Supposedly, The Roman Empire orchestrated the Jesus HOAX to control the masses ?

[Ghostown42]

im not the one who believes homo sex is natural. You are, hence you're the joke.

Natural: adj. "of or occurring in nature"

Homosexual sex occurs in nature. Thousands of animal species have been observed having homosexual sex. By definition, it's natural. It's been observed. It's documented. Its fact, not a belief. You on the other hand believe a man took 2 of every animal on earth and put them on a boat while a god killed every other living thing on earth when we have contradicting geological evidence that such event ever happened. I live in reality. You live in a fantasy world. Everyone outside of Clevetown recognizes you as a joke.

natural law and nature are not the same thing. please pick up a book. fratricide occurs in nature but we don't legalized siblings killing each other. Natural Law refers to universal principles of truth.

I know I have to often repeat myself for you, so here we go again. Just because something is natural (occurs in nature) doesn't mean it's a good or a bad thing.n there are several different definitions of the word natural, but yo cannot argue that I am incorrect when I say homosexuality is natural given the definition I use, which is a valid definition of the word "natural."

You never said anything about natural law earlier. You are moving the goal posts, as you usually do.

[Robceltsfan]

I'm OK with calling homosexuality "natural" so long as we're calling other illnesses of the mind natural.

And yes, I consider homosexuality an illness of the mind.

[Ghostown42]

I'm OK with calling homosexuality "natural" so long as we're calling other illnesses of the mind natural.

And yes, I consider homosexuality an illness of the mind.

Cool. I'm glad we can agree. I can see homosexuality as an illness of the mind as well.

[lettherebehouse]

Which is normal, because heterosexuality is natural.
:LG1:

Exactly. So if one is going to argue that babies being born is "natural", then it only seems fair that heterosexuality is natural. Amirite???

Heterosexuality is natural. That doesn't mean that it makes homosexuality unnatural. Is homosexuality common? Absolutely not. But it does occur in nature.

Aren't humans and the interaction we have with one another falling under the same macrocosmic umbrella as the polar penguins who are detached from human contamination? What is your definition of "nature"? An ant colony can create an underground metropolis for themselves with sophisticated compartmentalizing with self made draining systems similar to what humans have created as part of our infrastructure.

The world we as animals have created for ourselves whether an ant colony, a goat herd, beehive, or human beings, as a species to survive and adapt is our "nature" from an observational standpoint. By your definition as I assume it, anything human beings do regardless of how rare and unusual, can observantly be considered "natural".

[Ghostown42]

Exactly. So if one is going to argue that babies being born is "natural", then it only seems fair that heterosexuality is natural. Amirite???

Heterosexuality is natural. That doesn't mean that it makes homosexuality unnatural. Is homosexuality common? Absolutely not. But it does occur in nature.

Aren't humans and the interaction we have with one another falling under the same macrocosmic umbrella as the polar penguins who are detached from human contamination? What is your definition of "nature"? An ant colony can create an underground metropolis for themselves with sophisticated compartmentalizing with self made draining systems similar to what humans have created as part of our infrastructure.

The world we as animals have created for ourselves whether an ant colony, a goat herd, beehive, or human beings, as a species to survive and adapt is our "nature" from an observational standpoint. By your definition as I assume it, anything human beings do regardless of how rare and unusual, can observantly be considered "natural".

I'd define nature as: the physical form of all living things and products in the world as opposed to human inventions

[Shill Jackson]

im not the one who believes homo sex is natural. You are, hence you're the joke.

Natural: adj. "of or occurring in nature"

Homosexual sex occurs in nature. Thousands of animal species have been observed having homosexual sex. By definition, it's natural. It's been observed. It's documented. Its fact, not a belief. You on the other hand believe a man took 2 of every animal on earth and put them on a boat while a god killed every other living thing on earth when we have contradicting geological evidence that such event ever happened. I live in reality. You live in a fantasy world. Everyone outside of Clevetown recognizes you as a joke.

Suicide occurs in nature. Millions of humans have killed themselves. Is suicide "natural"?

Yes
because Disney told us so....
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[AtiliusRegulus]

I'd define nature as: the physical form of all living things and products in the world as opposed to human inventions

[AlaskaHawks]

Homosexuals oddly enough tend to develop a lisp as well.

[Kingcarl24]

Homosexuals oddly enough tend to develop a lisp as well.

Plus suddenly become good dressers and their hands get limp at the wrists.

[AlaskaHawks]

Homosexuals oddly enough tend to develop a lisp as well.

Plus suddenly become good dressers and their hands get limp at the wrists.

And lesbians voices deepen and they begin to dress like lumberjacks.

[Robceltsfan]

Bullshit guys.....they were born that way.

[Kingcarl24]

Homosexuals oddly enough tend to develop a lisp as well.

Plus suddenly become good dressers and their hands get limp at the wrists.

And lesbians voices deepen and they begin to dress like lumberjacks.

I find it more interesting that lesbians start dressing like boys to attract other lesbians. Doesn't that seem a little off?

[AlaskaHawks]

Plus suddenly become good dressers and their hands get limp at the wrists.

And lesbians voices deepen and they begin to dress like lumberjacks.

I find it more interesting that lesbians start dressing like boys to attract other lesbians. Doesn't that seem a little off?

Same with fags. They start acting like women to attract other men.

[Kingcarl24]

And lesbians voices deepen and they begin to dress like lumberjacks.

I find it more interesting that lesbians start dressing like boys to attract other lesbians. Doesn't that seem a little off?

Same with fags. They start acting like women to attract other men.

It's kind of like vegetarians that shape their tofu to look like meat. Why do that?

[AlaskaHawks]

I find it more interesting that lesbians start dressing like boys to attract other lesbians. Doesn't that seem a little off?

Same with fags. They start acting like women to attract other men.

It's kind of like vegetarians that shape their tofu to look like meat. Why do that?

I couldn't tell you. None of that makes any sense to me at all.

[Kingcarl24]

Same with fags. They start acting like women to attract other men.

It's kind of like vegetarians that shape their tofu to look like meat. Why do that?

I couldn't tell you. None of that makes any sense to me at all.

[AlaskaHawks]

Bullshit guys.....they were born that way.

I love that argument, of course. Those people who were "born gay" Condemn people who disagree with that opinion. Maybe they were "born homophobic"?

[AlaskaHawks]

It's kind of like vegetarians that shape their tofu to look like meat. Why do that?

I couldn't tell you. None of that makes any sense to me at all.

LOL that sounds disgusting.

[vcsgrizzfan]

Bullshit guys.....they were born that way.

I love that argument, of course. Those people who were "born gay" Condemn people who disagree with that opinion. Maybe they were "born homophobic"?

Do you honestly think it's a choice? I'm sorry, but unless I hear a convincing argument otherwise, I'm definitely in the camp that believes people are born wired to be hetero or homo. I am talking right out of my ass here, but I believe there has to be some type of genetic wonkiness that leads to it. I certainly don't believe it's a choice.

[AlaskaHawks]

Bullshit guys.....they were born that way.

I love that argument, of course. Those people who were "born gay" Condemn people who disagree with that opinion. Maybe they were "born homophobic"?

Do you honestly think it's a choice? I'm sorry, but unless I hear a convincing argument otherwise, I'm definitely in the camp that believes people are born wired to be hetero or homo. I am talking right out of my ass here, but I believe there has to be some type of genetic wonkiness that leads to it. I certainly don't believe it's a choice.

I do. I think it's a choice that stems from a mental illness.