Supposedly, The Roman Empire orchestrated the Jesus HOAX to control the masses ?

[Shill Jackson]

extremely ignorant statement.
Rome ignored the early christians because it thought that it was merely a sect of Judaism. While Nero first persecuted the church, systematic persecution didn't come until after the Roman Jewish war of A.70. The romans thought that by destroying the temple it would destroy both judaism and christianity. But guess what, only Judaism was rendered powerless, and Christians began to multiply. This was when systematic persecution began. It was Constantine who came in 306 A.D who made Christianity non persecutable, which eventually lead to it becoming the state religion.

After this, the old guard of Romans were dissastisfied and tried to return the empire back to its pagan roots under Constantine's son, Julian the Apostate. After this temporary reversion, Christianity became a permanent cornerstone.

In summary Dunkan's thesis is gahbaj and doesn't conform to the historical record.

In summary, Ati's 'facts' are handed down from the church and are not supported independently.

[AtiliusRegulus]

extremely ignorant statement.
Rome ignored the early christians because it thought that it was merely a sect of Judaism. While Nero first persecuted the church, systematic persecution didn't come until after the Roman Jewish war of A.70. The romans thought that by destroying the temple it would destroy both judaism and christianity. But guess what, only Judaism was rendered powerless, and Christians began to multiply. This was when systematic persecution began. It was Constantine who came in 306 A.D who made Christianity non persecutable, which eventually lead to it becoming the state religion.

After this, the old guard of Romans were dissastisfied and tried to return the empire back to its pagan roots under Constantine's son, Julian the Apostate. After this temporary reversion, Christianity became a permanent cornerstone.

In summary Dunkan's thesis is gahbaj and doesn't conform to the historical record.

In summary, Ati's 'facts' are handed down from the church and are not supported independently.

[Shill Jackson]

Christianity is a hodge -podge of other Pagan religions. If you tell a lie enough (in this case for thousands of years) it becomes believable. (A lie in the sense that it was just a consolidation of various other religions)

incorrect. Christian doctrine and the christian religion is systematic and non syncretistic.
1. Triune God. (All other religions have either a unitarian god, or a pantheon of gods)
2. Salvation by Grace through Faith. (salvation is not earned, it is given by God. All other religions demand that a person perform works of righteousness and other good deeds to be saved. A christian performs good works and works of righteousness in response to being saved)
3. Forensic substitutionary atonement for sins. (Sin must be dealt with. In Christian religion, sin is dismissed because the sinner is sorry, sin is dismissed because another person takes the punishment for said sins. In Christianity, the God-Man (Christ, who is fully God and fully Human, and without sin, took the punishment for His people. In other religion, the gods or god simply forgive sins because the sinner is sorry, and because the sinner does good deeds).
Again, Christianity is not a hodge podge, it is a systematic closed religion with no syncretism.

1. incorrect.
http://www.heraldmag.org/olb/Contents/d ... rinity.htm
2. gobbledy-gook
3. incorrect.
Every time we turn around, new examples of syncretism in christianity are found. It is chock full of it.
Now if you'll excuse me, I need to plan for my Saturnalia party....

[Smelters]

Common sense and rational thinking is basically all you need to decipher the myths of many religions.

Many people lack common sense and rational thinking (even and maybe especially educated people) and are easily swayed by fake history and propaganda.

That is why I asked the board about the Da Vinci Code.

You asked the board about the Da Vinci Code because many people are easily swayed by fake history and propaganda?

Yep. Just thought it would be a good topic of discussion and to gauge where people stand on certain religious principles.

[AtiliusRegulus]

Christianity is a hodge -podge of other Pagan religions. If you tell a lie enough (in this case for thousands of years) it becomes believable. (A lie in the sense that it was just a consolidation of various other religions)

incorrect. Christian doctrine and the christian religion is systematic and non syncretistic.
1. Triune God. (All other religions have either a unitarian god, or a pantheon of gods)
2. Salvation by Grace through Faith. (salvation is not earned, it is given by God. All other religions demand that a person perform works of righteousness and other good deeds to be saved. A christian performs good works and works of righteousness in response to being saved)
3. Forensic substitutionary atonement for sins. (Sin must be dealt with. In Christian religion, sin is dismissed because the sinner is sorry, sin is dismissed because another person takes the punishment for said sins. In Christianity, the God-Man (Christ, who is fully God and fully Human, and without sin, took the punishment for His people. In other religion, the gods or god simply forgive sins because the sinner is sorry, and because the sinner does good deeds).
Again, Christianity is not a hodge podge, it is a systematic closed religion with no syncretism.

1. incorrect.
http://www.heraldmag.org/olb/Contents/d ... rinity.htm
2. gobbledy-gook
3. incorrect.
Every time we turn around, new examples of syncretism in christianity are found. It is chock full of it.
Now if you'll excuse me, I need to plan for my Saturnalia party....

1. Garbage. That article obviously doesn't understand the trinity. It's confusing a tribunal and a triumvirate with a trinity. The Trinitarian formula is one substance with 3 subsistences. To take it further, the Father begets the Son(eternal generation of the Son), and the Holy Spirit proceeds from the Father and the Son. There is absolutely nothing like it in other religions. Please read Augustine's Die Trinitae.

2. Not gobbly gook, just the facts. Read Christine doctrine and Christian history.

3. You don't see examples of syncretism, you see independent trivial similarities in other religions which you stupidly assume was stolen and merged into Christianity. It's like saying that because a pyramid existed in Egypt before Central America that it necessitates that the Central Americans stole the concept from the Egyptians

[Smelters]

No. Really?!! There were people here before adam and eve? So in the beginning................?

[CleveTown™]

Christianity is a hodge -podge of other Pagan religions. If you tell a lie enough (in this case for thousands of years) it becomes believable. (A lie in the sense that it was just a consolidation of various other religions)

incorrect. Christian doctrine and the christian religion is systematic and non syncretistic.
1. Triune God. (All other religions have either a unitarian god, or a pantheon of gods)
2. Salvation by Grace through Faith. (salvation is not earned, it is given by God. All other religions demand that a person perform works of righteousness and other good deeds to be saved. A christian performs good works and works of righteousness in response to being saved)
3. Forensic substitutionary atonement for sins. (Sin must be dealt with. In Christian religion, sin is dismissed because the sinner is sorry, sin is dismissed because another person takes the punishment for said sins. In Christianity, the God-Man (Christ, who is fully God and fully Human, and without sin, took the punishment for His people. In other religion, the gods or god simply forgive sins because the sinner is sorry, and because the sinner does good deeds).

Again, Christianity is not a hodge podge, it is a systematic closed religion with no syncretism.

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[CleveTown™]

Christianity is a hodge -podge of other Pagan religions. If you tell a lie enough (in this case for thousands of years) it becomes believable. (A lie in the sense that it was just a consolidation of various other religions)

incorrect. Christian doctrine and the christian religion is systematic and non syncretistic.
1. Triune God. (All other religions have either a unitarian god, or a pantheon of gods)
2. Salvation by Grace through Faith. (salvation is not earned, it is given by God. All other religions demand that a person perform works of righteousness and other good deeds to be saved. A christian performs good works and works of righteousness in response to being saved)
3. Forensic substitutionary atonement for sins. (Sin must be dealt with. In Christian religion, sin is dismissed because the sinner is sorry, sin is dismissed because another person takes the punishment for said sins. In Christianity, the God-Man (Christ, who is fully God and fully Human, and without sin, took the punishment for His people. In other religion, the gods or god simply forgive sins because the sinner is sorry, and because the sinner does good deeds).

Again, Christianity is not a hodge podge, it is a systematic closed religion with no syncretism.

And how lovely it is to have a fall guy and hold no responsibility for your actions.

Our actions are what put Christ on the cross. We bear a huge responsibility for our actions and we still do today.

[CleveTown™]

incorrect. Christian doctrine and the christian religion is systematic and non syncretistic.
1. Triune God. (All other religions have either a unitarian god, or a pantheon of gods)
2. Salvation by Grace through Faith. (salvation is not earned, it is given by God. All other religions demand that a person perform works of righteousness and other good deeds to be saved. A christian performs good works and works of righteousness in response to being saved)
3. Forensic substitutionary atonement for sins. (Sin must be dealt with. In Christian religion, sin is dismissed because the sinner is sorry, sin is dismissed because another person takes the punishment for said sins. In Christianity, the God-Man (Christ, who is fully God and fully Human, and without sin, took the punishment for His people. In other religion, the gods or god simply forgive sins because the sinner is sorry, and because the sinner does good deeds).
Again, Christianity is not a hodge podge, it is a systematic closed religion with no syncretism.

1. incorrect.
http://www.heraldmag.org/olb/Contents/d ... rinity.htm
2. gobbledy-gook
3. incorrect.
Every time we turn around, new examples of syncretism in christianity are found. It is chock full of it.
Now if you'll excuse me, I need to plan for my Saturnalia party....

1. Garbage. That article obviously doesn't understand the trinity. It's confusing a tribunal and a triumvirate with a trinity. The Trinitarian formula is one substance with 3 subsistences. To take it further, the Father begets the Son(eternal generation of the Son), and the Holy Spirit proceeds from the Father and the Son. There is absolutely nothing like it in other religions. Please read Augustine's Die Trinitae.

2. Not gobbly gook, just the facts. Read Christine doctrine and Christian history.

3. You don't see examples of syncretism, you see independent trivial similarities in other religions which you stupidly assume was stolen and merged into Christianity. It's like saying that because a pyramid existed in Egypt before Central America that it necessitates that the Central Americans stole the concept from the Egyptians

Ati its like the Christian version of Ben Shapiro how he spits the cold hard facts.

[CleveTown™]

No. Really?!! There were people here before adam and eve? So in the beginning................?

No there weren't.

[Shill Jackson]

incorrect. Christian doctrine and the christian religion is systematic and non syncretistic.
1. Triune God. (All other religions have either a unitarian god, or a pantheon of gods)
2. Salvation by Grace through Faith. (salvation is not earned, it is given by God. All other religions demand that a person perform works of righteousness and other good deeds to be saved. A christian performs good works and works of righteousness in response to being saved)
3. Forensic substitutionary atonement for sins. (Sin must be dealt with. In Christian religion, sin is dismissed because the sinner is sorry, sin is dismissed because another person takes the punishment for said sins. In Christianity, the God-Man (Christ, who is fully God and fully Human, and without sin, took the punishment for His people. In other religion, the gods or god simply forgive sins because the sinner is sorry, and because the sinner does good deeds).
Again, Christianity is not a hodge podge, it is a systematic closed religion with no syncretism.

1. incorrect.
http://www.heraldmag.org/olb/Contents/d ... rinity.htm
2. gobbledy-gook
3. incorrect.
Every time we turn around, new examples of syncretism in christianity are found. It is chock full of it.
Now if you'll excuse me, I need to plan for my Saturnalia party....

1. Garbage. That article obviously doesn't understand the trinity. It's confusing a tribunal and a triumvirate with a trinity. The Trinitarian formula is one substance with 3 subsistences. To take it further, the Father begets the Son(eternal generation of the Son), and the Holy Spirit proceeds from the Father and the Son. There is absolutely nothing like it in other religions. Please read Augustine's Die Trinitae.

2. Not gobbly gook, just the facts. Read Christine doctrine and Christian history.

3. You don't see examples of syncretism, you see independent trivial similarities in other religions which you stupidly assume was stolen and merged into Christianity. It's like saying that because a pyramid existed in Egypt before Central America that it necessitates that the Central Americans stole the concept from the Egyptians

1. The article understands it quite well. To put it another way - polytheism.
2. As I said, gobbledy-gook.
3. No you see exact copies, from religions developed in adjacent countries. Your analogy is completely myopic and false.

[elmouse03]

Was it that Julius Caesar dude who dun it?

[AtiliusRegulus]

1. incorrect.
http://www.heraldmag.org/olb/Contents/d ... rinity.htm
2. gobbledy-gook
3. incorrect.
Every time we turn around, new examples of syncretism in christianity are found. It is chock full of it.
Now if you'll excuse me, I need to plan for my Saturnalia party....

1. Garbage. That article obviously doesn't understand the trinity. It's confusing a tribunal and a triumvirate with a trinity. The Trinitarian formula is one substance with 3 subsistences. To take it further, the Father begets the Son(eternal generation of the Son), and the Holy Spirit proceeds from the Father and the Son. There is absolutely nothing like it in other religions. Please read Augustine's Die Trinitae.

2. Not gobbly gook, just the facts. Read Christine doctrine and Christian history.

3. You don't see examples of syncretism, you see independent trivial similarities in other religions which you stupidly assume was stolen and merged into Christianity. It's like saying that because a pyramid existed in Egypt before Central America that it necessitates that the Central Americans stole the concept from the Egyptians

1. The article understands it quite well. To put it another way - polytheism.
2. As I said, gobbledy-gook.
3. No you see exact copies, from religions developed in adjacent countries. Your analogy is completely myopic and false.

1. The article understands nothing. "The Lord said to my Lord, sit down at my right hand until I make Thine enemies your footstool". Go find out what that means in reference to the Hebrew shama.

2. Not gobbly gook.

3. See my original response. It doesn't take hard work to find trivial similarities and to then posit a theory of theft. It takes a lazy anti Christian mind with a bone of contention. Again no syncretism. Christianity is a closed religion that is highly systematic.

[Shill Jackson]

1. Garbage. That article obviously doesn't understand the trinity. It's confusing a tribunal and a triumvirate with a trinity. The Trinitarian formula is one substance with 3 subsistences. To take it further, the Father begets the Son(eternal generation of the Son), and the Holy Spirit proceeds from the Father and the Son. There is absolutely nothing like it in other religions. Please read Augustine's Die Trinitae.

2. Not gobbly gook, just the facts. Read Christine doctrine and Christian history.

3. You don't see examples of syncretism, you see independent trivial similarities in other religions which you stupidly assume was stolen and merged into Christianity. It's like saying that because a pyramid existed in Egypt before Central America that it necessitates that the Central Americans stole the concept from the Egyptians

1. The article understands it quite well. To put it another way - polytheism.
2. As I said, gobbledy-gook.
3. No you see exact copies, from religions developed in adjacent countries. Your analogy is completely myopic and false.

1. The article understands nothing. "The Lord said to my Lord, sit down at my right hand until I make Thine enemies your footstool". Go find out what that means in reference to the Hebrew shama.

2. Not gobbly gook.

3. See my original response. It doesn't take hard work to find trivial similarities and to then posit a theory of theft. It takes a lazy anti Christian mind with a bone of contention. Again no syncretism. Christianity is a closed religion that is highly systematic.

It takes no lazy mind, and certainly no "bone of contention." Just a simple examination of the evidence.

http://www.iawwai.com/ZoroastrianProphecies.html

[Smelters]

No. Really?!! There were people here before adam and eve? So in the beginning................?

No there weren't.

Ha. It's over before it gets started.

Aren't there even bones that have been found that pre date adam and eve?

[Smelters]

No there weren't.

Ha. It's over before it gets started.

Aren't there even bones that have been found that pre date adam and eve?

There was no Adam and Eve. The bible made them up. The bible says Adam and Eve existed 5000 years ago. Born during the first week of the existence of the universe just 5000 years ago. We have tons of human bones that date back 100,000 years. Dinosaur bones that are 50 million years old. The planet is 4-5 billion years old. The universe is 12-15 billion years old. Those are facts. Thus, the bible is bullshit. Most black people believe the bible is true tho

White slaves masters had that preached down to black people for years so it became engrained into them.

[AtiliusRegulus]

1. The article understands it quite well. To put it another way - polytheism.
2. As I said, gobbledy-gook.
3. No you see exact copies, from religions developed in adjacent countries. Your analogy is completely myopic and false.

1. The article understands nothing. "The Lord said to my Lord, sit down at my right hand until I make Thine enemies your footstool". Go find out what that means in reference to the Hebrew shama.

2. Not gobbly gook.

3. See my original response. It doesn't take hard work to find trivial similarities and to then posit a theory of theft. It takes a lazy anti Christian mind with a bone of contention. Again no syncretism. Christianity is a closed religion that is highly systematic.

It takes no lazy mind, and certainly no "bone of contention." Just a simple examination of the evidence.

http://www.iawwai.com/ZoroastrianProphecies.html

Again Christianity came directly from a Jewish context in relation to the prophecies contained therein which were all made before the Babylonian captivity.

[Ali Natural]

Ati doesn't really believe in the supernatural stories in the bible, does he?

[AtiliusRegulus]

Ati doesn't really believe in the supernatural stories in the bible, does he?

i don't believe in the supernatural I believe in the supranatural. There is a visible tactile realm and there is an invisible non tactile realm. Ps. I even believe that a man was swallowed by a fish, lived in its stomach for 3 days, was vomitted out and lived to tell about it.

[Ghostown42]

Ati doesn't really believe in the supernatural stories in the bible, does he?

i don't believe in the supernatural I believe in the supranatural. There is a visible tactile realm and there is an invisible non tactile realm. Ps. I even believe that a man was swallowed by a fish, lived in its stomach for 3 days, was vomitted out and lived to tell about it.

Which is why you are a joke on this board.