Wizards future contention with Wall as cornerstone?
Wizards future contention with Wall as cornerstone?
As you all know, Wall received a 5 year maximum extension this year and has certainly improved his play this season. Yet, the Wizards are hovering around .500 in a ridiculously weak eastern conference.
So it begs the question...Will the Wizards ever be serious contenders with John Wall as its cornerstone?
So it begs the question...Will the Wizards ever be serious contenders with John Wall as its cornerstone?
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Re: Wizards future contention with Wall as cornerstone?
Shoot-first point guards never win anything, so no, the Wizards will never be a contender with him.
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Re: Wizards future contention with Wall as cornerstone?
He only shot 29 times last night. But he did take the blame in the loss last night, saying he shot too much and needs to pass more.Havlicekstealsit wrote:Shoot-first point guards never win anything, so no, the Wizards will never be a contender with him.
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Re: Wizards future contention with Wall as cornerstone?
And considering they were 10-31 this time last year, I'd say that the progress is evolving, just not there yet. If Wall cuts down on shots & turnovers and if the Wizards can actually find a core of 3-4 guys to stick around for awhile, they'll get better.
Re: Wizards future contention with Wall as cornerstone?
Havlicekstealsit wrote:Shoot-first point guards never win anything, so no, the Wizards will never be a contender with him.
I don't think they'll never win anything (in reference to shoot-first PGs) but having a shooting dominant PG (who is likely your best player) does not historically have a good track record. So do you think the Thunder won't win a ship with Westbrook?
Re: Wizards future contention with Wall as cornerstone?
SOrry but i don't see the Wizards contending regardless of how wall plays. Well i could see them contending with the magic of draft picks though.
Re: Wizards future contention with Wall as cornerstone?
SO you think they will win then?Buckets wrote:Havlicekstealsit wrote:Shoot-first point guards never win anything, so no, the Wizards will never be a contender with him.
I don't think they'll never win anything (in reference to shoot-first PGs) but having a shooting dominant PG (who is likely your best player) does not historically have a good track record. So do you think the Thunder won't win a ship with Westbrook?
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Re: Wizards future contention with Wall as cornerstone?
Buckets wrote:Havlicekstealsit wrote:Shoot-first point guards never win anything, so no, the Wizards will never be a contender with him.
I don't think they'll never win anything (in reference to shoot-first PGs) but having a shooting dominant PG (who is likely your best player) does not historically have a good track record. So do you think the Thunder won't win a ship with Westbrook?
Is he their primary offensive weapon?
Re: Wizards future contention with Wall as cornerstone?
Havlicekstealsit wrote:Buckets wrote:Havlicekstealsit wrote:Shoot-first point guards never win anything, so no, the Wizards will never be a contender with him.
I don't think they'll never win anything (in reference to shoot-first PGs) but having a shooting dominant PG (who is likely your best player) does not historically have a good track record. So do you think the Thunder won't win a ship with Westbrook?
Is he their primary offensive weapon?
Thats not what you said, you said shoot first PGs never win anything. But I now get what you were trying to say.
Re: Wizards future contention with Wall as cornerstone?
deezna10 wrote:SO you think they will win then?Buckets wrote:Havlicekstealsit wrote:Shoot-first point guards never win anything, so no, the Wizards will never be a contender with him.
I don't think they'll never win anything (in reference to shoot-first PGs) but having a shooting dominant PG (who is likely your best player) does not historically have a good track record. So do you think the Thunder won't win a ship with Westbrook?
Depends how Beal turns out along with others on the team. I can't say with certainty one way or the other
Re: Wizards future contention with Wall as cornerstone?
He thinks so.Havlicekstealsit wrote:Buckets wrote:Havlicekstealsit wrote:Shoot-first point guards never win anything, so no, the Wizards will never be a contender with him.
I don't think they'll never win anything (in reference to shoot-first PGs) but having a shooting dominant PG (who is likely your best player) does not historically have a good track record. So do you think the Thunder won't win a ship with Westbrook?
Is he their primary offensive weapon?
Re: Wizards future contention with Wall as cornerstone?
Max wrote:He thinks so.Havlicekstealsit wrote:Buckets wrote:
I don't think they'll never win anything (in reference to shoot-first PGs) but having a shooting dominant PG (who is likely your best player) does not historically have a good track record. So do you think the Thunder won't win a ship with Westbrook?
Is he their primary offensive weapon?
What are you talking about? Havlicek never specified "shoot first pg's who are the leaders of their team" will never win. He just said shoot first pgs in general
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Re: Wizards future contention with Wall as cornerstone?
this. talent wins.deezna10 wrote:SOrry but i don't see the Wizards contending regardless of how wall plays. Well i could see them contending with the magic of draft picks though.
Wall is not winning with Bradley Beal, Trevor Ariza, Nenè Hilario and Marcin Gortat. That said making the playoffs and being a .500+ team is a statement of how valuable he is if you didn't see the value last year. At the end of the day if Wall wants to win he will have to seek FA in hopes of a championship. The Bulls have put a championship team around an inferior guard and they were good enough to win if they remained healthy, so I can assure you Wall is good enough but Washington is not the place.