2014 Anger General Geatest of All Time: #24 selection

[Y2K]

The results are in. Dwyane Wade was voted as the #23 Greatest Player of All Time.



Greatest players of All Time list:
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1. Michael Jordan

2. Bill Russell

3. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar

4. Ervin Magic Johnson

5. Wilt Chamberlain

6. Larry Bird

7. Tim Duncan

8. Kobe Bryant

9. Shaquille O'Neal

10. Hakeem Olajuwon

11. Lebron James

12. Oscar Robertson

13. Moses Malone

14. Jerry West

15. Julius Erving

16. George Mikan

17. Bob Pettit

18. Karl Malone

19. Kevin Garnett

20. Elgin Baylor

21. John Havlicek

22. Dirk Nowitzki

23. Dwyane Wade



Vote for your #24 player of all time posting the said player's name from the list of candidates available during that particular round.


David Robinson - 2

Isiah Thomas - 5

Patrick Ewing -

Scottie Pippen - 1

Allen Iverson -

Kevin McHale -

John Stockton -

Rick Barry - 1

Charles Barkley - 10

Bob Cousy -


TOTAL Votes: 19

[FPL]

Gotta go with the Admiral here.

[PhutureDynasty]

Sir Charles Barkley.

[vcsgrizzfan]

I will go Barkley as well. In part, I think he deserves it, and in part to thwart the pro Zeke delusionals.

[PhutureDynasty]

I will go Barkley as well. In part, I think he deserves it, and in part to thwart the pro Zeke delusionals.

Poser.

[elmouse03]

I will go Barkley as well. In part, I think he deserves it, and in part to thwart the pro Zeke delusionals.

Well I guess I am still in delusion as I will stick with Isiah.

[Da Stars.]

Booooooooo/ Fuck wade. Booooooooooooooo....... I bet Zeke again.

[PhutureDynasty]

I voted for Zeke in an earlier thread before changing my vote but he deserves a spot in the top 30 IMO.

[americaninfidel]

Tempted to go with DRob, but I've been on the Isiah bandwagon for too long.

Zeke is my vote.

[vcsgrizzfan]

I will go Barkley as well. In part, I think he deserves it, and in part to thwart the pro Zeke delusionals.

Well I guess I am still in delusion as I will stick with Isiah.

I'm not lying here. I started shitting on Zeke in this poll when he was first brought up.

Sometimes your eyes play tricks on you and you see what you want to see. I know I've been guilty. Sometimes what you see is actually pretty accurate.

I've mentioned in several of these threads I've thought Zeke's role was overrated on those Pistons teams.

Tonight, I actually went to basketball-reference.com and checked the stats on those old Pistons teams.

The numbers are very surprising. Zeke generally has the WORST differential in offensive and defensive rating on the Pistons for many of those teams, including the playoffs. It confirms what my eyes saw... those were just damn good teams and his role on them is overstated.

[PhutureDynasty]

I will go Barkley as well. In part, I think he deserves it, and in part to thwart the pro Zeke delusionals.

Well I guess I am still in delusion as I will stick with Isiah.

I'm not lying here. I started shitting on Zeke in this poll when he was first brought up.

Sometimes your eyes play tricks on you and you see what you want to see. I know I've been guilty. Sometimes what you see is actually pretty accurate.

I've mentioned in several of these threads I've thought Zeke's role was overrated on those Pistons teams.

Tonight, I actually went to basketball-reference.com and checked the stats on those old Pistons teams.

The numbers are very surprising. Zeke generally has the WORST differential in offensive and defensive rating on the Pistons for many of those teams, including the playoffs. It confirms what my eyes saw... those were just damn good teams and his role on them is overstated.

Interesting. Does he belong in the top 20 in your opinion?

[elmouse03]

I will go Barkley as well. In part, I think he deserves it, and in part to thwart the pro Zeke delusionals.

Well I guess I am still in delusion as I will stick with Isiah.

I'm not lying here. I started shitting on Zeke in this poll when he was first brought up.

Sometimes your eyes play tricks on you and you see what you want to see. I know I've been guilty. Sometimes what you see is actually pretty accurate.

I've mentioned in several of these threads I've thought Zeke's role was overrated on those Pistons teams.

Tonight, I actually went to basketball-reference.com and checked the stats on those old Pistons teams.

The numbers are very surprising. Zeke generally has the WORST differential in offensive and defensive rating on the Pistons for many of those teams, including the playoffs. It confirms what my eyes saw... those were just damn good teams and his role on them is overstated.

Well then we are obviously in a stand still as nothing you say will change my mind and nothing I say will change yours but in all I am still voting for Isiah.

[vcsgrizzfan]

Well I guess I am still in delusion as I will stick with Isiah.

I'm not lying here. I started shitting on Zeke in this poll when he was first brought up.

Sometimes your eyes play tricks on you and you see what you want to see. I know I've been guilty. Sometimes what you see is actually pretty accurate.

I've mentioned in several of these threads I've thought Zeke's role was overrated on those Pistons teams.

Tonight, I actually went to basketball-reference.com and checked the stats on those old Pistons teams.

The numbers are very surprising. Zeke generally has the WORST differential in offensive and defensive rating on the Pistons for many of those teams, including the playoffs. It confirms what my eyes saw... those were just damn good teams and his role on them is overstated.

Interesting. Does he belong in the top 20 in your opinion?

No, and I've been pretty adamant on that.

[Wishbone]

Barkley

Come on guys, it's Barkley.

I think some of you give too much credit for rings.

Barkley ran into the GOAT and had some injury issues, he's top 25 all time for certain.

Vote for Barkley, anything else would be uncivilized.

[Odogg]

Chuckster

[vcsgrizzfan]

Well I guess I am still in delusion as I will stick with Isiah.

I'm not lying here. I started shitting on Zeke in this poll when he was first brought up.

Sometimes your eyes play tricks on you and you see what you want to see. I know I've been guilty. Sometimes what you see is actually pretty accurate.

I've mentioned in several of these threads I've thought Zeke's role was overrated on those Pistons teams.

Tonight, I actually went to basketball-reference.com and checked the stats on those old Pistons teams.

The numbers are very surprising. Zeke generally has the WORST differential in offensive and defensive rating on the Pistons for many of those teams, including the playoffs. It confirms what my eyes saw... those were just damn good teams and his role on them is overstated.

Well then we are obviously in a stand still as nothing you say will change my mind and nothing I say will change yours but in all I am still voting for Isiah.

Perhaps you should at least go to the site and check the numbers. Like I said, we often see and remember what we want to see and remember. The facts as I remember them judged Barkley and Drob a little too harshley, but they were actually very kind to Isiah. His advanced metrics are pretty awful relative to his teammates. I know its not the be all, but its hard to ignore how bad some of them are relative to his teammates and era to be ranked so high. It's a clink, clink, clunk...

[dwcmwa]

are you kidding me? Wade? another injustice.

PIPPEN!

[PhutureDynasty]

I'm not lying here. I started shitting on Zeke in this poll when he was first brought up.

Sometimes your eyes play tricks on you and you see what you want to see. I know I've been guilty. Sometimes what you see is actually pretty accurate.

I've mentioned in several of these threads I've thought Zeke's role was overrated on those Pistons teams.

Tonight, I actually went to basketball-reference.com and checked the stats on those old Pistons teams.

The numbers are very surprising. Zeke generally has the WORST differential in offensive and defensive rating on the Pistons for many of those teams, including the playoffs. It confirms what my eyes saw... those were just damn good teams and his role on them is overstated.

Interesting. Does he belong in the top 20 in your opinion?

No, and I've been pretty adamant on that.

Brainfart... I should have asked you top 30. While I do agree he wasn't as big a standout or star as Jordan on the Bulls, Magic on the Lakers, and Bird on the Celtics I do believe he deserves top 30 status for being the leader and star on a team that was 3x Eastern Conference Champions, 2x Finals Champions, and being 1x Finals MVP. Isiah is a tricky vote though.

[americaninfidel]

I'm not lying here. I started shitting on Zeke in this poll when he was first brought up.

Sometimes your eyes play tricks on you and you see what you want to see. I know I've been guilty. Sometimes what you see is actually pretty accurate.

I've mentioned in several of these threads I've thought Zeke's role was overrated on those Pistons teams.

Tonight, I actually went to basketball-reference.com and checked the stats on those old Pistons teams.

The numbers are very surprising. Zeke generally has the WORST differential in offensive and defensive rating on the Pistons for many of those teams, including the playoffs. It confirms what my eyes saw... those were just damn good teams and his role on them is overstated.

Well then we are obviously in a stand still as nothing you say will change my mind and nothing I say will change yours but in all I am still voting for Isiah.

Perhaps you should at least go to the site and check the numbers. Like I said, we often see and remember what we want to see and remember. The facts as I remember them judged Barkley and Drob a little too harshley, but they were actually very kind to Isiah. His advanced metrics are pretty awful relative to his teammates. I know its not the be all, but its hard to ignore how bad some of them are relative to his teammates and era to be ranked so high. It's a clink, clink, clunk...

I get what you're saying grizz, but I think you are likewise discounting the intangibles. The problem is, there's (by definition) no measure for the intangibles.
Isiah was the leader of those Pistons championship teams, and his grit and guts played a large role in those rings.
If push came to shove, in the Finals, I'd rather have Zeke than Barkley, though I know you disagree.

[876Stephen]

Isaiah