Titan18 wrote:Lebrons "down year" is better than most of Kobes career. Kobe arguably had only one year better than Lebrons current year.
Lebrons 26.7 PER would be the 2nd best in Kobes career
Lebrons .589 TS% would be the best in Kobe's career
Lebrons 119 offensive rating would be the best in Kobes career
Lebrons 104 defensive rating would be 5th best in Kobe's career
i don't care about advanced stat padding analytics
when i see a guy drop more 50 point games in one season (2006-07) than the other guy has in his entire career..(2003-04 to 2016-17) i see beyond a rebound extra or assist extra per game from dominating the ball 99% of the game or scoring an extra 4% out of 100 shots because he drives the ball more
fuck outa here
watch the games
when kobe dominates the ball like lebron he does shit nobody other than wilt chamberlain could even think of doing
So you just care about taking 27 shots to score 34 points.
Titan18 wrote:Lebrons "down year" is better than most of Kobes career. Kobe arguably had only one year better than Lebrons current year.
Lebrons 26.7 PER would be the 2nd best in Kobes career
Lebrons .589 TS% would be the best in Kobe's career
Lebrons 119 offensive rating would be the best in Kobes career
Lebrons 104 defensive rating would be 5th best in Kobe's career
i don't care about advanced stat padding analytics
when i see a guy drop more 50 point games in one season (2006-07) than the other guy has in his entire career..(2003-04 to 2016-17) i see beyond a rebound extra or assist extra per game from dominating the ball 99% of the game or scoring an extra 4% out of 100 shots because he drives the ball more
fuck outa here
watch the games
when kobe dominates the ball like lebron he does shit nobody other than wilt chamberlain could even think of doing
So you just care about taking 27 shots to score 34 points.
Got it
one season he averaged 27.2 shots per game and averaged 35.4ppg
i don't care about advanced stat padding analytics
when i see a guy drop more 50 point games in one season (2006-07) than the other guy has in his entire career..(2003-04 to 2016-17) i see beyond a rebound extra or assist extra per game from dominating the ball 99% of the game or scoring an extra 4% out of 100 shots because he drives the ball more
fuck outa here
watch the games
when kobe dominates the ball like lebron he does shit nobody other than wilt chamberlain could even think of doing
So you just care about taking 27 shots to score 34 points.
Got it
one season he averaged 27.2 shots per game and averaged 35.4ppg
yes
your point?
that year he had 50%efg% and 55.9 true shooting %
55.9 TS% would be good for 12th best in lebrons career
one season he averaged 27.2 shots per game and averaged 35.4ppg
yes
your point?
that year he had 50%efg% and 55.9 true shooting %
55.9 TS% would be good for 12th best in lebrons career
lebrons pretty good at picking his spots and knowing his limitations
i agree
but can lebron drop 35ppg while taking the type of shots kobe takes and be as efficient?
can lebron drop 50+ 10 times in one season ?
no... hes limited... so just being more efficient doesn't mean the anything really
lebrons good at averages because of his usage. but hes only really "gone off" a few times in his career. maybe 10 times?
kobes done superhuman shit 150 times+
kobes on that wilt/jordan tier of offense
lebron isnt
Lebron is part of the Magic/Robertson tier which means he can score a good amount of points as well as get his teammates involved at the same time. Not to mention rebound well and play solid defense. Just a total package player.
Titan18 wrote:
55.9 TS% would be good for 12th best in lebrons career
lebrons pretty good at picking his spots and knowing his limitations
i agree
but can lebron drop 35ppg while taking the type of shots kobe takes and be as efficient?
can lebron drop 50+ 10 times in one season ?
no... hes limited... so just being more efficient doesn't mean the anything really
lebrons good at averages because of his usage. but hes only really "gone off" a few times in his career. maybe 10 times?
kobes done superhuman shit 150 times+
kobes on that wilt/jordan tier of offense
lebron isnt
Lebron is part of the Magic/Robertson tier which means he can score a good amount of points as well as get his teammates involved at the same time. Not to mention rebound well and play solid defense. Just a total package player.
agreed... except that magic got everything in the flow while lebron forces allot of his numbers
Titan18 wrote:
55.9 TS% would be good for 12th best in lebrons career
lebrons pretty good at picking his spots and knowing his limitations
i agree
but can lebron drop 35ppg while taking the type of shots kobe takes and be as efficient?
can lebron drop 50+ 10 times in one season ?
no... hes limited... so just being more efficient doesn't mean the anything really
lebrons good at averages because of his usage. but hes only really "gone off" a few times in his career. maybe 10 times?
kobes done superhuman shit 150 times+
kobes on that wilt/jordan tier of offense
lebron isnt
So taking dumbass shots should be a plus vs a guy who plays smart basketball and takes efficient shots that helps his team?
the fact that kobe can take "dumbass shots" and have the same points per shot as jordan means kobe made the nba look like a video game to him and hes the only guy to have that iverson type green light and make it successful
like i said before. its not a bad thing that kobes able to take and make any shot from anywhere over anyone
it might be 45%... but anyone else under those same conditions would be in the 20-30's percentile
lebrons pretty good at picking his spots and knowing his limitations
i agree
but can lebron drop 35ppg while taking the type of shots kobe takes and be as efficient?
can lebron drop 50+ 10 times in one season ?
no... hes limited... so just being more efficient doesn't mean the anything really
lebrons good at averages because of his usage. but hes only really "gone off" a few times in his career. maybe 10 times?
kobes done superhuman shit 150 times+
kobes on that wilt/jordan tier of offense
lebron isnt
So taking dumbass shots should be a plus vs a guy who plays smart basketball and takes efficient shots that helps his team?
the fact that kobe can take "dumbass shots" and have the same points per shot as jordan means kobe made the nba look like a video game to him and hes the only guy to have that iverson type green light and make it successful
like i said before. its not a bad thing that kobes able to take and make any shot from anywhere over anyone
it might be 45%... but anyone else under those same conditions would be in the 20-30's percentile
Titan18 wrote:
So taking dumbass shots should be a plus vs a guy who plays smart basketball and takes efficient shots that helps his team?
the fact that kobe can take "dumbass shots" and have the same points per shot as jordan means kobe made the nba look like a video game to him and hes the only guy to have that iverson type green light and make it successful
like i said before. its not a bad thing that kobes able to take and make any shot from anywhere over anyone
it might be 45%... but anyone else under those same conditions would be in the 20-30's percentile
Jordan pps - 1.32
Kobe's - 1.28
They aren't the same. Wrong again
its
1.284 vs 1.316
and thats 131 points on 100 shots vs 128 points
big deal... shooting 50% to kobes 45% meant 3 more points after 5 games if kobe and mike both took 20 shots a game
and the last i looked at it was before kobes last 3 achilles seasons .. it used to be even closer than that
the fact that kobe can take "dumbass shots" and have the same points per shot as jordan means kobe made the nba look like a video game to him and hes the only guy to have that iverson type green light and make it successful
like i said before. its not a bad thing that kobes able to take and make any shot from anywhere over anyone
it might be 45%... but anyone else under those same conditions would be in the 20-30's percentile
Jordan pps - 1.32
Kobe's - 1.28
They aren't the same. Wrong again
its
1.284 vs 1.316
and thats 131 points on 100 shots vs 128 points
big deal... shooting 50% to kobes 45% meant 3 more points after 5 games if kobe and mike both took 20 shots a game
and the last i looked at it was before kobes last 3 achilles seasons .. it used to be even closer than that
Still less. Kobe comes up short again, just like he did all those years to Lebron.
I haven't watched a ton of games this year, so not sure who would be in my top 5.
Westbrook and Harden are putting up monster box score numbers, but we'll need to see what seeds they end up as.
Regarding Kawhi, I've heard some reports that he hasn't been as much of a beast defensively since he's expending extra effort as the number one option (and not part of an offense-by-committee approach this year) offensively.
It'll be interesting to see how many wins the Clippers end up with, because Paul or Griffin might get some consideration. I think KD will get a real look too. I haven't watched a lot of NBA games in general this year as I noted, but I have watched a lot of the Warriors. KD has used his length masterfully defensively, and he could reach his potential as an all-time terrific all-around player.
