vcsgrizzfan wrote:
I'd like to see that. Get it done GarPax!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Like I said. Depends on the price but with the cap going up overpaying will be a way of life in the NBA now-a-days
I just think he's at best an average player. I don't think he's a number 3 guy. He was at best number 4 on the Warriors and a weak link, with arguably one or two bench guys actually being more valuable than him. He's just not very good.
You're not gonna be saying that when he goes to the Grizzlies for the money that Conley wants.
elmouse03 wrote:
Like I said. Depends on the price but with the cap going up overpaying will be a way of life in the NBA now-a-days
I just think he's at best an average player. I don't think he's a number 3 guy. He was at best number 4 on the Warriors and a weak link, with arguably one or two bench guys actually being more valuable than him. He's just not very good.
You're not gonna be saying that when he goes to the Grizzlies for the money that Conley wants.
vcsgrizzfan wrote:
I'd like to see that. Get it done GarPax!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Like I said. Depends on the price but with the cap going up overpaying will be a way of life in the NBA now-a-days
I just think he's at best an average player. I don't think he's a number 3 guy. He was at best number 4 on the Warriors and a weak link, with arguably one or two bench guys actually being more valuable than him. He's just not very good.
To be fair, is there some recency bias there?
Remember, he was playing decent ball in the NBA Finals before playing purely putrid basketball.
For example, he had a 6 - 10 fg and 7 - 11 fg game. And went 4 - 5 on threes in Game 4 along with 8 rebounds. More importantly, I think teams are interested in his versatility defensively. He's not all-world, but he's capable of switching at 3 or even 4 or even 5 positions depending on matchups. I see/hear the same alarm bells as you do. We've seen other guys like him in the past.
But in today's crazy world of money, money, money flowing everywhere... I can see why somebody will give him $20+M.
elmouse03 wrote:
Like I said. Depends on the price but with the cap going up overpaying will be a way of life in the NBA now-a-days
I just think he's at best an average player. I don't think he's a number 3 guy. He was at best number 4 on the Warriors and a weak link, with arguably one or two bench guys actually being more valuable than him. He's just not very good.
To be fair, is there some recency bias there?
Remember, he was playing decent ball in the NBA Finals before playing purely putrid basketball.
For example, he had a 6 - 10 fg and 7 - 11 fg game. And went 4 - 5 on threes in Game 4 along with 8 rebounds. More importantly, I think teams are interested in his versatility defensively. He's not all-world, but he's capable of switching at 3 or even 4 or even 5 positions depending on matchups. I see/hear the same alarm bells as you do. We've seen other guys like him in the past.
But in today's crazy world of money, money, money flowing everywhere... I can see why somebody will give him $20+M.
I don't think so. I am actually looking at the body of work for the year when he should have been motivated as hell in a contract year. He reminds me a bit of a guy like Jeff Green, in the sense that you think he should be more than he is, but he just isn't.
vcsgrizzfan wrote:
I just think he's at best an average player. I don't think he's a number 3 guy. He was at best number 4 on the Warriors and a weak link, with arguably one or two bench guys actually being more valuable than him. He's just not very good.
To be fair, is there some recency bias there?
Remember, he was playing decent ball in the NBA Finals before playing purely putrid basketball.
For example, he had a 6 - 10 fg and 7 - 11 fg game. And went 4 - 5 on threes in Game 4 along with 8 rebounds. More importantly, I think teams are interested in his versatility defensively. He's not all-world, but he's capable of switching at 3 or even 4 or even 5 positions depending on matchups. I see/hear the same alarm bells as you do. We've seen other guys like him in the past.
But in today's crazy world of money, money, money flowing everywhere... I can see why somebody will give him $20+M.
I don't think so. I am actually looking at the body of work for the year when he should have been motivated as hell in a contract year. He reminds me a bit of a guy like Jeff Green, in the sense that you think he should be more than he is, but he just isn't.
I don't disagree with the Jeff Green angle.
I'm just saying that with all this money, it's not going to cripple a franchise like the 76ers to overspend for him.
[Note: My prediction is that he ends up back in GS for a bit less than the max. I'm thinking a D. Green type contract where both sides give a bit to keep the band together.]
