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I don't know where you're getting your information from but he has said repeatedly in his campaign that he is pro-life. You're a racist based on your avatar and an idiot if you think he "endorses" ANY abortion.
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Kobeunderbite wrote:I don't know where you're getting your information from but he has said repeatedly in his campaign that he is pro-life. You're a racist based on your avatar and an idiot if you think he "endorses" ANY abortion.
did you not see the source of his comment?
what further info do you need to show how wrong you are?

and you selected my avatar (I have the post where you did that ) so we all can see just how racist you truly are
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Johnnyblazzed wrote:
y2ktors wrote:
Johnnyblazzed wrote:

I would love to read your source material where the pharmaceutical companies have prevented importing prescription drugs from foreign countries. You sure the restriction has nothing to do with government agencies?
Oh no, that's the FDA. The insane price gouging is the issue with our pharmaceutical companies. Within that lies a connection(s) as to why reform on this issue has been so sluggish over the years.
Allowing foreign medication to compete with domestic pharmaceutical companies will lower the cost. I also believe a review of patent laws is needed. I understand most are motivated by money and the cost to create these pills is massive. If you are unable to get an ROI on your R&D, you fold up your business. With this, you want to retain some rights to your work, but there is a better way. Perhaps the patent is good for 5 years for example, and then other drug companies can manufacture the pill and you get 30% royalty for the next 10 years, and the royalty decreases after that.
Great, since it is so simple, we should see huge and immediate results within the first month or two. No doubt Trump will easily unite democrats and Republicans alike and everything will be hunky dory in no time.
Considering the mess that Obama was left, and the damn near 8 years of continual sabotage (of their own admission) from the GOP, Obama had the country back on track. ACA wasn't and isn't perfect, but it isn't the fiasco the GOP had hoped and tried for.
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sportswise1 wrote:
Kobeunderbite wrote:I don't know where you're getting your information from but he has said repeatedly in his campaign that he is pro-life. You're a racist based on your avatar and an idiot if you think he "endorses" ANY abortion.
did you not see the source of his comment?
what further info do you need to show how wrong you are?

and you selected my avatar (I have the post where you did that ) so we all can see just how racist you truly are

No I didn't, how could I select YOUR avatar? Prove it, racist!
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Trump USED to be pro choice. He is now pro life because it fits his agenda.
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Kobeunderbite wrote:
sportswise1 wrote:
Kobeunderbite wrote:I don't know where you're getting your information from but he has said repeatedly in his campaign that he is pro-life. You're a racist based on your avatar and an idiot if you think he "endorses" ANY abortion.
did you not see the source of his comment?
what further info do you need to show how wrong you are?

and you selected my avatar (I have the post where you did that ) so we all can see just how racist you truly are

No I didn't, how could I select YOUR avatar? Prove it, racist!
here is proof --you piece of trash
Sportswise1 lost a lifetime avatar bet with me and I will now be controlling his avatar for the rest of his life. I'm going to pick the first one but any time someone wants him to wear a certain avatar, just PM me and I'll have it changed.
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sportswise1 wrote:
Kobeunderbite wrote:
sportswise1 wrote:
did you not see the source of his comment?
what further info do you need to show how wrong you are?

and you selected my avatar (I have the post where you did that ) so we all can see just how racist you truly are

No I didn't, how could I select YOUR avatar? Prove it, racist!
here is proof --you piece of trash
Sportswise1 lost a lifetime avatar bet with me and I will now be controlling his avatar for the rest of his life. I'm going to pick the first one but any time someone wants him to wear a certain avatar, just PM me and I'll have it changed.

You wrote that, not me you filthy racist. Where is the link??
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Kobeunderbite wrote:
sportswise1 wrote:
Kobeunderbite wrote:

No I didn't, how could I select YOUR avatar? Prove it, racist!
here is proof --you piece of trash
Sportswise1 lost a lifetime avatar bet with me and I will now be controlling his avatar for the rest of his life. I'm going to pick the first one but any time someone wants him to wear a certain avatar, just PM me and I'll have it changed.

You wrote that, not me you filthy racist. Where is the link??
a link to a post on thread?
you're even dumber than we all thought -you filthy piece of shit

you love that ass Chump so you must also love may avatar- what a complete loser you are
you indicted yourself and didn't even realize it
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sportswise1 wrote:
Kobeunderbite wrote:
sportswise1 wrote:
here is proof --you piece of trash
Sportswise1 lost a lifetime avatar bet with me and I will now be controlling his avatar for the rest of his life. I'm going to pick the first one but any time someone wants him to wear a certain avatar, just PM me and I'll have it changed.

You wrote that, not me you filthy racist. Where is the link??
a link to a post on thread?
you're even dumber than we all thought -you filthy piece of shit

you love that ass Chump so you must also love may avatar- what a complete loser you are
you indicted yourself and didn't even realize it

Link to the thread right now or you're lying. You filthy racist!!
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Kobeunderbite wrote:
sportswise1 wrote:
Kobeunderbite wrote:

You wrote that, not me you filthy racist. Where is the link??
a link to a post on thread?
you're even dumber than we all thought -you filthy piece of shit

you love that ass Chump so you must also love may avatar- what a complete loser you are
you indicted yourself and didn't even realize it

Link to the thread right now or you're lying. You filthy racist!!
you're the fucking racist and there are no links to threads you dumb terd
i posted your comment and now you're exposed for the slime you are
and you support trump -who is a known racist and bigot
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rileymartin wrote:
Johnnyblazzed wrote:
y2ktors wrote: Oh no, that's the FDA. The insane price gouging is the issue with our pharmaceutical companies. Within that lies a connection(s) as to why reform on this issue has been so sluggish over the years.
Allowing foreign medication to compete with domestic pharmaceutical companies will lower the cost. I also believe a review of patent laws is needed. I understand most are motivated by money and the cost to create these pills is massive. If you are unable to get an ROI on your R&D, you fold up your business. With this, you want to retain some rights to your work, but there is a better way. Perhaps the patent is good for 5 years for example, and then other drug companies can manufacture the pill and you get 30% royalty for the next 10 years, and the royalty decreases after that.
Great, since it is so simple, we should see huge and immediate results within the first month or two. No doubt Trump will easily unite democrats and Republicans alike and everything will be hunky dory in no time.
Considering the mess that Obama was left, and the damn near 8 years of continual sabotage (of their own admission) from the GOP, Obama had the country back on track. ACA wasn't and isn't perfect, but it isn't the fiasco the GOP had hoped and tried for.
It saddens me you lack comprehension in both the written word and politics. You have no idea how free markets work or pharmaceutical companies.

Are you aware the Dems controlled the House for Obama's first 4 years? Are you aware the economic issues go back to before Bush, and some would say back to 1913? Did you know the tech bubble burst under Clinton, which prompted the Fed to lower interest rates? Did you know Clinton pushed Freddie and Fannie to increase lending opportunities to minorities and low income home buyers, which created the sub prime markets and increase financial risk to lenders? Did you know our economy is built on a house of cards driven by consumption and debt? Did you know Fed is strongly looking into introducing negative interest rates - something never done before in US history and is not a sign of "a country back on track"? These issues are not "right" vs "left", this is Keynesian economics and crony capitalism promoted by both parties, subjecting citizens to be slaves to money and subjects to government. You've overdosed on the blue pill Riley.
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Johnnyblazzed wrote:
rileymartin wrote:
Johnnyblazzed wrote:
Allowing foreign medication to compete with domestic pharmaceutical companies will lower the cost. I also believe a review of patent laws is needed. I understand most are motivated by money and the cost to create these pills is massive. If you are unable to get an ROI on your R&D, you fold up your business. With this, you want to retain some rights to your work, but there is a better way. Perhaps the patent is good for 5 years for example, and then other drug companies can manufacture the pill and you get 30% royalty for the next 10 years, and the royalty decreases after that.
Great, since it is so simple, we should see huge and immediate results within the first month or two. No doubt Trump will easily unite democrats and Republicans alike and everything will be hunky dory in no time.
Considering the mess that Obama was left, and the damn near 8 years of continual sabotage (of their own admission) from the GOP, Obama had the country back on track. ACA wasn't and isn't perfect, but it isn't the fiasco the GOP had hoped and tried for.
It saddens me you lack comprehension in both the written word and politics. You have no idea how free markets work or pharmaceutical companies.

Are you aware the Dems controlled the House for Obama's first 4 years? Are you aware the economic issues go back to before Bush, and some would say back to 1913? Did you know the tech bubble burst under Clinton, which prompted the Fed to lower interest rates? Did you know Clinton pushed Freddie and Fannie to increase lending opportunities to minorities and low income home buyers, which created the sub prime markets and increase financial risk to lenders? Did you know our economy is built on a house of cards driven by consumption and debt? Did you know Fed is strongly looking into introducing negative interest rates - something never done before in US history and is not a sign of "a country back on track"? These issues are not "right" vs "left", this is Keynesian economics and crony capitalism promoted by both parties, subjecting citizens to be slaves to money and subjects to government. You've overdosed on the blue pill Riley.
Quite the contrary. Unlike you, I try to view things with an open mind. You tow the party line. I got news for you, In the 7 elections I have been privileged to participate in in my lifetime, I voted Republican 4 of those times. I would like to do that again this time because I certainly don't want to see Hillary in office, but Trump is gonna make it a landslide for her.
Healthcare in this country, while not perfect is better, unless you think only people who are rich should have coverage. NOTHING is going to be a perfect system, and we have heard about free market healthcare for decades. Whether it will work or not is irrelavent. The fact of the matter is, ACA should play out.
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rileymartin wrote:
Johnnyblazzed wrote:
rileymartin wrote:
Great, since it is so simple, we should see huge and immediate results within the first month or two. No doubt Trump will easily unite democrats and Republicans alike and everything will be hunky dory in no time.
Considering the mess that Obama was left, and the damn near 8 years of continual sabotage (of their own admission) from the GOP, Obama had the country back on track. ACA wasn't and isn't perfect, but it isn't the fiasco the GOP had hoped and tried for.
It saddens me you lack comprehension in both the written word and politics. You have no idea how free markets work or pharmaceutical companies.

Are you aware the Dems controlled the House for Obama's first 4 years? Are you aware the economic issues go back to before Bush, and some would say back to 1913? Did you know the tech bubble burst under Clinton, which prompted the Fed to lower interest rates? Did you know Clinton pushed Freddie and Fannie to increase lending opportunities to minorities and low income home buyers, which created the sub prime markets and increase financial risk to lenders? Did you know our economy is built on a house of cards driven by consumption and debt? Did you know Fed is strongly looking into introducing negative interest rates - something never done before in US history and is not a sign of "a country back on track"? These issues are not "right" vs "left", this is Keynesian economics and crony capitalism promoted by both parties, subjecting citizens to be slaves to money and subjects to government. You've overdosed on the blue pill Riley.
Quite the contrary. Unlike you, I try to view things with an open mind. You tow the party line. I got news for you, In the 7 elections I have been privileged to participate in in my lifetime, I voted Republican 4 of those times. I would like to do that again this time because I certainly don't want to see Hillary in office, but Trump is gonna make it a landslide for her.
Healthcare in this country, while not perfect is better, unless you think only people who are rich should have coverage. NOTHING is going to be a perfect system, and we have heard about free market healthcare for decades. Whether it will work or not is irrelavent. The fact of the matter is, ACA should play out.
Again, you severely lack comprehension. Did you miss the part about it not being "right" vs "left" and both parties champion and promote the very things dragging this country down? You then write that I tow the party line?!? Bloody hell Riley, how obtuse and outright stupid can you be?

As for your drivel about free market healthcare and the ACA, do yourself a favor and learn about free markets. I'll start you off:

https://mises.org/search/site/free%20market" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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Johnnyblazzed wrote:
rileymartin wrote:
Johnnyblazzed wrote:
It saddens me you lack comprehension in both the written word and politics. You have no idea how free markets work or pharmaceutical companies.

Are you aware the Dems controlled the House for Obama's first 4 years? Are you aware the economic issues go back to before Bush, and some would say back to 1913? Did you know the tech bubble burst under Clinton, which prompted the Fed to lower interest rates? Did you know Clinton pushed Freddie and Fannie to increase lending opportunities to minorities and low income home buyers, which created the sub prime markets and increase financial risk to lenders? Did you know our economy is built on a house of cards driven by consumption and debt? Did you know Fed is strongly looking into introducing negative interest rates - something never done before in US history and is not a sign of "a country back on track"? These issues are not "right" vs "left", this is Keynesian economics and crony capitalism promoted by both parties, subjecting citizens to be slaves to money and subjects to government. You've overdosed on the blue pill Riley.
Quite the contrary. Unlike you, I try to view things with an open mind. You tow the party line. I got news for you, In the 7 elections I have been privileged to participate in in my lifetime, I voted Republican 4 of those times. I would like to do that again this time because I certainly don't want to see Hillary in office, but Trump is gonna make it a landslide for her.
Healthcare in this country, while not perfect is better, unless you think only people who are rich should have coverage. NOTHING is going to be a perfect system, and we have heard about free market healthcare for decades. Whether it will work or not is irrelavent. The fact of the matter is, ACA should play out.
Again, you severely lack comprehension. Did you miss the part about it not being "right" vs "left" and both parties champion and promote the very things dragging this country down? You then write that I tow the party line?!? Bloody hell Riley, how obtuse and outright stupid can you be?

As for your drivel about free market healthcare and the ACA, do yourself a favor and learn about free markets. I'll start you off:

https://mises.org/search/site/free%20market" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Please dude. Your typical conservatism "I don't like what my party did" response to throw up a smokescreen aren't fooling anyone kiddo. Your posts read like Rush Limbaugh transcripts. LOL, Now you are reduced to blaming Bush's shitty presidency to Woodrow Wilson. It is hard to take you serious. Yea we know, Obama is really Kenyan lol.
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rileymartin wrote:
Johnnyblazzed wrote:
rileymartin wrote:
Quite the contrary. Unlike you, I try to view things with an open mind. You tow the party line. I got news for you, In the 7 elections I have been privileged to participate in in my lifetime, I voted Republican 4 of those times. I would like to do that again this time because I certainly don't want to see Hillary in office, but Trump is gonna make it a landslide for her.
Healthcare in this country, while not perfect is better, unless you think only people who are rich should have coverage. NOTHING is going to be a perfect system, and we have heard about free market healthcare for decades. Whether it will work or not is irrelavent. The fact of the matter is, ACA should play out.
Again, you severely lack comprehension. Did you miss the part about it not being "right" vs "left" and both parties champion and promote the very things dragging this country down? You then write that I tow the party line?!? Bloody hell Riley, how obtuse and outright stupid can you be?

As for your drivel about free market healthcare and the ACA, do yourself a favor and learn about free markets. I'll start you off:

https://mises.org/search/site/free%20market" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Please dude. Your typical conservatism "I don't like what my party did" response to throw up a smokescreen aren't fooling anyone kiddo. Your posts read like Rush Limbaugh transcripts. LOL, Now you are reduced to blaming Bush's shitty presidency to Woodrow Wilson. It is hard to take you serious. Yea we know, Obama is really Kenyan lol.
PTSD brother? Or have you always this obtuse? Do you have any idea what happened in 1913? Here's your chance to back your above claims; prove to me the US is not using Keynesian economics. Prove to me we are not a consumer based economy.
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Johnnyblazzed wrote:
rileymartin wrote:
Johnnyblazzed wrote:
Again, you severely lack comprehension. Did you miss the part about it not being "right" vs "left" and both parties champion and promote the very things dragging this country down? You then write that I tow the party line?!? Bloody hell Riley, how obtuse and outright stupid can you be?

As for your drivel about free market healthcare and the ACA, do yourself a favor and learn about free markets. I'll start you off:

https://mises.org/search/site/free%20market" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Please dude. Your typical conservatism "I don't like what my party did" response to throw up a smokescreen aren't fooling anyone kiddo. Your posts read like Rush Limbaugh transcripts. LOL, Now you are reduced to blaming Bush's shitty presidency to Woodrow Wilson. It is hard to take you serious. Yea we know, Obama is really Kenyan lol.
PTSD brother? Or have you always this obtuse? Do you have any idea what happened in 1913? Here's your chance to back your above claims; prove to me the US is not using Keynesian economics. Prove to me we are not a consumer based economy.
Smokescreen, smokescreen, change subject, change subject!!!! LOL, it might be time to change that tin foil kiddo.
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Johnnyblazzed wrote:
rileymartin wrote:
Johnnyblazzed wrote:
Again, you severely lack comprehension. Did you miss the part about it not being "right" vs "left" and both parties champion and promote the very things dragging this country down? You then write that I tow the party line?!? Bloody hell Riley, how obtuse and outright stupid can you be?

As for your drivel about free market healthcare and the ACA, do yourself a favor and learn about free markets. I'll start you off:

https://mises.org/search/site/free%20market" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Please dude. Your typical conservatism "I don't like what my party did" response to throw up a smokescreen aren't fooling anyone kiddo. Your posts read like Rush Limbaugh transcripts. LOL, Now you are reduced to blaming Bush's shitty presidency to Woodrow Wilson. It is hard to take you serious. Yea we know, Obama is really Kenyan lol.
PTSD brother? Or have you always this obtuse? Do you have any idea what happened in 1913? Here's your chance to back your above claims; prove to me the US is not using Keynesian economics. Prove to me we are not a consumer based economy.
You keep spouting all of this " Keynesian economics", then you want to completey wipe out ACA. Switzerland has quite possibly the best healthcare in the world for its citizens, and ACA, given some time COULD be that for us.
But, of course, despite the evidence, you will tell us all how it won't work lol. You will give me all of your "evidence" of why free market healthcare will work, but then discount what the Swiss do lol. One of the natural progressions could very well be a "free market"
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rileymartin wrote:
Johnnyblazzed wrote:
rileymartin wrote:

Please dude. Your typical conservatism "I don't like what my party did" response to throw up a smokescreen aren't fooling anyone kiddo. Your posts read like Rush Limbaugh transcripts. LOL, Now you are reduced to blaming Bush's shitty presidency to Woodrow Wilson. It is hard to take you serious. Yea we know, Obama is really Kenyan lol.
PTSD brother? Or have you always this obtuse? Do you have any idea what happened in 1913? Here's your chance to back your above claims; prove to me the US is not using Keynesian economics. Prove to me we are not a consumer based economy.
Smokescreen, smokescreen, change subject, change subject!!!! LOL, it might be time to change that tin foil kiddo.

Cute. The subject has been Trump, his proposed policies and popularity. As Bush noted earlier, conservatives have felt betrayed. This feeling of betrayal has lead them to seek an alternative to the establishment. Conservatives have felt betrayed because Republicans in office have grown government, increased debt, and have not protected the middle class. Both parties have implemented policies and regulations making citizens slaves to money and subjects to DC. The people are pissed and hope Trump is their Savior. Your inability to follow this discussion and total lack of comprehension is born out of mental disorders or plain stupidity.

Your pathetic straw-man rants are noted, so don't bother responding. I've tapped into your little mind and taken care of that for you:

"Smokescreen, smokescreen! I'm Riley and I'm incapable of having a rational discussion and lack political smarts. Umm, you are a right winger, tea bagger; nar, nar. Tin foil hat, blah, blah, more incoherent babble."
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Trump is not a true conservative...he admitted himself that he is not an ideologue...he's a moderate and would govern as one...he doesn't care abt all the conservative issues as much as some fools think...they will learn this soon enough....the ONLY thing that has people in his pocket is his stance on immigrants...nothing else abt him is conservative.
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Johnnyblazzed wrote:
rileymartin wrote:
Johnnyblazzed wrote:
PTSD brother? Or have you always this obtuse? Do you have any idea what happened in 1913? Here's your chance to back your above claims; prove to me the US is not using Keynesian economics. Prove to me we are not a consumer based economy.
Smokescreen, smokescreen, change subject, change subject!!!! LOL, it might be time to change that tin foil kiddo.

Cute. The subject has been Trump, his proposed policies and popularity. As Bush noted earlier, conservatives have felt betrayed. This feeling of betrayal has lead them to seek an alternative to the establishment. Conservatives have felt betrayed because Republicans in office have grown government, increased debt, and have not protected the middle class. Both parties have implemented policies and regulations making citizens slaves to money and subjects to DC. The people are pissed and hope Trump is their Savior. Your inability to follow this discussion and total lack of comprehension is born out of mental disorders or plain stupidity.

Your pathetic straw-man rants are noted, so don't bother responding. I've tapped into your little mind and taken care of that for you:

"Smokescreen, smokescreen! I'm Riley and I'm incapable of having a rational discussion and lack political smarts. Umm, you are a right winger, tea bagger; nar, nar. Tin foil hat, blah, blah, more incoherent babble."
Right. Only you have all the answers. Damn that 1913...it ruined the country lol. Blazed for Pres!!!
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