How would you feel about Mitt Romney entering the 2016 race?

[Kingcarl24]

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He's giving a big speech today about the state of the Republican nominations. I'm pretty sure he's just going to rip into Trump the whole time. There are some speculating with how bad things are going right now, that Romney may enter the race in hopes of knocking off Trump.

I'm curious what you guys think of the move. I know how some of you will respond. I'm more curious what the rest of you think. As it stands now, if it comes down to Trump or Clinton, I may not vote. I really wouldn't see a point.

[rileymartin]

The GOP has made their bed, and now they are going to be forced to sleep in it.

[kobeunderbite]

As much as I like Mitt, he is a two time loser and he could be embarrassing himself here. He can't stop the Trump train at this point and neither can anyone else in the GOP.

[Havlicekstealsit]

The GOP has made their bed, and now they are going to be forced to sleep in it.

Pretty much this. The GOP has spent years creating this personality that is Trump and now they're butthurt this creature has emerged from the lagoon while smacking them around with ease. Sending yet another political loser to battle this creature will yield close to nothing.

[LeBronMonsterDunk]

It's interesting how terrified the GOP establishment is of Trump.

[rileymartin]

It's interesting how terrified the GOP establishment is of Trump.

They aren't exactly terrified of him, they are just coming to the realization that he has no shot against Hilary. If they thought he could beat her, they would be firmly behind him.

[Johnnyblazzed]

Havs has it spot on. The establishment created Trump. When it comes to conservative principals, the establishment has been talking the talk, but not walking the walk. The people are pissed and have had enough. Blow hard Trump comes in can blasts the establishment, speaks to issues important to the voters, and these people flock to him under the impression, "he understand, he gets it". It's the right message, but coming from the wrong guy. As Bush4ever said last week, hopefully this is a catalyst for the alt right.

[kobeunderbite]

The democratic establishment, progressivism, globalism and Obama played a greater hand in creating him than the GOP.

[Johnnyblazzed]

The democratic establishment, progressivism, globalism and Obama played a greater hand in creating him than the GOP.

Sure they contributed. However as the left shifted further left over the past 20 plus years, the establishment on the right shifted left as well. The Republican candidates since have been mostly those who talk the talk whilst campaigning, however once in office, were cucked by or accomplices of the left.

[kobeunderbite]

The democratic establishment, progressivism, globalism and Obama played a greater hand in creating him than the GOP.

Sure they contributed. However as the left shifted further left over the past 20 plus years, the establishment on the right shifted left as well. The Republican candidates since have been mostly those who talk the talk whilst campaigning, however once in office, were cucked by or accomplices of the left.

I don't disagree that both sides have contributed but the left moreso and by far.

[rileymartin]

The democratic establishment, progressivism, globalism and Obama played a greater hand in creating him than the GOP.

Very much disagree. And, in November when Hillary gets elected, you will realize this.

Trump is basically Frankensteins Monster. He was created by George Bush and his ilk.

[rileymartin]

The democratic establishment, progressivism, globalism and Obama played a greater hand in creating him than the GOP.

Sure they contributed. However as the left shifted further left over the past 20 plus years, the establishment on the right shifted left as well. The Republican candidates since have been mostly those who talk the talk whilst campaigning, however once in office, were cucked by or accomplices of the left.

I don't disagree that both sides have contributed but the left moreso and by far.

Only if you are speaking within the GOP. America did not create Trump...Republicans did.

[Bush4Ever]

The democratic establishment, progressivism, globalism and Obama played a greater hand in creating him than the GOP.

Very much disagree. And, in November when Hillary gets elected, you will realize this.

Clinton winning wouldn't be a sign that the Left had zero role in creating Trump.

It's perfectly possible that the Left created Trump, but simply found more votes for Clinton than the "Right" did for Trump.

[Note: That said, I actually think the blame falls much more strongly on the side of cuckservatives than progressives. It's one thing to be honestly and directly opposed, it's another to be outright betrayed. Trump feeds largely off of the feelings of *betrayal* more so than *anti-progressive* beliefs/platforms (heck, the guy is even somewhat supportive of many of them!)]

[TheSaboteur]

Havs has it spot on. The establishment created Trump. When it comes to conservative principals, the establishment has been talking the talk, but not walking the walk. The people are pissed and have had enough. Blow hard Trump comes in can blasts the establishment, speaks to issues important to the voters, and these people flock to him under the impression, "he understand, he gets it". It's the right message, but coming from the wrong guy. As Bush4ever said last week, hopefully this is a catalyst for the alt right.

The right message? Damn.

[Johnnyblazzed]

Havs has it spot on. The establishment created Trump. When it comes to conservative principals, the establishment has been talking the talk, but not walking the walk. The people are pissed and have had enough. Blow hard Trump comes in can blasts the establishment, speaks to issues important to the voters, and these people flock to him under the impression, "he understand, he gets it". It's the right message, but coming from the wrong guy. As Bush4ever said last week, hopefully this is a catalyst for the alt right.

The right message? Damn.

The anti-establishment message, yes.

[rileymartin]

The democratic establishment, progressivism, globalism and Obama played a greater hand in creating him than the GOP.

Very much disagree. And, in November when Hillary gets elected, you will realize this.

Clinton winning wouldn't be a sign that the Left had zero role in creating Trump.

It's perfectly possible that the Left created Trump, but simply found more votes for Clinton than the "Right" did for Trump.

[Note: That said, I actually think the blame falls much more strongly on the side of cuckservatives than progressives. It's one thing to be honestly and directly opposed, it's another to be outright betrayed. Trump feeds largely off of the feelings of *betrayal* more so than *anti-progressive* beliefs/platforms (heck, the guy is even somewhat supportive of many of them!)]

We agree. I think the turmoil within the GOP created Trump. The left may have motivated them, but that is what always motivates them. Undies tried to cite other factors OUTSIDE of the GOP for creating Trump. That is my contention.

[TheSaboteur]

Havs has it spot on. The establishment created Trump. When it comes to conservative principals, the establishment has been talking the talk, but not walking the walk. The people are pissed and have had enough. Blow hard Trump comes in can blasts the establishment, speaks to issues important to the voters, and these people flock to him under the impression, "he understand, he gets it". It's the right message, but coming from the wrong guy. As Bush4ever said last week, hopefully this is a catalyst for the alt right.

The right message? Damn.

The anti-establishment message, yes.

Ok, that makes more sense.

[Carpediem77]

Trump is not an ideologue or a true conservative...if he gets the nomination he will essentially move the Conservative party more to the center...this is part of why the ultra right wingers are upset...he won't let them influence him to do their bidding...he won't go to bat for all their ideological desires...that will actually be a good thing.

[Da Stars.]

Trump is not an ideologue or a true conservative...if he gets the nomination he will essentially move the Conservative party more to the center...this is part of why the ultra right wingers are upset...he won't let them influence him to do their bidding...he won't go to bat for all their ideological desires...that will actually be a good thing.

More to the center. What an odd idea. Hope so.

[vcsgrizzfan]

That ship has sailed.