sportswise1 wrote:thedangerouskitchen wrote:sportswise1 wrote:The MVP is far more than how valuable you are just to your own team
You need far better stats than Noah has and, while he's great defensively,he won't win DPY either .
There is no universally agreed on definition for MVP. IMO "stats" are what All NBA selections are for, much more so than most Valuable player anyway (which should lean more on the success of the team, and how good that team would be without said player, given his overall impact in every facet of the game, not just stats).
Sadly, nowadays awards are more about popularity than merit (which explains all of Kobe's 1st Team Defense selections, or why Lebron is considered a DPOY candidate). The NBA needs to hype its product... so slurping a big name star is better for rating$ than awarding players who are more deserving, but not as popular.
The defensive awards are made by the coaches and GM's --far from a popularity award. They have zero reason to vote for popular players.
The MVP award is mostly about OVERALL STATS and does include value to your team -also defense and how that player impacts his team's ability to win games --
those parameters have been consistent for the last 10-15 years.
No player has won the MVP in the last 25 years that has come from a team lower than the #2 seed into the playoffs (one exception-Jordan1 year)
and of course -there are always going to be disagreements as to the rightful winner
The media votes for DPOY... and even though coaches vote for All Defense, Phil Jackson himself said many of Kobe's First Team selections were based on
popularity more so than merit (or do you really believe he was 1 of the 2 best Defensive Guards in the NBA 9 times???)
Come on...
As for MVP, the media looks at "certain" stats more than others (usually face-value numbers like PPG), then they look at the record of the team, then they assume that the player with the best stats is most Valuable. All I'm saying is that face-value stats don't always equal most valuable.
For instance, is a 20-PPG scorer more "valuable" than a 10-PPG scorer if the former also allows his opponent to score 20 points, while the latter holds his man to 5 points? Who is more Valuable: Player A who averages 10 Assists per game playing on the best shooting team in the league OR Player B, who averages 6 Assists a game playing on the worst shooting team? What if Player A averages 12 rebounds a game but only 2 on the Offensive end (leading to 3 extra second-chance points scored for his team)... is he more Valuable than the guy who averages 6 Rebounds but 4 on the Offensive end (leading to 7 extra second-chance points)?
I guarantee you the writers don't look at these intangibles when voting for MVP... I guarantee 99 out of 100 will vote for the guy averaging 20 / 12 / 10 when (in the examples I provided above) the guy averaging 10 / 6 / 6 is just as valuable if not more so.
