lettherebehouse wrote:Kobe at his "peak" averaged 43 god damn points over the course of a month (13 games) just to keep them afloat for the Western Conference 8 seed. 2 months after that to climb into that #7 spot, he closed out the season with arguably one of the worst rosters known to man (Smush-Kwame-Walton-Odom) with 5 straight crucial wins (winning 6 of the final 8 games) to backdoor their way into a postseason match up with #2 team in the West Phoenix. In that stretch, he dropped scoring outputs of 35-43-50-31-38-51-42-43 like it was nothing. And I'm supposed to think Steph "right now" in his last 13 games at 31/6/5 is playing better than anybody's ever played?
DaFuqOuttaHere
28.5 FGAs over that span....39.6 MPG.....3.6 asts/game. Not as impressive as averaging 32/5/6 on just 20 FGAs in just 34 MPG.
You're talking efficiency, I'm talking output. I'm talking about how many times the ball goes through the bottom of the net within a 48 minute span of a basketball contest. OUTPUT, which is where Kobe in that stretch with 2 broken fingers dominated on a level Curry can only pray about. If you wanna talk efficiency, I got a GE tankless water heater in my wash room I'll sell you for a nickle homeboy.
There isn't a perfect correlation between "uniqueness" of a stat line and "quality" of a stat line.
A guy putting up 2/2/12 on 10 percent shooting would have a stat line completely unique for a Finals, but most would recognize it as being significantly worse than a textbook 20/10/5/50 percent shooting stat line.
If you look at the average game score, which sort of gets at overall value, you get:
lettherebehouse wrote:Kobe at his "peak" averaged 43 god damn points over the course of a month (13 games) just to keep them afloat for the Western Conference 8 seed. 2 months after that to climb into that #7 spot, he closed out the season with arguably one of the worst rosters known to man (Smush-Kwame-Walton-Odom) with 5 straight crucial wins (winning 6 of the final 8 games) to backdoor their way into a postseason match up with #2 team in the West Phoenix. In that stretch, he dropped scoring outputs of 35-43-50-31-38-51-42-43 like it was nothing. And I'm supposed to think Steph "right now" in his last 13 games at 31/6/5 is playing better than anybody's ever played?
DaFuqOuttaHere
28.5 FGAs over that span....39.6 MPG.....3.6 asts/game. Not as impressive as averaging 32/5/6 on just 20 FGAs in just 34 MPG.
You're talking efficiency, I'm talking output. I'm talking about how many times the ball goes through the bottom of the net within a 48 minute span of a basketball contest. OUTPUT, which is where Kobe in that stretch with 2 broken fingers dominated on a level Curry can only pray about. If you wanna talk efficiency, I got a GE tankless water heater in my wash room I'll sell you for a nickle homeboy.
DaFuqOuttaHea wit that pettiness
So you think output trumps efficiency? Also i could see that if it was 42 ppg to like 18-20 ppg.
There isn't a perfect correlation between "uniqueness" of a stat line and "quality" of a stat line.
A guy putting up 2/2/12 on 10 percent shooting would have a stat line completely unique for a Finals, but most would recognize it as being significantly worse than a textbook 20/10/5/50 percent shooting stat line.
If you look at the average game score, which sort of gets at overall value, you get:
lettherebehouse wrote:Kobe at his "peak" averaged 43 god damn points over the course of a month (13 games) just to keep them afloat for the Western Conference 8 seed. 2 months after that to climb into that #7 spot, he closed out the season with arguably one of the worst rosters known to man (Smush-Kwame-Walton-Odom) with 5 straight crucial wins (winning 6 of the final 8 games) to backdoor their way into a postseason match up with #2 team in the West Phoenix. In that stretch, he dropped scoring outputs of 35-43-50-31-38-51-42-43 like it was nothing. And I'm supposed to think Steph "right now" in his last 13 games at 31/6/5 is playing better than anybody's ever played?
DaFuqOuttaHere
28.5 FGAs over that span....39.6 MPG.....3.6 asts/game. Not as impressive as averaging 32/5/6 on just 20 FGAs in just 34 MPG.
You're talking efficiency, I'm talking output. I'm talking about how many times the ball goes through the bottom of the net within a 48 minute span of a basketball contest. OUTPUT, which is where Kobe in that stretch with 2 broken fingers dominated on a level Curry can only pray about. If you wanna talk efficiency, I got a GE tankless water heater in my wash room I'll sell you for a nickle homeboy.
DaFuqOuttaHea wit that pettiness
OUTPUT....as in some other players on the Warriors took those 9 attempts that Curry isn't taking, and made some baskets (some from passes from Curry).
You can call it what you want House. Perhaps if Kobe played as well as Curry in his first 34 minutes he wouldn't need to keep chucking for an additional 5 minutes to get "some" wins. Perhaps if Kobe made more of his shots he wouldn't have to shoot 9 more times to get "some" wins.
Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are dumber than that.
Robceltsfan wrote:
Again....I'm trying to use context and logic.
No, you are latching onto one piece of context, to the near exclusion of everything else, and the magnitudes of the effects you are analyzing.
What you are doing is like me (with a 30 pound weight vest on) racing the 200 against Usain Bolt, losing by 15 seconds, and attributing the loss to the fact that I had a weight vest on and he didn't.
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Robceltsfan wrote:
Again....I'm trying to use context and logic.
No, you are latching onto one piece of context, to the near exclusion of everything else, and the magnitudes of the effects you are analyzing.
What you are doing is like me (with a 30 pound weight vest on) racing the 200 against Usain Bolt, losing by 10 seconds, and attributing the loss to the fact that I had a weight vest on and he didn't.
Terrible analogy...
Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are dumber than that.
28.5 FGAs over that span....39.6 MPG.....3.6 asts/game. Not as impressive as averaging 32/5/6 on just 20 FGAs in just 34 MPG.
You're talking efficiency, I'm talking output. I'm talking about how many times the ball goes through the bottom of the net within a 48 minute span of a basketball contest. OUTPUT, which is where Kobe in that stretch with 2 broken fingers dominated on a level Curry can only pray about. If you wanna talk efficiency, I got a GE tankless water heater in my wash room I'll sell you for a nickle homeboy.
DaFuqOuttaHea wit that pettiness
OUTPUT....as in some other players on the Warriors took those 9 attempts that Curry isn't taking, and made some baskets (some from passes from Curry).
You can call it what you want House. Perhaps if Kobe played as well as Curry in his first 34 minutes he wouldn't need to keep chucking for an additional 5 minutes to get "some" wins. Perhaps if Kobe made more of his shots he wouldn't have to shoot 9 more times to get "some" wins.
Pass it to Klay Thompson/Harrison Barnes, or to Devean George/Devin Green?
You're talking efficiency, I'm talking output. I'm talking about how many times the ball goes through the bottom of the net within a 48 minute span of a basketball contest. OUTPUT, which is where Kobe in that stretch with 2 broken fingers dominated on a level Curry can only pray about. If you wanna talk efficiency, I got a GE tankless water heater in my wash room I'll sell you for a nickle homeboy.
DaFuqOuttaHea wit that pettiness
OUTPUT....as in some other players on the Warriors took those 9 attempts that Curry isn't taking, and made some baskets (some from passes from Curry).
You can call it what you want House. Perhaps if Kobe played as well as Curry in his first 34 minutes he wouldn't need to keep chucking for an additional 5 minutes to get "some" wins. Perhaps if Kobe made more of his shots he wouldn't have to shoot 9 more times to get "some" wins.
Pass it to Klay Thompson/Harrison Barnes, or to Devean George/Devin Green?
You wouldn't know who they were if not for Curry.
Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are dumber than that.
OUTPUT....as in some other players on the Warriors took those 9 attempts that Curry isn't taking, and made some baskets (some from passes from Curry).
You can call it what you want House. Perhaps if Kobe played as well as Curry in his first 34 minutes he wouldn't need to keep chucking for an additional 5 minutes to get "some" wins. Perhaps if Kobe made more of his shots he wouldn't have to shoot 9 more times to get "some" wins.
Pass it to Klay Thompson/Harrison Barnes, or to Devean George/Devin Green?
You wouldn't know who they were if not for Curry.
Speak for yourself *****, I know Klay.
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Idiotic thread. Curry is weak defensively. Not an good all-round player. Hard to compare player from different eras. Having said that, Wilt and/or Kareem will have better overall careers in the end. Curry is not a dominant player like Wilt was back in the day.
BrotherCharles wrote:Idiotic thread. Curry is weak defensively. Not an good all-round player. Hard to compare player from different eras. Having said that, Wilt and/or Kareem will have better overall careers in the end. Curry is not a dominant player like Wilt was back in the day.
Curry is every bit as dominant, offensively, as Wilt Chamberlain was.
Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are dumber than that.
BrotherCharles wrote:Idiotic thread. Curry is weak defensively. Not an good all-round player. Hard to compare player from different eras. Having said that, Wilt and/or Kareem will have better overall careers in the end. Curry is not a dominant player like Wilt was back in the day.
For Curry being so "weak defensively"... he sure doesn't seem to be hurting his teams much at that end of the court.
Last year, they were the top-ranked defensive team. And it wasn't really close. The year before they were the 4th best. This year, the 6th.
