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y2ktors wrote:After flip flopping back and forth in my decision, I decided to go with Dennis Johnson, a guy whose conventional numbers do not him justice. The level of impact on winning that he brought to his teams in 3 different roles was just too much for me to pass on at this point.
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y2ktors wrote:After flip flopping back and forth in my decision, I decided to go with Dennis Johnson, a guy whose conventional numbers do not him justice. The level of impact on winning that he brought to his teams in 3 different roles was just too much for me to pass on at this point.
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I'm not sure how to say this tactfully, but Steph Curry is getting way too much love. Don't get me wrong, I like Curry; but if he were (God forbid) to have a career-ending injury, he'd never even sniff this list. I think he's getting the benefit of being a current champ. Tony Parker is significantly more accomplished, but he's got zero votes this round.
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americaninfidel wrote:I'm not sure how to say this tactfully, but Steph Curry is getting way too much love. Don't get me wrong, I like Curry; but if he were (God forbid) to have a career-ending injury, he'd never even sniff this list. I think he's getting the benefit of being a current champ. Tony Parker is significantly more accomplished, but he's got zero votes this round.
No he's not. Parker is not in Steph's area code in impact on the game.
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vcsgrizzfan wrote:
americaninfidel wrote:I'm not sure how to say this tactfully, but Steph Curry is getting way too much love. Don't get me wrong, I like Curry; but if he were (God forbid) to have a career-ending injury, he'd never even sniff this list. I think he's getting the benefit of being a current champ. Tony Parker is significantly more accomplished, but he's got zero votes this round.
No he's not. Parker is not in Steph's area code in impact on the game.
Have to agree with Grizz. Parker has more rings (currently) than Curry but in terms of the better individual player? Curry by a good margin.
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Why is Rose laughed at as an option?

Youngest MVP EVER, and he's better than Curry all-time right now.

Sure Curry has a Title, but he didn't win FMVP and Rose played with inferior teammates in 2011 compared to Curry's cast in 2014-15.
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Rodman and Worthy as nominees.
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americaninfidel wrote:I'm not sure how to say this tactfully, but Steph Curry is getting way too much love. Don't get me wrong, I like Curry; but if he were (God forbid) to have a career-ending injury, he'd never even sniff this list. I think he's getting the benefit of being a current champ. Tony Parker is significantly more accomplished, but he's got zero votes this round.
Parker vs. Curry on a career list is a worthy debate for tenure reasons, but we are talking about a guy who won a regular season MVP, ring as the best player of a team, while being arguably the best shooter in NBA history, while obtaining a higher peak compared to peers (3rd in PER, MVP vs. 8th in PER, 5th in MVP).

Skill for skill, Curry's shooting is a monster bonus for any team to have, and it's an advantage that can't be countered by any advantage Parker might have over him.
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dwcmwa wrote:Why is Rose laughed at as an option?

Youngest MVP EVER, and he's better than Curry all-time right now.

Sure Curry has a Title, but he didn't win FMVP and Rose played with inferior teammates in 2011 compared to Curry's cast in 2014-15.

Please, explain to me exactly how Rose's career is in ANY way better than Curry's thus far. Other than "games missed" I honestly can't find one single statistic, conventional or advanced, that Rose has the advantage in. Not one (unless you're going to spout off about Rose's 0.4 blocks per game being better than Curry's 0.2).

Curry is a VASTLY better shooter in every way imaginable.
Curry averages more assists.
Curry averages more rebounds.
Curry averages twice as many steals.
Curry is +8 on offensive/defensive rating....Rose is EVEN (LMAO).
Curry has superior PER.
Curry has higher WS and WS/48.
Curry has higher OBPM, DBPM and VORP.

Curry has the advantage in every single one of those categories in the playoffs as well.


Oh......and Curry has a ring.....something Rose hasn't done despite playing with absolute stacked squads for most of his career.


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There isn't one single piece of evidence you can offer to make any sane person even ponder the idea of Rose > Curry.
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Infidel is not saying that Parker is the better player. He said that he's more accomplished, which he is.
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