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Odogg wrote:Does this mean Kyle Korver is going be get nominated soon?
Not ahead of Kwame. :damnyou:
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What about Dumars?
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Dennis Johnson.
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elmouse03 wrote:
Odogg wrote:Does this mean Kyle Korver is going be get nominated soon?
Not ahead of Kwame. :damnyou:
Fair enough.
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wailuaFC wrote:
Odogg wrote:Let's see, Ray Allen had a couple standout scoring years on average teams, followed by a 3rd dog ring on the Cs, followed by a bench role player ring on the cHeat.

Great 3 point shooter, sure, but not much else. Why is he on the main list again?
Come on brotha, you have to be a little more unbiased. The only above average trait worthy brought was high volume efficient scoring, which may or may not have been a product of the best offense and best distributor the league has ever seen but that's another discussion, and Ray Allen is better then him at that with not only more ppg, ppg per 100 possessions, and a higher ts%, but he also has more all star selections, more MVP win shares, constantly was in the top 10 for OBPM and ortg (worthy never was), and has that whole claim to being the second best 3 point shooter ever thing going for him. I'd love to hear an argument for worthy, but there isn't one
Ray had a nice playoffs in 2001 and 2005, I will give him that. His playoff stats on the Celtics were unimpressive.

Worthy was the better playoff performer and better defensive player. Have you ever seen Worthy play besides youtube?
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Next set of nominees:

Dennis Rodman
Artis Gilmore
Walt Frazier
Dave Cowens
Adrian Dantley
Derrick Rose
David Thompson
Chris Mullin
Tracy McGrady
Vince Carter
Joe Dumars
Bob Lanier
Sidney Moncrief
Dikembe Mutombo
Bernard King
Chris Webber
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dwcmwa wrote:Next set of nominees:

Dennis Rodman
Artis Gilmore
Walt Frazier
Dave Cowens
Adrian Dantley
Derrick Rose
David Thompson
Chris Mullin
Tracy McGrady
Vince Carter
Joe Dumars
Bob Lanier
Sidney Moncrief
Dikembe Mutombo
Bernard King
Chris Webber
Well that is a very long list, and if we're going to entertain it then I'll say that Ginobili belongs ahead of many if not most of them.
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americaninfidel wrote:
dwcmwa wrote:Next set of nominees:

Dennis Rodman
Artis Gilmore
Walt Frazier
Dave Cowens
Adrian Dantley
Derrick Rose
David Thompson
Chris Mullin
Tracy McGrady
Vince Carter
Joe Dumars
Bob Lanier
Sidney Moncrief
Dikembe Mutombo
Bernard King
Chris Webber
Well that is a very long list, and if we're going to entertain it then I'll say that Ginobili belongs ahead of many if not most of them.
I don't see Ginobili quite yet, his teammate Tony Parker is even ahead of him and could be coming up soon but Manu's lack of NBA hardware, besides 6th man and titles, while playing 3rd option all his career hurts his case for a spot among the above.
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Obviously some others I didn't mention could be in contention.

Obviously Worthy and McAdoo are ones that are in the mix.
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Odogg wrote:Let's see, Ray Allen had a couple standout scoring years on average teams, followed by a 3rd dog ring on the Cs, followed by a bench role player ring on the cHeat.

Great 3 point shooter, sure, but not much else. Why is he on the main list again?
Come on brotha, you have to be a little more unbiased. The only above average trait worthy brought was high volume efficient scoring, which may or may not have been a product of the best offense and best distributor the league has ever seen but that's another discussion, and Ray Allen is better then him at that with not only more ppg, ppg per 100 possessions, and a higher ts%, but he also has more all star selections, more MVP win shares, constantly was in the top 10 for OBPM and ortg (worthy never was), and has that whole claim to being the second best 3 point shooter ever thing going for him. I'd love to hear an argument for worthy, but there isn't one
Ray had a nice playoffs in 2001 and 2005, I will give him that. His playoff stats on the Celtics were unimpressive.

Worthy was the better playoff performer and better defensive player. Have you ever seen Worthy play besides youtube?
once again your only argument is playoff stats. Make an argument for him based on his careers, not just the playoffs which accounted for 1/10 of it
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wailuaFC wrote:
Odogg wrote:
wailuaFC wrote: Come on brotha, you have to be a little more unbiased. The only above average trait worthy brought was high volume efficient scoring, which may or may not have been a product of the best offense and best distributor the league has ever seen but that's another discussion, and Ray Allen is better then him at that with not only more ppg, ppg per 100 possessions, and a higher ts%, but he also has more all star selections, more MVP win shares, constantly was in the top 10 for OBPM and ortg (worthy never was), and has that whole claim to being the second best 3 point shooter ever thing going for him. I'd love to hear an argument for worthy, but there isn't one
Ray had a nice playoffs in 2001 and 2005, I will give him that. His playoff stats on the Celtics were unimpressive.

Worthy was the better playoff performer and better defensive player. Have you ever seen Worthy play besides youtube?
once again your only argument is playoff stats. Make an argument for him based on his careers, not just the playoffs which accounted for 1/10 of it
I don't see a single true advantage that Worthy has over Ray Allen other than a FMVP as a second fiddle, playoff scoring and more championships. Neither is reflective of who the better player was overall. Those are based around team success and we know which player benefitted most from their Circumstances.
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My choice is Alonzo mourning. Just couldn't convince myself that his overwhelming advantage defensively over these other candidates was not enough to drop him down for only being a good, not elite offensive player.
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I almost went zo this round, probably next
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Yo Wailua, Chelsea got a W finally.
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Odogg wrote:I almost went zo this round, probably next
Nique is a good choice here too. I was contemplating either he or Zo for this round.
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Odogg wrote:Yo Wailua, Chelsea got a W finally.
About time, I'll probably watch it at work later
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wailuaFC wrote:
Odogg wrote:Yo Wailua, Chelsea got a W finally.
About time, I'll probably watch it at work later
Hope i didnt spoil it for ya.
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Odogg wrote:
wailuaFC wrote:
Odogg wrote:Yo Wailua, Chelsea got a W finally.
About time, I'll probably watch it at work later
Hope i didnt spoil it for ya.
No my phone does that for me haha, I really need to take off notifications for my teams games. Right now I've got watford vs Arsenal on in the background while doing morning chores
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Voting for the round closes at 8 pm CST.
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There is a tie between Alonzo Mourning and Dominique Wilkins. We will have a runoff to determine the winner. Voting will end at 9pm CST.

Alonzo Mourning - 4

Dominique Wilkins - 3

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