2015 Anger General Greatest post-merger Players of All Time #34

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Bush4Ever wrote:
It's perfectly fair to say his peak was higher than Parish's (I would probably agree, but I don't think the difference is overwhelmingly large), it just should be framed in a multi-year manner as opposed to "He took apart KG in a handful of games/moments in the Finals one year".

For what it's worth, it wasn't like Garnett was in his prime in 2010. The guy's rebounding was only about 60% of what he was in his prime.
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AlaskaHawks wrote:
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For what it's worth, it wasn't like Garnett was in his prime in 2010. The guy's rebounding was only about 60% of what he was in his prime.
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AlaskaHawks wrote:
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For what it's worth, it wasn't like Garnett was in his prime in 2010. The guy's rebounding was only about 60% of what he was in his prime.
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Pau definitely has a longer stretch of high level play than just the 2010 finals. In fact, other than when Perkins was guarding him in the 2008 finals (and when Perk was out in game 5 Pau handled a healthy KG in that game too), Pau's 2008-2010 stretch was brilliant. And outside of that stretch, he's had several high level regular seasons, such as the 3 where he led the Grizz to the playoffs, and all NBA seasons in 2011 and 2015.
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Robceltsfan wrote:Parish or Zo.

Hmmmmmm...
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Bush4Ever wrote:This will be quick, because I got to run.

1. Gasol's playoff years where he played the bulk of his games took place in the ages usually associated with peak performance. On the other hand, Parish not only played way more playoff games, he played them all over the age range, with roughly 40 games taking place past the age Gasol is now.

2. It's better to look at *ranks* as opposed to raw values when comparing PER across eras.

3. In my eyes, there isn't a *radical* difference between them in terms of peak performance (Parish has 3 top 10 PER ranks, Gasol has 2), in general hardware (Parish has 9 AS games to Gasol's 5--although played in a tougher era position-wise, all-nbas not amazingly difference, etc...), or team success via role (neither did anything as a lead dog, both won multiple rings in a major secondary role, etc....

4. Where I *do* think they part ways is on a career front in volume statistics. Parish is 7th all time in rebounds, Gasol barely inches into the top 50. Parish is 26th in points, Gasol is 64th, Parish is better on blocks, etc....

I don't Gasol makes up that type of gap in the other areas we usually discuss. YMMV (I do think Gasol is a reasonable choice for this spot though).
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y2ktors wrote:
Bush4Ever wrote:This will be quick, because I got to run.

1. Gasol's playoff years where he played the bulk of his games took place in the ages usually associated with peak performance. On the other hand, Parish not only played way more playoff games, he played them all over the age range, with roughly 40 games taking place past the age Gasol is now.

2. It's better to look at *ranks* as opposed to raw values when comparing PER across eras.

3. In my eyes, there isn't a *radical* difference between them in terms of peak performance (Parish has 3 top 10 PER ranks, Gasol has 2), in general hardware (Parish has 9 AS games to Gasol's 5--although played in a tougher era position-wise, all-nbas not amazingly difference, etc...), or team success via role (neither did anything as a lead dog, both won multiple rings in a major secondary role, etc....

4. Where I *do* think they part ways is on a career front in volume statistics. Parish is 7th all time in rebounds, Gasol barely inches into the top 50. Parish is 26th in points, Gasol is 64th, Parish is better on blocks, etc....

I don't Gasol makes up that type of gap in the other areas we usually discuss. YMMV (I do think Gasol is a reasonable choice for this spot though).
So who is your choice?
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I count four votes for pau.

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Three confirmed for parish

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americaninfidel wrote:
y2ktors wrote:
Bush4Ever wrote:This will be quick, because I got to run.

1. Gasol's playoff years where he played the bulk of his games took place in the ages usually associated with peak performance. On the other hand, Parish not only played way more playoff games, he played them all over the age range, with roughly 40 games taking place past the age Gasol is now.

2. It's better to look at *ranks* as opposed to raw values when comparing PER across eras.

3. In my eyes, there isn't a *radical* difference between them in terms of peak performance (Parish has 3 top 10 PER ranks, Gasol has 2), in general hardware (Parish has 9 AS games to Gasol's 5--although played in a tougher era position-wise, all-nbas not amazingly difference, etc...), or team success via role (neither did anything as a lead dog, both won multiple rings in a major secondary role, etc....

4. Where I *do* think they part ways is on a career front in volume statistics. Parish is 7th all time in rebounds, Gasol barely inches into the top 50. Parish is 26th in points, Gasol is 64th, Parish is better on blocks, etc....

I don't Gasol makes up that type of gap in the other areas we usually discuss. YMMV (I do think Gasol is a reasonable choice for this spot though).
So who is your choice?
He voted Parish on the first page, second post.
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Not many votes in this round but we will move on at noon CST.
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Will you do a recount before moving on?
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Odogg wrote:Will you do a recount before moving on?
Yes. I'll get the next round started after recounting the votes in this round.
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Robceltsfan wrote:Parish
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