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lettherebehouse wrote:
elartman1973 wrote:
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Meanwhile, the person I'd least want to blaze with is Artman. He's a buzzkill, a weed snob, a negative nancy. Nobody likes to be around these type of people. The worst kind of stoner there is.
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I'm the generous type of stoner who never runs out of weed

Meh, irrelevant. I'd rather chill with fun positive people. Can't stand uptight puffers consumed with their image and how others percieve them like a high school kid desperate for validation, it's not always a competition. Like I said, people like this (you), are the worst type of people to have a good time with.

..yeah, my OP said I would with Arty, but this does resonate with me because I know the type and couldn't agree more...and I've seen enough Arty post since Feb. of 2014(my OP) to agree with both you and FC...
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lettherebehouse wrote:
elartman1973 wrote:
lettherebehouse wrote:

Meanwhile, the person I'd least want to blaze with is Artman. He's a buzzkill, a weed snob, a negative nancy. Nobody likes to be around these type of people. The worst kind of stoner there is.
Incorrect
I'm the generous type of stoner who never runs out of weed

Meh, irrelevant. I'd rather chill with fun positive people. Can't stand uptight puffers consumed with their image and how others percieve them like a high school kid desperate for validation, it's not always a competition. Like I said, people like this (you), are the worst type of people to have a good time with.
Lol...im not like that at all actually
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elartman1973 wrote:
lettherebehouse wrote:
elartman1973 wrote: Incorrect
I'm the generous type of stoner who never runs out of weed

Meh, irrelevant. I'd rather chill with fun positive people. Can't stand uptight puffers consumed with their image and how others percieve them like a high school kid desperate for validation, it's not always a competition. Like I said, people like this (you), are the worst type of people to have a good time with.
Lol...im not like that at all actually
How could it be, you're never seeking validation on here...
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elartman1973 wrote:
lettherebehouse wrote:
elartman1973 wrote: Incorrect
I'm the generous type of stoner who never runs out of weed

Meh, irrelevant. I'd rather chill with fun positive people. Can't stand uptight puffers consumed with their image and how others percieve them like a high school kid desperate for validation, it's not always a competition. Like I said, people like this (you), are the worst type of people to have a good time with.
Lol...im not like that at all actually

I've seen enough of your posts on this topic to know that's exactly how you are. I've known plenty of people who act like this, and never understood why. Actually, I do know why, it's just strange to see it from a grown ass man.
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lettherebehouse wrote:
elartman1973 wrote:
lettherebehouse wrote:

Meh, irrelevant. I'd rather chill with fun positive people. Can't stand uptight puffers consumed with their image and how others percieve them like a high school kid desperate for validation, it's not always a competition. Like I said, people like this (you), are the worst type of people to have a good time with.
Lol...im not like that at all actually

I've seen enough of your posts on this topic to know that's exactly how you are. I've known plenty of people who act like this, and never understood why. Actually, I do know why, it's just strange to see it from a grown ass man.
Nope..not at all
anything else has been you clowns forcing my hand in that direction...blame yourself
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elartman1973 wrote:
lettherebehouse wrote:
elartman1973 wrote: Lol...im not like that at all actually

I've seen enough of your posts on this topic to know that's exactly how you are. I've known plenty of people who act like this, and never understood why. Actually, I do know why, it's just strange to see it from a grown ass man.
Nope..not at all
anything else has been you clowns forcing my hand in that direction...blame yourself
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Most weed heads don't go beyond marijuana. There has been a campaign against weed since forever probably because weed gets people to start thinking. You know they don't want even one person outside the circle to really be thinking.

Being smart doesn't mean that you think (learned things) or are even remotely analytical.

I wonder what people are saying now that over the years somehow weed has been used more and more for medicinal purposes and you know doctors don't like that. It also was/is a tool so that police can mess with you but lo and behold weed is becoming legal in more states as time goes on.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/05/1 ... lp00000592

From the article above:

"A 2013 study from the American Civil Liberties Union found that black people, in general, are nearly four times more likely to be arrested for marijuana possession than whites, even though blacks and whites use marijuana at about the same rates. In Texas, which has one of the highest arrest rates for marijuana possession in the U.S., blacks are about twice as likely to be arrested for simple possession than whites. In some counties, that rate skyrockets, with blacks 34 times more likely than whites to be arrested for possession."
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Smelters wrote:Most weed heads don't go beyond marijuana. There has been a campaign against weed since forever probably because weed gets people to start thinking. You know they don't want even one person outside the circle to really be thinking.

Being smart doesn't mean that you think (learned things) or are even remotely analytical.

I wonder what people are saying now that over the years somehow weed has been used more and more for medicinal purposes and you know doctors don't like that. It also was/is a tool so that police can mess with you but lo and behold weed is becoming legal in more states as time goes on.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/05/1 ... lp00000592

From the article above:

"A 2013 study from the American Civil Liberties Union found that black people, in general, are nearly four times more likely to be arrested for marijuana possession than whites, even though blacks and whites use marijuana at about the same rates. In Texas, which has one of the highest arrest rates for marijuana possession in the U.S., blacks are about twice as likely to be arrested for simple possession than whites. In some counties, that rate skyrockets, with blacks 34 times more likely than whites to be arrested for possession."
I love how you can turn even an argument about weed into a race related subject
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Smelters wrote:Most weed heads don't go beyond marijuana. There has been a campaign against weed since forever probably because weed gets people to start thinking. You know they don't want even one person outside the circle to really be thinking.

Being smart doesn't mean that you think (learned things) or are even remotely analytical.

I wonder what people are saying now that over the years somehow weed has been used more and more for medicinal purposes and you know doctors don't like that. It also was/is a tool so that police can mess with you but lo and behold weed is becoming legal in more states as time goes on.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/05/1 ... lp00000592

From the article above:

"A 2013 study from the American Civil Liberties Union found that black people, in general, are nearly four times more likely to be arrested for marijuana possession than whites, even though blacks and whites use marijuana at about the same rates. In Texas, which has one of the highest arrest rates for marijuana possession in the U.S., blacks are about twice as likely to be arrested for simple possession than whites. In some counties, that rate skyrockets, with blacks 34 times more likely than whites to be arrested for possession."
I completely agree that marijuana has been overly demonized throughout history, and there's no reason why it shouldn't legal (even though it's not my drug of choice).

The only thing I take issue with you on Smelters is your whole "weed gets people thinking" angle. You've played this card before on several occasions, and there is a very specific type of pot smoker that preaches about how intelligent and insightful weed makes him/her.

Marijuana and alcohol do not make you smarter, Smelters. Using one or the other might make you feel smarter, tougher, better looking, braver, etc., but the fact is that both kill brain cells and cause memory loss. I drink more than I should (I'm a craft beer nerd and I'm also into wine and whiskey), and I've smoked marijuana roughly 40-50 times in my life. I prefer booze, I have no problem with someone who prefers weed, and I have never operated under the false assumption that either could or has made me more intelligent.
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wailuaFC wrote:
Smelters wrote:Most weed heads don't go beyond marijuana. There has been a campaign against weed since forever probably because weed gets people to start thinking. You know they don't want even one person outside the circle to really be thinking.

Being smart doesn't mean that you think (learned things) or are even remotely analytical.

I wonder what people are saying now that over the years somehow weed has been used more and more for medicinal purposes and you know doctors don't like that. It also was/is a tool so that police can mess with you but lo and behold weed is becoming legal in more states as time goes on.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/05/1 ... lp00000592

From the article above:

"A 2013 study from the American Civil Liberties Union found that black people, in general, are nearly four times more likely to be arrested for marijuana possession than whites, even though blacks and whites use marijuana at about the same rates. In Texas, which has one of the highest arrest rates for marijuana possession in the U.S., blacks are about twice as likely to be arrested for simple possession than whites. In some counties, that rate skyrockets, with blacks 34 times more likely than whites to be arrested for possession."
I love how you can turn even an argument about weed into a race related subject
I know FC. I love how you jump on mine's but when other posters do it (the other way which happens much more often) you say nothing.

I had to include that as another example of unfair policing to show people who post anti black threads and posts.
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Smelters wrote:
wailuaFC wrote:
Smelters wrote:Most weed heads don't go beyond marijuana. There has been a campaign against weed since forever probably because weed gets people to start thinking. You know they don't want even one person outside the circle to really be thinking.

Being smart doesn't mean that you think (learned things) or are even remotely analytical.

I wonder what people are saying now that over the years somehow weed has been used more and more for medicinal purposes and you know doctors don't like that. It also was/is a tool so that police can mess with you but lo and behold weed is becoming legal in more states as time goes on.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/05/1 ... lp00000592

From the article above:

"A 2013 study from the American Civil Liberties Union found that black people, in general, are nearly four times more likely to be arrested for marijuana possession than whites, even though blacks and whites use marijuana at about the same rates. In Texas, which has one of the highest arrest rates for marijuana possession in the U.S., blacks are about twice as likely to be arrested for simple possession than whites. In some counties, that rate skyrockets, with blacks 34 times more likely than whites to be arrested for possession."
I love how you can turn even an argument about weed into a race related subject
I know FC. I love how you jump on mine's but when other posters do it (the other way which happens much more often) you say nothing.

I had to include that as another example of unfair policing to show people who post anti black threads and posts.
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rtiff68 wrote:
Smelters wrote:Most weed heads don't go beyond marijuana. There has been a campaign against weed since forever probably because weed gets people to start thinking. You know they don't want even one person outside the circle to really be thinking.

Being smart doesn't mean that you think (learned things) or are even remotely analytical.

I wonder what people are saying now that over the years somehow weed has been used more and more for medicinal purposes and you know doctors don't like that. It also was/is a tool so that police can mess with you but lo and behold weed is becoming legal in more states as time goes on.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/05/1 ... lp00000592

From the article above:

"A 2013 study from the American Civil Liberties Union found that black people, in general, are nearly four times more likely to be arrested for marijuana possession than whites, even though blacks and whites use marijuana at about the same rates. In Texas, which has one of the highest arrest rates for marijuana possession in the U.S., blacks are about twice as likely to be arrested for simple possession than whites. In some counties, that rate skyrockets, with blacks 34 times more likely than whites to be arrested for possession."
I completely agree that marijuana has been overly demonized throughout history, and there's no reason why it shouldn't legal (even though it's not my drug of choice).

The only thing I take issue with you on Smelters is your whole "weed gets people thinking" angle. You've played this card before on several occasions, and there is a very specific type of pot smoker that preaches about how intelligent and insightful weed makes him/her.

Marijuana and alcohol do not make you smarter, Smelters. Using one or the other might make you feel smarter, tougher, better looking, braver, etc., but the fact is that both kill brain cells and cause memory loss. I drink more than I should (I'm a craft beer nerd and I'm also into wine and whiskey), and I've smoked marijuana roughly 40-50 times in my less. I prefer booze, I have no problem with someone who prefers weed, and I have never operated under the false assumption that either could or has made me more intelligent.
Whoops I already talked about being smart and didn't say it made you smarter. It makes you think more and for some that is a shock.
It makes people more analytical, now that depends on the individual person as to the extent of their analyzing.

Realistically How many people have you seen strung out on marijuana? You have people in their 60s, 70s still smoking weed. Now compare them to someone using alcohol, cigs and other drugs at the same rate and I can bet you that the weed person will most likely be in the best condition overall than the other users.
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Smelters wrote:
wailuaFC wrote:
Smelters wrote:Most weed heads don't go beyond marijuana. There has been a campaign against weed since forever probably because weed gets people to start thinking. You know they don't want even one person outside the circle to really be thinking.

Being smart doesn't mean that you think (learned things) or are even remotely analytical.

I wonder what people are saying now that over the years somehow weed has been used more and more for medicinal purposes and you know doctors don't like that. It also was/is a tool so that police can mess with you but lo and behold weed is becoming legal in more states as time goes on.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/05/1 ... lp00000592

From the article above:

"A 2013 study from the American Civil Liberties Union found that black people, in general, are nearly four times more likely to be arrested for marijuana possession than whites, even though blacks and whites use marijuana at about the same rates. In Texas, which has one of the highest arrest rates for marijuana possession in the U.S., blacks are about twice as likely to be arrested for simple possession than whites. In some counties, that rate skyrockets, with blacks 34 times more likely than whites to be arrested for possession."
I love how you can turn even an argument about weed into a race related subject
I know FC. I love how you jump on mine's but when other posters do it (the other way which happens much more often) you say nothing.

I had to include that as another example of unfair policing to show people who post anti black threads and posts.
No you didn't have to include anything about race, but you chose to. I get on your case because your constantly trying to play the victim of racism card, but you're probably the most racist person on here. If you don't like it when other posters troll about racism, why would you do it yourself?
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Smelters wrote:
rtiff68 wrote:
Smelters wrote:Most weed heads don't go beyond marijuana. There has been a campaign against weed since forever probably because weed gets people to start thinking. You know they don't want even one person outside the circle to really be thinking.

Being smart doesn't mean that you think (learned things) or are even remotely analytical.

I wonder what people are saying now that over the years somehow weed has been used more and more for medicinal purposes and you know doctors don't like that. It also was/is a tool so that police can mess with you but lo and behold weed is becoming legal in more states as time goes on.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/05/1 ... lp00000592

From the article above:

"A 2013 study from the American Civil Liberties Union found that black people, in general, are nearly four times more likely to be arrested for marijuana possession than whites, even though blacks and whites use marijuana at about the same rates. In Texas, which has one of the highest arrest rates for marijuana possession in the U.S., blacks are about twice as likely to be arrested for simple possession than whites. In some counties, that rate skyrockets, with blacks 34 times more likely than whites to be arrested for possession."
I completely agree that marijuana has been overly demonized throughout history, and there's no reason why it shouldn't legal (even though it's not my drug of choice).

The only thing I take issue with you on Smelters is your whole "weed gets people thinking" angle. You've played this card before on several occasions, and there is a very specific type of pot smoker that preaches about how intelligent and insightful weed makes him/her.

Marijuana and alcohol do not make you smarter, Smelters. Using one or the other might make you feel smarter, tougher, better looking, braver, etc., but the fact is that both kill brain cells and cause memory loss. I drink more than I should (I'm a craft beer nerd and I'm also into wine and whiskey), and I've smoked marijuana roughly 40-50 times in my less. I prefer booze, I have no problem with someone who prefers weed, and I have never operated under the false assumption that either could or has made me more intelligent.
Whoops I already talked about being smart and didn't say it made you smarter. It makes you think more and for some that is a shock.
It makes people more analytical, now that depends on the individual person as to the extent of their analyzing.

Realistically How many people have you seen strung out on marijuana? You have people in their 60s, 70s still smoking weed. Now compare them to someone using alcohol, cigs and other drugs at the same rate and I can bet you that the weed person will most likely be in the best condition overall than the other users.
Marijuana does not improve analytical skills or cognitive function. This is not up for debate.

It can make people feel more analytical or introspective at times, hence the appeal (the same way alcohol makes people have fewe inhibitions).

You know the drunk at the bar who thinks he's the toughest, coolest, best looking guy at the bar? He has a foil in the pot-smoking world: the stoned guy who thinks he's extremely profound but makes zero sense to everyone around him.
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rtiff68 wrote:
Smelters wrote:
wailuaFC wrote: I love how you can turn even an argument about weed into a race related subject
I know FC. I love how you jump on mine's but when other posters do it (the other way which happens much more often) you say nothing.

I had to include that as another example of unfair policing to show people who post anti black threads and posts.
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You really don't get it, do you?
I don't have a "I can't stand" for people on here so that ruins your statement right there.

So you only see it one way, interesting. Where is all this energy from you when this board is bombarded with anti black people posts and threads (threads which I respond in, not create , hmmm)?

This is a board of discussion so what am I supposed to do just let those many anti black posts/threads go on without saying something that is on my mind. Yeah it seems okay when it goes one way, you must be white.

I just posted something about black people getting arrested way more for the same crime as whites. I didn't say anything negative about whites. FOH!!!
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wailuaFC wrote:
Smelters wrote:
wailuaFC wrote: I love how you can turn even an argument about weed into a race related subject
I know FC. I love how you jump on mine's but when other posters do it (the other way which happens much more often) you say nothing.

I had to include that as another example of unfair policing to show people who post anti black threads and posts.
No you didn't have to include anything about race, but you chose to. I get on your case because your constantly trying to play the victim of racism card, but you're probably the most racist person on here. If you don't like it when other posters troll about racism, why would you do it yourself?
Because I feel like it. When are you ever going to speak out in the other direction? Oh I forgot you are a hypocrite.

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rtiff68 wrote:
elartman1973 wrote:
lettherebehouse wrote:

I've seen enough of your posts on this topic to know that's exactly how you are. I've known plenty of people who act like this, and never understood why. Actually, I do know why, it's just strange to see it from a grown ass man.
Nope..not at all
anything else has been you clowns forcing my hand in that direction...blame yourself
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wailuaFC wrote:
Smelters wrote:Most weed heads don't go beyond marijuana. There has been a campaign against weed since forever probably because weed gets people to start thinking. You know they don't want even one person outside the circle to really be thinking.

Being smart doesn't mean that you think (learned things) or are even remotely analytical.

I wonder what people are saying now that over the years somehow weed has been used more and more for medicinal purposes and you know doctors don't like that. It also was/is a tool so that police can mess with you but lo and behold weed is becoming legal in more states as time goes on.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/05/1 ... lp00000592

From the article above:

"A 2013 study from the American Civil Liberties Union found that black people, in general, are nearly four times more likely to be arrested for marijuana possession than whites, even though blacks and whites use marijuana at about the same rates. In Texas, which has one of the highest arrest rates for marijuana possession in the U.S., blacks are about twice as likely to be arrested for simple possession than whites. In some counties, that rate skyrockets, with blacks 34 times more likely than whites to be arrested for possession."
I love how you can turn even an argument about weed into a race related subject
It was made illegal in order to have a reason to deport mexicans back in the 1920s ...true story
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rtiff68 wrote:
Smelters wrote:
rtiff68 wrote:
I completely agree that marijuana has been overly demonized throughout history, and there's no reason why it shouldn't legal (even though it's not my drug of choice).

The only thing I take issue with you on Smelters is your whole "weed gets people thinking" angle. You've played this card before on several occasions, and there is a very specific type of pot smoker that preaches about how intelligent and insightful weed makes him/her.

Marijuana and alcohol do not make you smarter, Smelters. Using one or the other might make you feel smarter, tougher, better looking, braver, etc., but the fact is that both kill brain cells and cause memory loss. I drink more than I should (I'm a craft beer nerd and I'm also into wine and whiskey), and I've smoked marijuana roughly 40-50 times in my less. I prefer booze, I have no problem with someone who prefers weed, and I have never operated under the false assumption that either could or has made me more intelligent.
Whoops I already talked about being smart and didn't say it made you smarter. It makes you think more and for some that is a shock.
It makes people more analytical, now that depends on the individual person as to the extent of their analyzing.

Realistically How many people have you seen strung out on marijuana? You have people in their 60s, 70s still smoking weed. Now compare them to someone using alcohol, cigs and other drugs at the same rate and I can bet you that the weed person will most likely be in the best condition overall than the other users.
Marijuana does not improve analytical skills or cognitive function. This is not up for debate.

It can make people feel more analytical or introspective at times, hence the appeal (the same way alcohol makes people have fewe inhibitions).

You know the drunk at the bar who thinks he's the toughest, coolest, best looking guy at the bar? He has a foil in the pot-smoking world: the stoned guy who thinks he's extremely profound but makes zero sense to everyone around him.
Really?!!! :lol: :lol: :lol: I bet you that is being debated right now on some high level, no pun intended

But there are people who make sense. Please remember. It only takes one
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