2015 Anger General Greatest post-merger Players of All Time #3

[Y2K]

Can you give me a breakdown and how to figure out which players are leaders, second fiddles, and co leaders? If media hardware is your only criteria, would curry and iggy be co leaders as they both won a MVP trophy as teammates?

He praised Duncan for some of the same stuff that he's criticizing Kobe about. Duncan hasn't won any awards (MVP, FMVP, DPOY) since his FMVP in 2005, a span in which they've won 2 more rings. His entire resume was taken at face value and Kobe's resume isn't while being criticized for not winning any awards while Shaq was there? Why the hypocrisy?

Duncan was NEVER a second-fiddle for half his career... so he and Kobe aren't even remotely similar.

Duncan has been a fiddle for the last 5 seasons. Next season will be #6. Kobe was a fiddle for his first 6 seasons. Again, you're being very hypocritical. Hopefully it's intentional because I don't believe that you're delusional like some may say on here.

[americaninfidel]

Kareem from 1977-89:

5× NBA champion (1980, 1982, 1985, 1987–1988)
1× NBA Finals MVP (1985)
2× NBA Most Valuable Player (1977, 1980)
12× NBA All-Star (1977, 1979–1989)
5× All-NBA First Team (1977, 1980–1981, 1984, 1986)
4× All-NBA Second Team (1978–1979, 1983, 1985)
3× NBA All-Defensive First Team (1979–1981)
3× NBA All-Defensive Second Team (1977–1978, 1984)
2× NBA blocks leader (1979–1980)

1011 games

9021/15792 fg = 58% FG
3858/5188 ft = 74%
21901 pts = 21.7 ppg
8896 rbs = 8.8 rpg
3239 ast = 3.2 apg
2356 blk = 2.3 bpg

Righteous. But I think you're probably going to have to settle for Kareem at #5. Magic is running away here, and most likely Bird is going to get #4.

[Deez]

Magic

[vcsgrizzfan]

I'll go Bird, just to make it more interesting. I'm kind of ambivalent between Bird and Magic.

[ripper76]

Bird

[Y2K]

Kareem from 1977-89:

5× NBA champion (1980, 1982, 1985, 1987–1988)
1× NBA Finals MVP (1985)
2× NBA Most Valuable Player (1977, 1980)
12× NBA All-Star (1977, 1979–1989)
5× All-NBA First Team (1977, 1980–1981, 1984, 1986)
4× All-NBA Second Team (1978–1979, 1983, 1985)
3× NBA All-Defensive First Team (1979–1981)
3× NBA All-Defensive Second Team (1977–1978, 1984)
2× NBA blocks leader (1979–1980)

1011 games

9021/15792 fg = 58% FG
3858/5188 ft = 74%
21901 pts = 21.7 ppg
8896 rbs = 8.8 rpg
3239 ast = 3.2 apg
2356 blk = 2.3 bpg

Righteous. But I think you're probably going to have to settle for Kareem at #5. Magic is running away here, and most likely Bird is going to get #4.

Magic looks like he's going to be tough to beat this round. Kareem definitely has the resume and the production to beat Magic. He just hasn't had much traction to convince enough people that he's worthy.

[876Stephen]

Magic

[Shill Jackson]

Duncan over Magic!?

I thought this was the Anger General Greatest post-merger Players of All Time poll.
Not the Who can I pick that isn't a Laker

It is still Magic

[Odogg]

Duncan over Magic!?

I thought this was the Anger General Greatest post-merger Players of All Time poll.
Not the Who can I pick that isn't a Laker

It is still Magic

I know right? Should have at least kept the voting open longer given the one vote diff.

[vcsgrizzfan]

Duncan over Magic!?

I thought this was the Anger General Greatest post-merger Players of All Time poll.
Not the Who can I pick that isn't a Laker

It is still Magic

One of the Duncan votes was from a Lakers fan - fpliii. I think the only real Laker hater who voted Duncan was probably TDK, and he’s more a Kobe hater than a Laker hater.

[l3bron]

Funny how the two Laker fans upset Magic isn't #2 are the only ones crying about biases.

Never change Laker fans.

[Y2K]

Duncan over Magic!?

I thought this was the Anger General Greatest post-merger Players of All Time poll.
Not the Who can I pick that isn't a Laker

It is still Magic

I know right? Should have at least kept the voting open longer given the one vote diff.

It was open for 48 hrs. I voted for Magic Johnson with under an hour to go and that closed the gap To 1 but no one else voted.

I don't think that Duncan was a bad selection for #2 but I am a little surprised that he went before Magic...just a little.

[Robceltsfan]

Bird.

[Deez]

So our Anger General GOAT list would now Have Duncan at #4 if we did a re vote? People here are saying he's top 5 all -time

[Robceltsfan]

So our Anger General GOAT list would now Have Duncan at #4 if we did a re vote? People here are saying he's top 5 all -time

Didn't make any sense to me either....but oh well.

[vcsgrizzfan]

So our Anger General GOAT list would now Have Duncan at #4 if we did a re vote? People here are saying he's top 5 all -time

Didn't make any sense to me either....but oh well.

People are awakening to Timmy's greatness!

Another year of excellent play at his advanced years (he's older than Moses in basketball years, especially for a big man) works in his favor as well.

[Robceltsfan]

So our Anger General GOAT list would now Have Duncan at #4 if we did a re vote? People here are saying he's top 5 all -time

Didn't make any sense to me either....but oh well.

People are awakening to Timmy's greatness!

Another year of excellent play at his advanced years (he's older than Moses in basketball years, especially for a big man) works in his favor as well.

I've ascended Timmy to 6th or 7th all-time....but I just don't think he's good enough to be ahead of Magic and Bird. I don't place as much emphasis on longevity as some.

[vcsgrizzfan]

Didn't make any sense to me either....but oh well.

People are awakening to Timmy's greatness!

Another year of excellent play at his advanced years (he's older than Moses in basketball years, especially for a big man) works in his favor as well.

I've ascended Timmy to 6th or 7th all-time....but I just don't think he's good enough to be ahead of Magic and Bird. I don't place as much emphasis on longevity as some.

I get that. I also think to some extent nostalgia might keep Magic and Bird a hair higher than perhaps they should be. I don't feel strongly either way with respect to their ranking relative to Duncan, but I certainly don't see it as an injustice if Duncan is ranked higher. I really think he tends to be under appreciated in general. The lack of flash in his game makes it very easy to take him for granted, but he does everything well that is important to help a team win.

[Bush4Ever]

In general, Duncan's was maybe a step behind those two offensively (in general), but he was several levels above them defensively, and when the hardware starts to equal out....

[Robceltsfan]

In general, Duncan's was maybe a step behind those two offensively (in general), but he was several levels above them defensively, and when the hardware starts to equal out....

All due respect to Duncan....but he was far more than one step behind Bird and Magic offensively.