Better career stats? Kareem or Jordan?
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It's hard to debate a big man vs a guard for better stats. MJ was the better player but not by much. Kareem is #2 no doubt but just because he played 20 flipping seasons you can't jump him over Jordan. Jordan did as much or more than Kareem did in 6 less seasons played. Did Kareem ever have 2 three peats? Jordan was the best when it counted in the finals 6 times to Kareems 2. 9 times he was on the Defensive 1st team to Kareems 5. Like i said i'ts a small margin but you have to go with MJ as the GOAT and just behind is Kareem.
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Thanks for your analysis. this thread is only about comparing their stats though.deezna10 wrote:It's hard to debate a big man vs a guard for better stats. MJ was the better player but not by much. Kareem is #2 no doubt but just because he played 20 flipping seasons you can't jump him over Jordan. Jordan did as much or more than Kareem did in 6 less seasons played. Did Kareem ever have 2 three peats? Jordan was the best when it counted in the finals 6 times to Kareems 2. 9 times he was on the Defensive 1st team to Kareems 5. Like i said i'ts a small margin but you have to go with MJ as the GOAT and just behind is Kareem.
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If you are gonna compare 2 different position players, a big man should win the stats argument almost everytime if he's a solid player. Nobody is going to compete with rebounds and blocks on a big man or FG% or not likely anyway.paskeezy3000 wrote:Thanks for your analysis. this thread is only about comparing their stats though.deezna10 wrote:It's hard to debate a big man vs a guard for better stats. MJ was the better player but not by much. Kareem is #2 no doubt but just because he played 20 flipping seasons you can't jump him over Jordan. Jordan did as much or more than Kareem did in 6 less seasons played. Did Kareem ever have 2 three peats? Jordan was the best when it counted in the finals 6 times to Kareems 2. 9 times he was on the Defensive 1st team to Kareems 5. Like i said i'ts a small margin but you have to go with MJ as the GOAT and just behind is Kareem.
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Sooo Kareem?deezna10 wrote:If you are gonna compare 2 different position players, a big man should win the stats argument almost everytime if he's a solid player. Nobody is going to compete with rebounds and blocks on a big man or FG% or not likely anyway.paskeezy3000 wrote:Thanks for your analysis. this thread is only about comparing their stats though.deezna10 wrote:It's hard to debate a big man vs a guard for better stats. MJ was the better player but not by much. Kareem is #2 no doubt but just because he played 20 flipping seasons you can't jump him over Jordan. Jordan did as much or more than Kareem did in 6 less seasons played. Did Kareem ever have 2 three peats? Jordan was the best when it counted in the finals 6 times to Kareems 2. 9 times he was on the Defensive 1st team to Kareems 5. Like i said i'ts a small margin but you have to go with MJ as the GOAT and just behind is Kareem.
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If those were stats by 2 players playing position i'd say yespaskeezy3000 wrote:Sooo Kareem?deezna10 wrote:If you are gonna compare 2 different position players, a big man should win the stats argument almost everytime if he's a solid player. Nobody is going to compete with rebounds and blocks on a big man or FG% or not likely anyway.paskeezy3000 wrote: Thanks for your analysis. this thread is only about comparing their stats though.
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I am not really sure what this was suppose to prove.
Ceteris Paribus is essential for comparing in a serious way, and any analysis between Jordan and Kareem is going to violate that clause.
Ceteris Paribus is essential for comparing in a serious way, and any analysis between Jordan and Kareem is going to violate that clause.
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1) MJ
2) Kareem
3) Magic
4) Russell
5) Wilt
2) Kareem
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i have created a thread to generate basketball discussion. and in that purpose, i was a success.Bush4Ever wrote:I am not really sure what this was suppose to prove.
Ceteris Paribus is essential for comparing in a serious way, and any analysis between Jordan and Kareem is going to violate that clause.
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wrong thread, chud.Carpediem77 wrote:1) MJ
2) Kareem
3) Magic
4) Russell
5) Wilt
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paskeezy3000 wrote:wrong thread, chud.Carpediem77 wrote:1) MJ
2) Kareem
3) Magic
4) Russell
5) Wilt
Ok, I'll make it easy for you.....Jordan
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thanks. your answer was very well thought out and reasons thoroughly articulated. well done.Carpediem77 wrote:paskeezy3000 wrote:wrong thread, chud.Carpediem77 wrote:1) MJ
2) Kareem
3) Magic
4) Russell
5) Wilt
Ok, I'll make it easy for you.....Jordan
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You're welcome...by your argument Kobe will have NO argument against LeBron by the time their careers are over...are u sure you've thoroughly thought out your stance here?...this will be used soon to prove the case against Kobe in favor of LeBron...u know that right?paskeezy3000 wrote:thanks. your answer was very well thought out and reasons thoroughly articulated. well done.Carpediem77 wrote:paskeezy3000 wrote: wrong thread, chud.
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5>2Carpediem77 wrote:You're welcome...by your argument Kobe will have NO argument against LeBron by the time their careers are over...are u sure you've thoroughly thought out your stance here?...this will be used soon to prove the case against Kobe in favor of LeBron...u know that right?paskeezy3000 wrote:thanks. your answer was very well thought out and reasons thoroughly articulated. well done.Carpediem77 wrote:
Ok, I'll make it easy for you.....Jordan
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paskeezy3000 wrote:5>2Carpediem77 wrote:You're welcome...by your argument Kobe will have NO argument against LeBron by the time their careers are over...are u sure you've thoroughly thought out your stance here?...this will be used soon to prove the case against Kobe in favor of LeBron...u know that right?paskeezy3000 wrote: thanks. your answer was very well thought out and reasons thoroughly articulated. well done.
So Finals do make a diff?...what abt what the player does in said finals?..What if LeBron get 3 more?...see how your argument will ultimately be turned on Kobe?
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Have to look at more than just rings but rings are a large part no doubt. Russell has 11 rings, do you think he's better than kobe, kareem, jordan etc?paskeezy3000 wrote:5>2Carpediem77 wrote:You're welcome...by your argument Kobe will have NO argument against LeBron by the time their careers are over...are u sure you've thoroughly thought out your stance here?...this will be used soon to prove the case against Kobe in favor of LeBron...u know that right?paskeezy3000 wrote: thanks. your answer was very well thought out and reasons thoroughly articulated. well done.
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if lebron gets 3 more he will be greater than kobe. i have no problem with that. as long as kobe doesnt win any more too.Carpediem77 wrote:paskeezy3000 wrote:5>2Carpediem77 wrote:
You're welcome...by your argument Kobe will have NO argument against LeBron by the time their careers are over...are u sure you've thoroughly thought out your stance here?...this will be used soon to prove the case against Kobe in favor of LeBron...u know that right?
So Finals do make a diff?...what abt what the player does in said finals?..What if LeBron get 3 more?...see how your argument will ultimately be turned on Kobe?
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im not sure how i feel about Russell. i def respect him and his accomplishments but the fact that he played with Dr. James Naismith and shot into a peach basket hurts his all time ranking a tad IMO.deezna10 wrote:Have to look at more than just rings but rings are a large part no doubt. Russell has 11 rings, do you think he's better than kobe, kareem, jordan etc?paskeezy3000 wrote:5>2Carpediem77 wrote:
You're welcome...by your argument Kobe will have NO argument against LeBron by the time their careers are over...are u sure you've thoroughly thought out your stance here?...this will be used soon to prove the case against Kobe in favor of LeBron...u know that right?
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Russell was also a defensive player, if he had a better offensive game people could argue for him but i think without that part he's not better than kareem or jordan and i don't think it's close. Also like you said about Naismith and shooting into a peach basket.paskeezy3000 wrote:im not sure how i feel about Russell. i def respect him and his accomplishments but the fact that he played with Dr. James Naismith and shot into a peach basket hurts his all time ranking a tad IMO.deezna10 wrote:Have to look at more than just rings but rings are a large part no doubt. Russell has 11 rings, do you think he's better than kobe, kareem, jordan etc?paskeezy3000 wrote: 5>2