Curry is better than Lebron ever was

[wailuaFC]

I don't think an argument can be made to go against that.

Which opens up all those nice driving lanes for guys with poor handles (Barnes, klay, and Draymond) to slash to the basket and not have to handle the ball

Imagine what Curry's scoring would look like if he had somebody who can score in the post consistently.

I don't think it would really improve much to be honest, having a secondary ball handler would be more beneficial as curry could play more off ball

[wailuaFC]

Lebron is basically almost a 40% 3 pt shooter for the last 4 years...and then also dominate going to the hoop...his fg% was damn near 60% the last few years...daring lebron to shoot is pretty stupid...but you have to pick one and a layup is always a higher % shot than a 3

Teams pack the paint and try to force him to take jumpers, are you actually disagreeing with that?

No, i'm just pointing out that lebron is dominate from almost everywhere on the court hence better offensively...curry is a better 3pt% but lebron is so much better in almost all other areas of the court...hence lebron has the higher fg%...and lebron isn't that much worse of a 3pt shooter where there is a big difference...

Lebron shot .001% better from the field despite shooting over 300 less threes, you're really starting to come off as a homer.

[rileymartin]

...and I stated my reasoning, which is backed up by statistical fact.

You, on the other hand, simply said "lol." LeBron is a better individual scorer, Curry has a greater impact upon the opposing team's defense.

Backed up by statistical fact lol...

You see riley, that's how arguments work. You explain your reasoning (which I did pages ago) in detail, and then you back up said reasoning with objective data (statistics, in this case).

Here's how arguments don't work: creating straw men-- i.e. things that individual you're conversing with never said (I think counted at least 5 by you in this thread, and I've repeated them multiple times), responding simply by saying "lol," and writing wildly inaccurate summaries of events.

What's next up for rileymartin, revisionist historian, by the way?

-"How the Germans and the Japanese won World War 2?"

-"How Mitt Romney defeated Barack Obama in the last presidential election?"

-"How LeBron James re-signed with the Miami Heat last offseason and lead them to their 5th straight ECF?"

Just curious. After this thread, I doubt your reading comprehension but I don't doubt your creativity.

Sorry dude, but the only thing you can give is your opinion. there is simply no definitive way to prove who's presence on the court makes a bigger difference lol.
You can say Curry might spread the floor a little better than LeBron with his shooting, but LeBron draws a shit load of defenders too.

[Thedictator]

The problem with curry is what happens when he gets guarded at the 3....i mean the saying live and die by the three wasn't created out of nowhere......Memphis played it right the first few games....a better team will expose it tho....

[Thedictator]

Teams pack the paint and try to force him to take jumpers, are you actually disagreeing with that?

No, i'm just pointing out that lebron is dominate from almost everywhere on the court hence better offensively...curry is a better 3pt% but lebron is so much better in almost all other areas of the court...hence lebron has the higher fg%...and lebron isn't that much worse of a 3pt shooter where there is a big difference...

Lebron shot .001% better from the field despite shooting over 300 less threes, you're really starting to come off as a homer.

This was sorta an off year for lebron if you can call it that...his numbers are much much more dominate if you take a look over the last few years

[rileymartin]

Teams pack the paint and try to force him to take jumpers, are you actually disagreeing with that?

No, i'm just pointing out that lebron is dominate from almost everywhere on the court hence better offensively...curry is a better 3pt% but lebron is so much better in almost all other areas of the court...hence lebron has the higher fg%...and lebron isn't that much worse of a 3pt shooter where there is a big difference...

Lebron shot .001% better from the field despite shooting over 300 less threes, you're really starting to come off as a homer.

Curry had a great season.

It would still fall behind 10 of LeBron's seasons despite the shooting percentages.

[LNS]

It doesn't matter what points have or haven't been made in this thread.... whoever gets in the last post wins.

[wailuaFC]

No, i'm just pointing out that lebron is dominate from almost everywhere on the court hence better offensively...curry is a better 3pt% but lebron is so much better in almost all other areas of the court...hence lebron has the higher fg%...and lebron isn't that much worse of a 3pt shooter where there is a big difference...

Lebron shot .001% better from the field despite shooting over 300 less threes, you're really starting to come off as a homer.

This was sorta an off year for lebron if you can call it that...his numbers are much much more dominate if you take a look over the last few years

THATS NOT THE ARGUMENT holy shit you guys

[wailuaFC]

No, i'm just pointing out that lebron is dominate from almost everywhere on the court hence better offensively...curry is a better 3pt% but lebron is so much better in almost all other areas of the court...hence lebron has the higher fg%...and lebron isn't that much worse of a 3pt shooter where there is a big difference...

Lebron shot .001% better from the field despite shooting over 300 less threes, you're really starting to come off as a homer.

Curry had a great season.

It would still fall behind 10 of LeBron's seasons despite the shooting percentages.

Cool, relevancy? Maybe .1/10

[rileymartin]

Based on these silly homers arguments, I guess Curry is a better offensive player than Jordan, Kobe, Shaq, and many others since he is such a great 3 point shooter.

[rtiff68]

Backed up by statistical fact lol...

You see riley, that's how arguments work. You explain your reasoning (which I did pages ago) in detail, and then you back up said reasoning with objective data (statistics, in this case).

Here's how arguments don't work: creating straw men-- i.e. things that individual you're conversing with never said (I think counted at least 5 by you in this thread, and I've repeated them multiple times), responding simply by saying "lol," and writing wildly inaccurate summaries of events.

What's next up for rileymartin, revisionist historian, by the way?

-"How the Germans and the Japanese won World War 2?"

-"How Mitt Romney defeated Barack Obama in the last presidential election?"

-"How LeBron James re-signed with the Miami Heat last offseason and lead them to their 5th straight ECF?"

Just curious. After this thread, I doubt your reading comprehension but I don't doubt your creativity.

Sorry dude, but the only thing you can give is your opinion. there is simply no definitive way to prove who's presence on the court makes a bigger difference lol.
You can say Curry might spread the floor a little better than LeBron with his shooting, but LeBron draws a shit load of defenders too.

Refer back to my "straw men" comment, bro.

When did I ever say it wasn't debatable? When did I ever say it wasn't my opinion?

Of course it's an opinion, and there's no way to prove it definitively! What does that have to do anything?

You responded to my opinion/argument with nothing but "lol;" in short, you're making fun of me for expressing it (so obviously disagree), but giving no reason why and making no argument at all.

[876Stephen]

The problem with curry is what happens when he gets guarded at the 3....i mean the saying live and die by the three wasn't created out of nowhere......Memphis played it right the first few games....a better team will expose it tho....

This isn't a better defense left in the playoffs than Memphis(golden state maybe) and Curry destroyed them, most of that series.

Believe me, if the Warriors make the finals, they will trounce whoever they face, whether it's the Cavs or Hawks. You cant take that shit to the bank.

[rileymartin]

Lebron shot .001% better from the field despite shooting over 300 less threes, you're really starting to come off as a homer.

Curry had a great season.

It would still fall behind 10 of LeBron's seasons despite the shooting percentages.

Cool, relevancy? Maybe .1/10

the relevance is that Curry's best season doesn't even crack LeBron's top 10. He has a long way to go before we start ranking him ahead of LeBron.
We get it. Curry arguably had better stats than LeBron this year. LeBron is still the better offensive player, and he has proven that over the long haul.

[rtiff68]

Based on these silly homers arguments, I guess Curry is a better offensive player than Jordan, Kobe, Shaq, and many others since he is such a great 3 point shooter.

Straw man #7.

After taking a break for a few pages, you've now created straw men in back to back posts.

Way to go!

[rileymartin]

You see riley, that's how arguments work. You explain your reasoning (which I did pages ago) in detail, and then you back up said reasoning with objective data (statistics, in this case).

Here's how arguments don't work: creating straw men-- i.e. things that individual you're conversing with never said (I think counted at least 5 by you in this thread, and I've repeated them multiple times), responding simply by saying "lol," and writing wildly inaccurate summaries of events.

What's next up for rileymartin, revisionist historian, by the way?

-"How the Germans and the Japanese won World War 2?"

-"How Mitt Romney defeated Barack Obama in the last presidential election?"

-"How LeBron James re-signed with the Miami Heat last offseason and lead them to their 5th straight ECF?"

Just curious. After this thread, I doubt your reading comprehension but I don't doubt your creativity.

Sorry dude, but the only thing you can give is your opinion. there is simply no definitive way to prove who's presence on the court makes a bigger difference lol.
You can say Curry might spread the floor a little better than LeBron with his shooting, but LeBron draws a shit load of defenders too.

Refer back to my "straw men" comment, bro.

When did I ever say it wasn't debatable? When did I ever say it wasn't my opinion?

Of course it's an opinion, and there's no way to prove it definitively! What does that have to do anything?

You responded to my opinion/argument with nothing but "lol;" in short, you're making fun of me for expressing it (so obviously disagree), but giving no reason why and making no argument at all.

Wrong dude. You just said you backed that argument up with facts. No you didn't. you backed it up with your biased opinion.

[Thedictator]

Lebron shot .001% better from the field despite shooting over 300 less threes, you're really starting to come off as a homer.

This was sorta an off year for lebron if you can call it that...his numbers are much much more dominate if you take a look over the last few years

THATS NOT THE ARGUMENT holy shit you guys

I was also basing my argument that lebron is better offensively this year, i was just throwing in that he was also better the last few seasons by even more....he dominates the other team...and that is including this year

[wailuaFC]

Curry had a great season.

It would still fall behind 10 of LeBron's seasons despite the shooting percentages.

Cool, relevancy? Maybe .1/10

the relevance is that Curry's best season doesn't even crack LeBron's top 10. He has a long way to go before we start ranking him ahead of LeBron.
We get it. Curry arguably had better stats than LeBron this year. LeBron is still the better offensive player, and he has proven that over the long haul.

The past has nothing to do with who is currently better.

[rileymartin]

Based on these silly homers arguments, I guess Curry is a better offensive player than Jordan, Kobe, Shaq, and many others since he is such a great 3 point shooter.

Straw man #7.

After taking a break for a few pages, you've now created straw men in back to back posts.

Way to go!

You can dance all you want, but I will ask you again. do you agree with this statement...

Curry had a better season statistically, but LeBron is still the better offensive player...

Let me guess...you are STILL afraid to answer that question lol...

Keep defecting.

[rileymartin]

Cool, relevancy? Maybe .1/10

the relevance is that Curry's best season doesn't even crack LeBron's top 10. He has a long way to go before we start ranking him ahead of LeBron.
We get it. Curry arguably had better stats than LeBron this year. LeBron is still the better offensive player, and he has proven that over the long haul.

The past has nothing to do with who is currently better.

Currently, LeBron is still a better offensive player than Curry.

[wailuaFC]

This was sorta an off year for lebron if you can call it that...his numbers are much much more dominate if you take a look over the last few years

THATS NOT THE ARGUMENT holy shit you guys

I was also basing my argument that lebron is better offensively this year, i was just throwing in that he was also better the last few seasons by even more....he dominates the other team...and that is including this year

Can you back that up? So far you've tried lebron shot better from the field and lebron used to be better, do you have any actual statistical arguments?