Curry is in another realm as a scorer...

[elmouse03]

That... Or because they also have 2 top 10 scorers and the (statistically) best defender in the league.

Best defender is Draymond Green? Iguodala?

Draymond.


That's just one stat. Last I checked he lead in a few others.

Draymond is certainly having a breakout season.

[876Stephen]

Oh. Well I looked them up and Westbrook is averaging 8.1 to Curry's 7.9.

Westbrook imo has always been an underrated playmaker.

Really can't go wrong with either one but I don't think Curry has the green light that Westbrook currently has in terms of scoring.

which is why the Warriors have the best record in the NBA.

That... Or because they also have 2 top 10 scorers and the (statistically) best defender in the league.

Warriors have the worst offense in the NBA when curry isn't on the court.

[Y2K]

Which is what i said all along. Harden scores more points than Curry so he's a better scorer? Whoever scores more points is the better scorer correct?

So you agree that Allen Iverson is one of the best scorers ever, correct? Im sure the same people that pimp Westbrook hate Iverson for doing pretty much the same thing but under different circumstances.

Iverson has a 26.7 career scoring average and that's including his time spent in Detroit and Memphis when he was scoring like 12 a game.

Harden is the better scorer because he has the ability to score more and scores more than Curry.

And you don't think Curry has the ability to score more than Harden if given the same oppurtunities that Harden is given?

No. He's not good enough. He's smaller, slower and weaker. He isn't the athlete that Harden is nor as crafty.

[Max]

Best defender is Draymond Green? Iguodala?

Draymond.


That's just one stat. Last I checked he lead in a few others.

Draymond is certainly having a breakout season.

He gonna get paid!

Couldn't happen to a better guy.

[876Stephen]

876Stephen does seem to have a little boner for Curry.

harden > westbrook > curry

Warriors are probably not gonna end the season with the 1 seed. They had an easy schedule early on which created all the curry hype.

There schedule actually gets easier from her on out. Lots of home games.

[elmouse03]

Draymond.


That's just one stat. Last I checked he lead in a few others.

Draymond is certainly having a breakout season.

He gonna get paid!

Couldn't happen to a better guy.

Him and DeAndre Jordan were 2nd round picks. Lots of steals from past drafts are having breakout season's this year.

[876Stephen]

Harden is the better scorer because he has the ability to score more and scores more than Curry.

And you don't think Curry has the ability to score more than Harden if given the same oppurtunities that Harden is given?

No. He's not good enough. He's smaller, slower and weaker. He isn't the athlete that Harden is nor as crafty.

You do realize he's only scoring about three less points than Harden right? Curry doesn't even need to shoot that much more in comparison to Harden to equal his scoring output without all the free throw attempts.

Your totally wrong.

[876Stephen]

Draymond is certainly having a breakout season.

He gonna get paid!

Couldn't happen to a better guy.

Him and DeAndre Jordan were 2nd round picks. Lots of steals from past drafts are having breakout season's this year.

I've advocated Draymond getting DPOY. He wont get it, but he deserves strong consideration.

[Max]

He gonna get paid!

Couldn't happen to a better guy.

Him and DeAndre Jordan were 2nd round picks. Lots of steals from past drafts are having breakout season's this year.

I've advocated Draymond getting DPOY. He wont get it, but he deserves strong consideration.

Why don't you think he'll get it?

I haven't checked the stats in a while. If they're somewhat similar, there's absolutely no reason he shouldn't get it.

[PhutureDynasty]

Which is what i said all along. Harden scores more points than Curry so he's a better scorer? Whoever scores more points is the better scorer correct?

So you agree that Allen Iverson is one of the best scorers ever, correct? Im sure the same people that pimp Westbrook hate Iverson for doing pretty much the same thing but under different circumstances.

Iverson has a 26.7 career scoring average and that's including his time spent in Detroit and Memphis when he was scoring like 12 a game.

Iverson was a bit of a chucker, he scored a lot at a low FG% and while that is OK it doesn't mean he's one of the best scorers ever. FG% (maybe even TS%) as well as PPG is where one should look when comparing who is the better scorer. Harden has the better combination of the two.

Curry has a higher TS% than both Harden and Westbrook and Westbrook's case, a lot higher. Harden in no way has the better combination of the two. Harden only scores about 3 more ppp despite playing about 4 more minutes per game, 4.5 more free throws per game and 1 more shot per game.

If Harden was truly a better scorer, with all those advantages he has, he should be scoring closer to 32-33 ppt, not 27. Dont even get me started on Westbrook. He should be averaging like 35-40 points per game this season yet he can only manage 26.5.

What I was trying to say was Harden averages more points while having a good FG and TS%, not as much as Curry but not bad by any stretch.

So because Harden plays more minutes we should penalize him? I certainly don't think so.

Plus with all those extra minutes he averages only ONE shot more per game, that's not a huge disparity. Also, getting to the free throw line is a skill; basketball isn't some even playing field where everyone averages the same FT attempts per game. Harden puts himself in positions where players are more likely to foul him than Curry. That's not a knock on Curry, it's a compliment to Harden and his scoring ability.

I know Curry is your boy and you'll defend him tooth and nail but at the end of the day Harden averages more points per game, more points per shot, while shooting slightly worse FG and TS percentage wise. Harden is the better scorer.

[PhutureDynasty]

He gonna get paid!

Couldn't happen to a better guy.

Him and DeAndre Jordan were 2nd round picks. Lots of steals from past drafts are having breakout season's this year.

I've advocated Draymond getting DPOY. He wont get it, but he deserves strong consideration.

I realize it's Bleacher Report but they have him as the #1 midseason candidate for the award.

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[Y2K]

And you don't think Curry has the ability to score more than Harden if given the same oppurtunities that Harden is given?

No. He's not good enough. He's smaller, slower and weaker. He isn't the athlete that Harden is nor as crafty.

You do realize he's only scoring about three less points than Harden right? Curry doesn't even need to shoot that much more in comparison to Harden to equal his scoring output without all the free throw attempts.

Your totally wrong.

No, YOU are. You fail to grasp the point that: There's a reason why Curry isn't getting the same opportunities. He doesn't have that type of ability. If he did, he'd be given those opportinities. He's a predominantly catch and shoot guy who is improving as an on-ball playmaker. 87% of his made FGs come from off-ball opportunities compared to Harden 64%. The guy who can create his own offense at a much better rate, draws fouls at a much better rate while scoring more ppg and still being efficient is the better scorer.

[876Stephen]

Him and DeAndre Jordan were 2nd round picks. Lots of steals from past drafts are having breakout season's this year.

I've advocated Draymond getting DPOY. He wont get it, but he deserves strong consideration.

Why don't you think he'll get it?

I haven't checked the stats in a while. If they're somewhat similar, there's absolutely no reason he shouldn't get it.

Draymond isn't nearly popular enough to win a major award like that. His defensive impact goes beyond numbers but you would only know that if you watch the Warriors often like I do.

It sucks but it is what is.

[876Stephen]

No. He's not good enough. He's smaller, slower and weaker. He isn't the athlete that Harden is nor as crafty.

You do realize he's only scoring about three less points than Harden right? Curry doesn't even need to shoot that much more in comparison to Harden to equal his scoring output without all the free throw attempts.

Your totally wrong.

No, YOU are. You fail to grasp the point that: There's a reason why Curry isn't getting the same opportunities. He doesn't have that type of ability. If he did, he'd be given those opportinities. He's a predominantly catch and shoot guy who is improving as an on-ball playmaker. 87% of his made FGs come from off-ball opportunities compared to Harden 64%. The guy who can create his own offense at a much better rate, draws fouls at a much better rate while scoring more ppg and still being efficient is the better scorer.

Where does that stat come from? Because Curry creates a majority of his own offense.

[Max]

876Stephen raped in this thread

"another realm"

He could've said 'shooter' and there wouldn't have been much of a debate.

[kobeunderbite]

Lol another realm is pretty funny

Is the ***** in Asgard?

[Olaf]

LMFAO.

876Stephen is a delusional fuck.

I guess being a KKK member really makes you delusional.

[TheSaboteur]

I was thinking the same thing about Curry, to be honest. He's averaging 23.6ppg 7.9apg. I mean I get that you're a huge fan, but those aren't "oh my god how amazing!" type stats. He's a borderline superstar, if at all.

Your not alone, every one is fascinated by Westbrook while Curry generally gets overlooked which is why he one of the most underrated players in the NBA.

His stats amazing because he's putting up these numbers without having the ball in his hands much unlike Harden and Westbrook while playing limited minutes for a superstar and a usage that isn't even close to either of those players.

Second the difference between the Warriors offense when Curry is and isn't on the court is insane. They have the best offense in the NBA when he plays and the worst when he doesn't. His impact offensively far exceeds that of a Westbrook or Harden.

Thirdly he's the best player on 46-11 basketball team.

Finally ala Tim Duncan he sacrifices personal stats for the betterment of the team.

The thing about Curry is that he's a far better catch and shoot player than he is at any other facet of offense. Usually those type of players aren't held to the highest standard because they don't draw high frequency of fouls and don't command the highest level of attention in an opposing team's defensive game plan. they rely on their teammates to create scoring chances for them a bit more than the other two guys in this conversation.

How come everyone ignored this ridiculous post? Where is l3bron? I have only watched one Warriors game this season, so I can't really comment, but unless something has changed since previous seasons, everything in the above post is completely wrong.

[LNS]

lol Saboteur in here crying for l3bron's transvestite ass to come argue his points for him!

[Y2K]

Your not alone, every one is fascinated by Westbrook while Curry generally gets overlooked which is why he one of the most underrated players in the NBA.

His stats amazing because he's putting up these numbers without having the ball in his hands much unlike Harden and Westbrook while playing limited minutes for a superstar and a usage that isn't even close to either of those players.

Second the difference between the Warriors offense when Curry is and isn't on the court is insane. They have the best offense in the NBA when he plays and the worst when he doesn't. His impact offensively far exceeds that of a Westbrook or Harden.

Thirdly he's the best player on 46-11 basketball team.

Finally ala Tim Duncan he sacrifices personal stats for the betterment of the team.

The thing about Curry is that he's a far better catch and shoot player than he is at any other facet of offense. Usually those type of players aren't held to the highest standard because they don't draw high frequency of fouls and don't command the highest level of attention in an opposing team's defensive game plan. they rely on their teammates to create scoring chances for then a bit more than a the other two guys in this conversation.

How come everyone ignored this ridiculous post? Where is l3bron? I have only watched one Warriors game this season, so I can't really comment, but unless something has changed since previous seasons, everything in the above post is completely wrong.

Then why did you comment if "you really can't comment" is my question?