2014 Anger General Geatest of All Time: #25 selection

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americaninfidel wrote:
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Oh screw it. I change my vote to DRob.
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PhutureDynasty wrote:
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PhutureDynasty wrote:Gotta give it to Pippen.
Pippens not in the running I wish you all would stop saying that.

Worthy is ranked higher than Pippen

Worthy
3 time Champ
Finals MVP (88)
All NB 3rd team 2 times

Career
17.6ppg
5 rpg
.521 FG%

Playoffs
21 ppg
5 rpg
.544 FG%

7 straight seasons of 19ppg

Pippen
6 time champ
7 year All D first team
All NBA 7 times

Career

16 ppg
6 rpg
.473 %

Playoffs
17 ppg
7 rpg
.444%

5 straight years of 19ppg a year
Nominate Worthy and Durant first, then vote for them.

I also disagree about Worthy being ranked higher than Pip. That's a close argument too but Pippen shouldn't get the short end of the stick simply because he played next to Jordan, like Worthy shouldn't for playing with Kareem and Magic. The guy was a defensive STOPPER.

Hate to make the "MORE RINGZ!!!" argument but Pippen doubles his total in that regard as well. Sure he doesn't have a finals MVP but IMO 6 rings as a top 2 player trumps 3 rings as a top 2-3 player and 1 finals MVP. Even with the stats you posted, nothing screams in either players favor.
Is college career to be considered as well? Worthy had a good resume there. Albeit Pippen didn't really go to a blue blood school.

I don't really feel strongly that Worthy is better, just that Pip is not top 25 all time.
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Wishbone wrote:
PhutureDynasty wrote:
Wishbone wrote:
Pippens not in the running I wish you all would stop saying that.

Worthy is ranked higher than Pippen

Worthy
3 time Champ
Finals MVP (88)
All NB 3rd team 2 times

Career
17.6ppg
5 rpg
.521 FG%

Playoffs
21 ppg
5 rpg
.544 FG%

7 straight seasons of 19ppg

Pippen
6 time champ
7 year All D first team
All NBA 7 times

Career

16 ppg
6 rpg
.473 %

Playoffs
17 ppg
7 rpg
.444%

5 straight years of 19ppg a year
Nominate Worthy and Durant first, then vote for them.

I also disagree about Worthy being ranked higher than Pip. That's a close argument too but Pippen shouldn't get the short end of the stick simply because he played next to Jordan, like Worthy shouldn't for playing with Kareem and Magic. The guy was a defensive STOPPER.

Hate to make the "MORE RINGZ!!!" argument but Pippen doubles his total in that regard as well. Sure he doesn't have a finals MVP but IMO 6 rings as a top 2 player trumps 3 rings as a top 2-3 player and 1 finals MVP. Even with the stats you posted, nothing screams in either players favor.
Is college career to be considered as well? Worthy had a good resume there. Albeit Pippen didn't really go to a blue blood school.

I don't really feel strongly that Worthy is better, just that Pip is not top 25 all time.
Fair enough, lots of posters have voted to keep players from getting into spots they don't agree with. I'm also the only vote for Pippen at the moment so you might not have to worry about it.
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Wishbone wrote:Does everyone agree that it is too soon to add Durant?

Reggie fuckin miller better not get voted in before Durant, I'll say that right now.
Too soon for me but his time is coming in the 30s or 40s, if we go that high.
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What do you guys think about a James Worthy nomination?
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Pippen. 6 Robin rings and iirc, he came in 25 at the epic espn thread a few years ago.
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D rob sucked in the playoffs until timmy came along to lead the way
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Odogg wrote:Pippen. 6 Robin rings and iirc, he came in 25 at the epic espn thread a few years ago.

Be honest, do you really think had Pippen not played with Jordan he would be an NBA caliber player?

His years without Jordan suggest not.
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Zeke.
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Wishbone wrote:
Odogg wrote:Pippen. 6 Robin rings and iirc, he came in 25 at the epic espn thread a few years ago.

Be honest, do you really think had Pippen not played with Jordan he would be an NBA caliber player?

His years without Jordan suggest not.
He was old in 99 and later.
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David Robinson


But there are several worthy guys...

Pippen
Barry
Cousy
Thomas
Stockton

Probably in that order...
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Odogg wrote:
Wishbone wrote:
Odogg wrote:Pippen. 6 Robin rings and iirc, he came in 25 at the epic espn thread a few years ago.

Be honest, do you really think had Pippen not played with Jordan he would be an NBA caliber player?

His years without Jordan suggest not.
He was old in 99 and later.

He simply benefited from playing with Jordan and the triangle. He never really stepped up his game in the playoffs, never outplayed Jordan. Worthy turned it up a notch in the playoffs and once surpassed his batman.

Pippen is highly overrated.
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Wishbone wrote:
Odogg wrote:
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Be honest, do you really think had Pippen not played with Jordan he would be an NBA caliber player?

His years without Jordan suggest not.
He was old in 99 and later.

He simply benefited from playing with Jordan and the triangle. He never really stepped up his game in the playoffs, never outplayed Jordan. Worthy turned it up a notch in the playoffs and once surpassed his batman.

Pippen is highly overrated.
Got to agree with this. Pippen doesn't belong anywhere near this spot.

He's not going to find much support in this poll right now either. Most of the bulls babies are too busy crying about being persecuted to participate.
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PhutureDynasty wrote:What do you guys think about a James Worthy nomination?
I would say we're getting to the range where Worthy deserves some consideration.
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What about Nique?
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I'll nominate Big Game James Worthy.
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Pippen would definitely be a worthy candidate here. Guys suggesting otherwise are full of shit and trying to be clever.

Having said that, I will go with Drob to ensure Zeke is not selected.
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Wishbone wrote:
Odogg wrote:
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Be honest, do you really think had Pippen not played with Jordan he would be an NBA caliber player?

His years without Jordan suggest not.
He was old in 99 and later.

He simply benefited from playing with Jordan and the triangle. He never really stepped up his game in the playoffs, never outplayed Jordan. Worthy turned it up a notch in the playoffs and once surpassed his batman.

Pippen is highly overrated.

You should go back and revisit the 1993 ECF. Pippen clearly outplayed Jordan. Pip made big play after big play all series long, while MJ struggled outside of games 4 and 5.
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