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Oh screw it. I change my vote to DRob.
2014 Anger General Geatest of All Time: #25 selection
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Is college career to be considered as well? Worthy had a good resume there. Albeit Pippen didn't really go to a blue blood school.PhutureDynasty wrote:Nominate Worthy and Durant first, then vote for them.Wishbone wrote:Pippens not in the running I wish you all would stop saying that.PhutureDynasty wrote:Gotta give it to Pippen.
Worthy is ranked higher than Pippen
Worthy
3 time Champ
Finals MVP (88)
All NB 3rd team 2 times
Career
17.6ppg
5 rpg
.521 FG%
Playoffs
21 ppg
5 rpg
.544 FG%
7 straight seasons of 19ppg
Pippen
6 time champ
7 year All D first team
All NBA 7 times
Career
16 ppg
6 rpg
.473 %
Playoffs
17 ppg
7 rpg
.444%
5 straight years of 19ppg a year
I also disagree about Worthy being ranked higher than Pip. That's a close argument too but Pippen shouldn't get the short end of the stick simply because he played next to Jordan, like Worthy shouldn't for playing with Kareem and Magic. The guy was a defensive STOPPER.
Hate to make the "MORE RINGZ!!!" argument but Pippen doubles his total in that regard as well. Sure he doesn't have a finals MVP but IMO 6 rings as a top 2 player trumps 3 rings as a top 2-3 player and 1 finals MVP. Even with the stats you posted, nothing screams in either players favor.
I don't really feel strongly that Worthy is better, just that Pip is not top 25 all time.
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Fair enough, lots of posters have voted to keep players from getting into spots they don't agree with. I'm also the only vote for Pippen at the moment so you might not have to worry about it.Wishbone wrote:Is college career to be considered as well? Worthy had a good resume there. Albeit Pippen didn't really go to a blue blood school.PhutureDynasty wrote:Nominate Worthy and Durant first, then vote for them.Wishbone wrote:
Pippens not in the running I wish you all would stop saying that.
Worthy is ranked higher than Pippen
Worthy
3 time Champ
Finals MVP (88)
All NB 3rd team 2 times
Career
17.6ppg
5 rpg
.521 FG%
Playoffs
21 ppg
5 rpg
.544 FG%
7 straight seasons of 19ppg
Pippen
6 time champ
7 year All D first team
All NBA 7 times
Career
16 ppg
6 rpg
.473 %
Playoffs
17 ppg
7 rpg
.444%
5 straight years of 19ppg a year
I also disagree about Worthy being ranked higher than Pip. That's a close argument too but Pippen shouldn't get the short end of the stick simply because he played next to Jordan, like Worthy shouldn't for playing with Kareem and Magic. The guy was a defensive STOPPER.
Hate to make the "MORE RINGZ!!!" argument but Pippen doubles his total in that regard as well. Sure he doesn't have a finals MVP but IMO 6 rings as a top 2 player trumps 3 rings as a top 2-3 player and 1 finals MVP. Even with the stats you posted, nothing screams in either players favor.
I don't really feel strongly that Worthy is better, just that Pip is not top 25 all time.
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Too soon for me but his time is coming in the 30s or 40s, if we go that high.Wishbone wrote:Does everyone agree that it is too soon to add Durant?
Reggie fuckin miller better not get voted in before Durant, I'll say that right now.
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What do you guys think about a James Worthy nomination?
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Pippen. 6 Robin rings and iirc, he came in 25 at the epic espn thread a few years ago.
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D rob sucked in the playoffs until timmy came along to lead the way
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Odogg wrote:Pippen. 6 Robin rings and iirc, he came in 25 at the epic espn thread a few years ago.
Be honest, do you really think had Pippen not played with Jordan he would be an NBA caliber player?
His years without Jordan suggest not.
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He was old in 99 and later.Wishbone wrote:Odogg wrote:Pippen. 6 Robin rings and iirc, he came in 25 at the epic espn thread a few years ago.
Be honest, do you really think had Pippen not played with Jordan he would be an NBA caliber player?
His years without Jordan suggest not.
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David Robinson
But there are several worthy guys...
Pippen
Barry
Cousy
Thomas
Stockton
Probably in that order...
But there are several worthy guys...
Pippen
Barry
Cousy
Thomas
Stockton
Probably in that order...
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Re: 2014 Anger General Geatest of All Time: #25 selection
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Odogg wrote:He was old in 99 and later.Wishbone wrote:Odogg wrote:Pippen. 6 Robin rings and iirc, he came in 25 at the epic espn thread a few years ago.
Be honest, do you really think had Pippen not played with Jordan he would be an NBA caliber player?
His years without Jordan suggest not.
He simply benefited from playing with Jordan and the triangle. He never really stepped up his game in the playoffs, never outplayed Jordan. Worthy turned it up a notch in the playoffs and once surpassed his batman.
Pippen is highly overrated.
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Got to agree with this. Pippen doesn't belong anywhere near this spot.Wishbone wrote:Odogg wrote:He was old in 99 and later.Wishbone wrote:
Be honest, do you really think had Pippen not played with Jordan he would be an NBA caliber player?
His years without Jordan suggest not.
He simply benefited from playing with Jordan and the triangle. He never really stepped up his game in the playoffs, never outplayed Jordan. Worthy turned it up a notch in the playoffs and once surpassed his batman.
Pippen is highly overrated.
He's not going to find much support in this poll right now either. Most of the bulls babies are too busy crying about being persecuted to participate.
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I would say we're getting to the range where Worthy deserves some consideration.PhutureDynasty wrote:What do you guys think about a James Worthy nomination?
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What about Nique?
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I'll nominate Big Game James Worthy.
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Pippen would definitely be a worthy candidate here. Guys suggesting otherwise are full of shit and trying to be clever.
Having said that, I will go with Drob to ensure Zeke is not selected.
Having said that, I will go with Drob to ensure Zeke is not selected.
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Wishbone wrote:Odogg wrote:He was old in 99 and later.Wishbone wrote:
Be honest, do you really think had Pippen not played with Jordan he would be an NBA caliber player?
His years without Jordan suggest not.
He simply benefited from playing with Jordan and the triangle. He never really stepped up his game in the playoffs, never outplayed Jordan. Worthy turned it up a notch in the playoffs and once surpassed his batman.
Pippen is highly overrated.
You should go back and revisit the 1993 ECF. Pippen clearly outplayed Jordan. Pip made big play after big play all series long, while MJ struggled outside of games 4 and 5.
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