2014 Anger General Geatest of All Time: #24 selection

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AbeVigodaLive wrote:
He lost in the 2nd round. Bottom line. We aren't holding anybody back for winning because of bad calls. So we can't give extra credit for guys on the other end of bad calls.
It's about appreciating gradients in performance and accomplishment. Reducing it to "second round KO" is a little bit strange, when there is a lot of variance in what that could constitute.

There is a quantitative and qualitative difference between losing in a Game 7 by a whistle, and getting swept.

Similarly, there is a quantitative and qualitative difference between losing to a team that lost the title by a fingertip, and losing to a generic 3rd seed who gets handled in the Conference Finals.

That isn't to say Pippen didn't mess up along the way, the Kukoc thing being the most obvious (also, being spotty offensively at bad times hurt the Bulls---this is where Jordan's absence was most felt that year IMO).

[Note: I think the Bulls would have gotten their ass kicked by the Rockets, so I am definitely not giving him a title mentally.]

I guess what I am saying is that while we can only observe and judge this universe of events and what actually happened, it isn't *that* hard to envision a situation where Pippen is winning a MVP or title as a lead dog. I mean, in his first time out...he did pretty darn well.
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Robceltsfan wrote:
No, it's not *that* unlikely, but I don't think it happens. He simply wasn't enough of an offensive threat.
I think that is relatively fair. He definitely didn't have the scoring ability quite on the level of a traditional wing MVP.
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Bush4Ever wrote:
Robceltsfan wrote:
No, it's not *that* unlikely, but I don't think it happens. He simply wasn't enough of an offensive threat.
I think that is relatively fair. He definitely didn't have the scoring ability quite on the level of a traditional wing MVP.
He's like Hondo, but without the FMVP.
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y2ktors wrote:
Bush4Ever wrote:
Robceltsfan wrote:
No, it's not *that* unlikely, but I don't think it happens. He simply wasn't enough of an offensive threat.
I think that is relatively fair. He definitely didn't have the scoring ability quite on the level of a traditional wing MVP.
He's like Hondo, but without the FMVP.

To be fair, Hondo averaged 29 points one season... 28 another season.
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AbeVigodaLive wrote:
y2ktors wrote:
Bush4Ever wrote:
I think that is relatively fair. He definitely didn't have the scoring ability quite on the level of a traditional wing MVP.
He's like Hondo, but without the FMVP.

To be fair, Hondo averaged 29 points one season... 28 another season.
Hondo had a stretch from 70-74 in which he averaged 25.4ppg. From 66-74 in the playoffs he averaged 25.7ppg
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AbeVigodaLive wrote:
y2ktors wrote:
Bush4Ever wrote:
I think that is relatively fair. He definitely didn't have the scoring ability quite on the level of a traditional wing MVP.
He's like Hondo, but without the FMVP.

To be fair, Hondo averaged 29 points one season... 28 another season.
Not the scorer Hondo was but overall a little more versatile, and while Hondo was also a great defender, Pippen is arguably the greatest wing defender ever.
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Voting for this round closes at 6 pm CST.
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We need to knock a day off of the typical voting time, this is moving too slowly.
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Kobeunderbite wrote:We need to knock a day off of the typical voting time, this is moving too slowly.
Things will pick up. I was out of town most of the day. My intent was to start on it this morning but there was a situation on the board that needed to be addressed.
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isn't this supposed to be finished?
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elmouse03 wrote:isn't this supposed to be finished?
Yep. Been addressing other things on here, whilst playing around with the little fella.
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