How Many Pts Would Jordan Average In Today's Eastern Conf?

[Deez]

What's not debatable is that all LeBron and Kobe fans absolutely despise Michael Jordan -- so they will say whatever it takes to put their current boy on a higher pedestal.

True. But Jordan, Kobe, and Lebron's names are all interchangeable in that sentence.

Yeah but neither has anything on Jordan to even argue

[zombiesonics]

What's not debatable is that all LeBron and Kobe fans absolutely despise Michael Jordan -- so they will say whatever it takes to put their current boy on a higher pedestal.

True. But Jordan, Kobe, and Lebron's names are all interchangeable in that sentence.

Yeah but neither has anything on Jordan to even argue

Lebron does.

[Deez]

True. But Jordan, Kobe, and Lebron's names are all interchangeable in that sentence.

Yeah but neither has anything on Jordan to even argue

Lebron does.

Lol oh? Like 6 titles 6 finals MVPs 11 total MVPs perfect record in the NBA finals. 10 scoring titles. Dpoy etc.

[Repeat3peat]

The fact that someone will sit there and "honestly" confuse pace with "defensive toughness" is astounding to me...What pace did MJ's Bulls play at compared to the rest of the league btw...?Since we are talking about what a specific individual may or may not be able to "achieve" ubnder different circumstances....

Also, how difficult it was for "teams" to score isn't the issue....It's how difficult it was for "MJ" or "wing players" to score by comparison, then to now....again, we are talking about a specific type of player that the rules have changed to pamper...."league totals" are irrelevant.

[thedangerouskitchen]

If perimeter / wing players today can average 7-10 FTA per game while attempting only 15-18 FGA, prime Jordan would go to the line 15 time a game (on 20-23 FGA) and average at least 35-40 PPG today.

[vcsgrizzfan]

Haven't read the thread.

I think in today's NBA, probably a tiny bit more than he did back in his day (talking about first 3 peat and younger MJ now). Defenses have adjusted to rule changes and refs are not calling the ticky tack stuff nearly as much as they did in the period from 2006 to 2010 or so.

The better question in my mind is what he would have scored in the 2006 to 2009/10 type of time frame. I think the younger MJ would have gotten 35 plus pretty routinely on really great shooting percentages. He had the game that was absolutely tailor made for how the game was being called at that point in time.

[FPL]

The correct answer is, however many he wants to, most likely. In the context of playing winning basketball, probably not as many. Still high-20s to low-30s (or higher), though.

[thedangerouskitchen]

Once you nut swingers stop drooling, keep in mind that you feel the way you do about Jordan because of the marketing.

He was not the GOAT. Its not debatable.

MJ's environment was a product of him......KoMe and Bronze are products of their environment.

Where was Nike before MJ...? Suckin high tail tit to Converse AND addidas if I recall.

lol

EXACTLY... kids today have no clue.

Nike was a fledgling company when Jordan chose to endorse their shoe. MJ "made" Nike, not the other way around.

[Repeat3peat]

Haven't read the thread.

I think in today's NBA, probably a tiny bit more than he did back in his day (talking about first 3 peat and younger MJ now). Defenses have adjusted to rule changes and refs are not calling the ticky tack stuff nearly as much as they did in the period from 2006 to 2010 or so.

The better question in my mind is what he would have scored in the 2006 to 2009/10 type of time frame. I think the younger MJ would have gotten 35 plus pretty routinely on really great shooting percentages. He had the game that was absolutely tailor made for how the game was being called at that point in time.

Here here.

[Da Stars.]

Once you nut swingers stop drooling, keep in mind that you feel the way you do about Jordan because of the marketing.

He was not the GOAT. Its not debatable.

MJ's environment was a product of him......KoMe and Bronze are products of their environment.

Where was Nike before MJ...? Suckin high tail tit to Converse AND addidas if I recall.

lol

EXACTLY... kids today have no clue.

Nike was a fledgling company when Jordan chose to endorse their shoe. MJ "made" Nike, not the other way around.

But the best commercials were the McDonalds commercials with MJ and Bird. Made you want to eat a gross big mac.

[Bush4Ever]

In the context of winning games, I bet they would be about the same, just distributed differently. Especially in some past years, he would have feasted at the foul line.

There are some factors that would bump him up, but some others that would depress his scoring a bit IMO. I do think the average team is more advanced and purposeful these days than when Jordan played for example, but the game is probably called a little bit more generously on the wings than in his day. I don't know how exactly pace adjustments would work out.

I do think the people who say he would average 40 a game are on planet cuckoo, however. There is no chance of that taking place.

[Repeat3peat]

Once you nut swingers stop drooling, keep in mind that you feel the way you do about Jordan because of the marketing.

He was not the GOAT. Its not debatable.

MJ's environment was a product of him......KoMe and Bronze are products of their environment.

Where was Nike before MJ...? Suckin high tail tit to Converse AND addidas if I recall.

lol

EXACTLY... kids today have no clue.

Nike was a fledgling company when Jordan chose to endorse their shoe. MJ "made" Nike, not the other way around.

Bean juicers- People only think MJ is the GOAT/better than Kome because of all the excessive media coverage and over exposure.

LeDingleberries-People only think MJ is the GOAT/better than Bronze because their wasn't any media coverage over exposure when he played.

[Shill Jackson]

You got one thing right. Its not debatable however its that he is the Goat.

Sure it is.

Do you think he was suspended, or quit?

Suspended? Lmao. You aren't that dumb are you?

Notice-you didn't answer the question.

Based on your response, the logical conclusion is that you believe he QUIT.

Ps-
Nobody hates Jordan, just the hyperbole from the swingers.
and Nike was well established before Jordan, but he certainly did much to establish them on the BB court.

[Deez]

Sure it is.

Do you think he was suspended, or quit?

Suspended? Lmao. You aren't that dumb are you?

Notice-you didn't answer the question.

Based on your response, the logical conclusion is that you believe he QUIT.

Retired to play baseball after fathers death

[town bidness]

Lol troll troll troll your boat. No way you said that with a straight face. What a Jordan hater. Try a legit response for once

the sg position is vastly better. he wouldnt be getting d'ed up by the likes of ehlo and t.r. dunn anymore and defense schemes are much, much better.
he had no range wide open and he would have to shoot the three consistently in todays game.

25-27 ppg for a sg is bad now?

i dont hate jordan you putz, i like aggressive scoring wing players. i just know that he isnt the greatest player to date... or even #2.

it's not the end of the world.

Jordan put up 8-10 more than that in a better defensive era. You can't breathe on a player now. Softest era yet. He would eat these guys alive. He would get 10 a game on just free throws

what better defensive era and by what metric?

[town bidness]

Lol troll troll troll your boat. No way you said that with a straight face. What a Jordan hater. Try a legit response for once

the sg position is vastly better. he wouldnt be getting d'ed up by the likes of ehlo and t.r. dunn anymore and defense schemes are much, much better.
he had no range wide open and he would have to shoot the three consistently in todays game.

25-27 ppg for a sg is bad now?

i dont hate jordan you putz, i like aggressive scoring wing players. i just know that he isnt the greatest player to date... or even #2.

it's not the end of the world.

To be fair....He isn't just the greatest basketball player to date.....He is the greatest player in the history of all team sports...........and it's not close.

no that would my thy sweet lord kareem.

that is all.

lol.

[town bidness]

the sg position is vastly better. he wouldnt be getting d'ed up by the likes of ehlo and t.r. dunn anymore and defense schemes are much, much better.
he had no range wide open and he would have to shoot the three consistently in todays game.

25-27 ppg for a sg is bad now?

i dont hate jordan you putz, i like aggressive scoring wing players. i just know that he isnt the greatest player to date... or even #2.

it's not the end of the world.

To be fair....He isn't just the greatest basketball player to date.....He is the greatest player in the history in all of team sports...........and it's not close.

Town trolls a lot. MJ is the best. Its not debatable

i dont troll, i am just an independent thinker. i am a purveyor of truth.

[Deez]

the sg position is vastly better. he wouldnt be getting d'ed up by the likes of ehlo and t.r. dunn anymore and defense schemes are much, much better.
he had no range wide open and he would have to shoot the three consistently in todays game.

25-27 ppg for a sg is bad now?

i dont hate jordan you putz, i like aggressive scoring wing players. i just know that he isnt the greatest player to date... or even #2.

it's not the end of the world.

Jordan put up 8-10 more than that in a better defensive era. You can't breathe on a player now. Softest era yet. He would eat these guys alive. He would get 10 a game on just free throws

what better defensive era and by what metric?

The fact that they call it weaker now and protect wing players. Can't play defense today. No hand checking. Jordan would eat this soft league apart the way they call fouls. Its a fact

[Deez]

the sg position is vastly better. he wouldnt be getting d'ed up by the likes of ehlo and t.r. dunn anymore and defense schemes are much, much better.
he had no range wide open and he would have to shoot the three consistently in todays game.

25-27 ppg for a sg is bad now?

i dont hate jordan you putz, i like aggressive scoring wing players. i just know that he isnt the greatest player to date... or even #2.

it's not the end of the world.

To be fair....He isn't just the greatest basketball player to date.....He is the greatest player in the history of all team sports...........and it's not close.

no that would my thy sweet lord kareem.

that is all.

lol.

Lol nothing wrong with Kareem coming in 2nd behind Mj. Its only normal

[Master Spade]

In the context of winning games, I bet they would be about the same, just distributed differently. Especially in some past years, he would have feasted at the foul line.

There are some factors that would bump him up, but some others that would depress his scoring a bit IMO. I do think the average team is more advanced and purposeful these days than when Jordan played for example, but the game is probably called a little bit more generously on the wings than in his day. I don't know how exactly pace adjustments would work out.

I do think the people who say he would average 40 a game are on planet cuckoo, however. There is no chance of that taking place.

No chance!?? Jordan averaged over 37ppg in 87', yet you think that him averaging just 3 more ppg with all the foul shots he'd get, along with all the rules changes that would benefit him as a wing player is Crazy talk!??


No. It's not crazy talk. The Man who led the league in Scoring 10 times, and has the highest PPG in NBA History could, and would average a mere 3 ppg more in today's game.