My All-Time Starting 5 based on 5-year peak...

[thedangerouskitchen]

Since the merger... factoring in Regular Season, Playoffs and Finals success:

PG: Magic (84-88)
SG: Jordan (89-93)
SF: Bird (84-88)
PF: Duncan (01-05)
C: Dream (91-95)


I'd be shocked if anyone disagreed...

[kobeunderbite]

Magic 84-88
Kobe 05-09
LeBron 09-13
Garnett 01-05
O'Neal 99-03

[Robceltsfan]

PG: Magic 84-88
SG: Jordan 89-93
SF: Lebron 08-12
PF: Duncan 01-05
C: Wilt 60-64

[zombiesonics]

Magic ('85-'89)
Jordan ('89-'93)
Lebron ('09-13)
Duncan ('01-05)
Shaq ('98-'02)

[Ghostown42]

Since the merger... factoring in Regular Season, Playoffs and Finals success:

PG: Magic (84-88)
SG: Jordan (89-93)
SF: Bird (84-88)
PF: Duncan (01-05)
C: Dream (91-95)


I'd be shocked if anyone disagreed...

As much as I love Hakeem, I'd pick '71-'75 Kareem instead.

[thedangerouskitchen]

Magic 84-88
Kobe 05-09
LeBron 09-13
Garnett 01-05
O'Neal 99-03

How do you figure KG over Duncan when we're factoring in Regular Season, Playoffs and Finals success??

Also... Kobe over Jordan is a tuuuurrible troll attempt.

[thedangerouskitchen]

PG: Magic 84-88
SG: Jordan 89-93
SF: Lebron 08-12
PF: Duncan 01-05
C: Wilt 60-64

Since the merger... see OP

[kobeunderbite]

Magic 84-88
Kobe 05-09
LeBron 09-13
Garnett 01-05
O'Neal 99-03

ROFL... How do you figure KG over Duncan when we're factoring in Regular Season, Playoffs and Finals success??

Also... Kobe over Jordan is a tuuuurrible troll attempt.

One player isn't solely responsible for his teams success/failures.

[thedangerouskitchen]

Since the merger... factoring in Regular Season, Playoffs and Finals success:

PG: Magic (84-88)
SG: Jordan (89-93)
SF: Bird (84-88)
PF: Duncan (01-05)
C: Dream (91-95)


I'd be shocked if anyone disagreed...

As much as I love Hakeem, I'd pick '71-'75 Kareem instead.

Since the merger...

[thedangerouskitchen]

Magic 84-88
Kobe 05-09
LeBron 09-13
Garnett 01-05
O'Neal 99-03

ROFL... How do you figure KG over Duncan when we're factoring in Regular Season, Playoffs and Finals success??

Also... Kobe over Jordan is a tuuuurrible troll attempt.

One player isn't solely responsible for his teams success/failures.

Regardless... Duncan won 2 FMVP's and 2 regular season MVP's during the 5 year peak I listed. That trumps anything KG did circa 01-05 (and I'm a HUGE Garnett fan BTW).

[kobeunderbite]

ROFL... How do you figure KG over Duncan when we're factoring in Regular Season, Playoffs and Finals success??

Also... Kobe over Jordan is a tuuuurrible troll attempt.

One player isn't solely responsible for his teams success/failures.

Regardless... Duncan won 2 FMVP's and 2 regular season MVP's during the 5 year peak I listed. That's trumps anything KG did circa 01-05 (and I'm a HUGE Garnett fan BTW).

You're entitled to your opinion. Ultimately we will never know what Garnett could have done with those SA teams.

[thedangerouskitchen]

One player isn't solely responsible for his teams success/failures.

Regardless... Duncan won 2 FMVP's and 2 regular season MVP's during the 5 year peak I listed. That's trumps anything KG did circa 01-05 (and I'm a HUGE Garnett fan BTW).

You're entitled to your opinion. Ultimately we will never know what Garnett could have done with those SA teams.

You're right... but this ranking is based on what the player/s actually did accomplish, not "what if" scenarios.

[kobeunderbite]

Regardless... Duncan won 2 FMVP's and 2 regular season MVP's during the 5 year peak I listed. That's trumps anything KG did circa 01-05 (and I'm a HUGE Garnett fan BTW).

You're entitled to your opinion. Ultimately we will never know what Garnett could have done with those SA teams.

You're right... but this ranking is based on what the player/s actually did accomplish, not "what if" scenarios.

It's based on my opinion, not what the teams accomplished.

[FPL]

Is this meant to be the best players at each position, or the best team? If it's the former that's fine, if it's the latter, not enough touches to go around.

[thedangerouskitchen]

Is this meant to be the best players at each position, or the best team? If it's the former that's fine, if it's the latter, not enough touches to go around.

All Time Starting 5 = best players at each position (since the merger) based on their 5 year peak AND factoring in their RS, Playoffs and Finals success.

[FPL]

Is this meant to be the best players at each position, or the best team? If it's the former that's fine, if it's the latter, not enough touches to go around.

All Time Starting 5 = best players at each position (since the merger) based on their 5 year peak AND factoring in the ES, Playoffs and Finals.

I like Hakeem and have him ahead of Kareem for 1-, 2-, and 3-year peaks, but I think it's tough between he and Cap (77-81) if we're doing 5 years.

[thedangerouskitchen]

You're entitled to your opinion. Ultimately we will never know what Garnett could have done with those SA teams.

You're right... but this ranking is based on what the player/s actually did accomplish, not "what if" scenarios.

It's based on my opinion, not what the teams accomplished.

Then your opinion / post is disqualified because this thread clearly uses Playoffs / Finals success as part of the criteria.

That said, you ought to start a separate thread for guys like KG, Oscar, et al... ie; greatest individual players withOut the rings / awards.

[thedangerouskitchen]

Is this meant to be the best players at each position, or the best team? If it's the former that's fine, if it's the latter, not enough touches to go around.

All Time Starting 5 = best players at each position (since the merger) based on their 5 year peak AND factoring in the ES, Playoffs and Finals.

I like Hakeem and have him ahead of Kareem for 1-, 2-, and 3-year peaks, but I think it's tough between he and Cap (77-81) if we're doing 5 years.

Interesting pick... I went with 91-95 Dream because IMO he was a more dominating Defensive player (while right on par with 77-81 Jabbar Offensively), and because Olajuwon won 2 FMP's during that span.

That said, I wouldn't argue too much against your pick though... and obviously Shaq's 5 year run (with the 3-Peat years) is another legit choice; however I give Dream the edge because IMO he's the greatest 2-way Center ever.

[l3bron]

Why are we factoring their team success?

[FPL]

All Time Starting 5 = best players at each position (since the merger) based on their 5 year peak AND factoring in the ES, Playoffs and Finals.

I like Hakeem and have him ahead of Kareem for 1-, 2-, and 3-year peaks, but I think it's tough between he and Cap (77-81) if we're doing 5 years.

Interesting pick... I went with 91-95 Dream because IMO he was a more dominating Defensive player (while right on par with 77-81 Jabbar Offensively), and because Olajuwon won 2 FMP's during that span.

That said, I wouldn't argue too much against your pick though... and obviously Shaq's 5 year run (with the 3-Peat years) is another legit choice; however I give Dream the edge because IMO he's the greatest 2-way Center ever.

I might still go with Hakeem purely because I've seen more of him. I agree that he has a better case as a two-way center.

Kareem was actually a very good defender (particularly with the Bucks), but Hakeem has a case as the best non-Russell guy on that end. As you stated, he's probably the best two-way center as well (I think Wilt is the only other guy in the conversation, but he didn't really play offense and defense in the same season at the highest level).