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Madnessssss wrote:my sister has a pitt thats strong as hell......sweetest dog on earth. You could kick it in the head and it wouldn't fight back. Most pitts are great dogs.

Also had a tenant a few years back with a very sweet natured pure pitt.
Can't tell this board that. According to most here pits should be feared and euthanized
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Da Stars. wrote:4 stiches and 250 dollar vet bill. :cry:
Get well Macey. Just so we are clear, was that from the dog bite or you accidentally stabbing her?
Dog bite. Thanks for the well wishes for my dog.
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Da Stars. wrote:4 stiches and 250 dollar vet bill. :cry:
Get well Macey. Just so we are clear, was that from the dog bite or you accidentally stabbing her?
Dog bite. Thanks for the well wishes for my dog.
You deserve a beer after that one, glad both of you are ok
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Get well Macey. Just so we are clear, was that from the dog bite or you accidentally stabbing her?
Dog bite. Thanks for the well wishes for my dog.
You deserve a beer after that one, glad both of you are ok
Rattled my cage a lot last night. Neither of us slept worth a shit. Hell I don't even hunt.
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wailuaFC wrote:Good job protecting your dog stars, only you know the situation and Im sure you did the right thing. To the people saying no one should own pitbulls, should akitas, dachshunds, dobermans, chow chows, chihuahuas also die out because they average more attacks on other pets/humans then pits do. Just because they have the power and reputation to be the mean killing machines doesnt mean they all are. Just as is the same with a child, it all depends on the environment they are raised in.
The problem is the pitbulls strength. They are stronger pound for pound than the other breeds so that is why they can be more dangerous. That and they have a stubbornness that other dogs don't possess
This hits the key point. While it may be true WailuaFC that more chihuahuas attack people than pit bulls, the consequences of those attacks are generally de minimus. Pit bull attacks because of their incredible jaw strength and 'dogged' determination are often devastating.
I can completely agree with that. They aren't nearly the most aggressive breed, but when they do attack their power is undeniable. Pitbulls are very much part of our culture here, mostly because they are awesome hunting dogs, and so having grown up around them all my life I definitely have a soft spot for those big smiley destructive heads of theirs
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wailuaFC wrote:
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Dog bite. Thanks for the well wishes for my dog.
You deserve a beer after that one, glad both of you are ok
Rattled my cage a lot last night. Neither of us slept worth a shit. Hell I don't even hunt.
Oh definitely, I can't imagine what that must have been like. I hunt and dive, but having to knife an attacking dog is something I can't imagine doing.
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Hope the other dog owners took notice. If it ever comes down to where it's their canine friend or Macie...Macie wins
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technically, the pit owner is responsible for the vet bill


and sorry Stars
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..damn Stars, sorry that happened and most definitely glad everyone is ok...and I will say, you did the right thing without a doubt...there was fair warning, and that was ignored by a irresponsible owner, fuck him...

I see both sides here, infidel seems adamant about not wanting them around and that isn't the worse thing to believe...I also see people defending the breed, and that is fine too...

..Pits have and always will have the propensity to be aggressive, and that is the truth...that is the nature of the beast, so to speak...the fine line is drawn between responsible owners, and then everyone else...if you own a Pit, you best spend lots of time with them and teach them well...Rots are the same way...those who acquire them with having a " viable house protector" in mind should not own one as they are likely dopes...and then you have the classic "I want a badass dog" idiots...I would not be opposed to a screening process for those who want that type of dog, because I guarantee most would be turned down...
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jordanzone wrote:..damn Stars, sorry that happened and most definitely glad everyone is ok...and I will say, you did the right thing without a doubt...there was fair warning, and that was ignored by a irresponsible owner, fuck him...

I see both sides here, infidel seems adamant about not wanting them around and that isn't the worse thing to believe...I also see people defending the breed, and that is fine too...

..Pits have and always will have the propensity to be aggressive, and that is the truth...that is the nature of the beast, so to speak...the fine line is drawn between responsible owners, and then everyone else...if you own a Pit, you best spend lots of time with them and teach them well...Rots are the same way...those who acquire them with having a " viable house protector" in mind should not own one as they are likely dopes...and then you have the classic "I want a badass dog" idiots...I would not be opposed to a screening process for those who want that type of dog, because I guarantee most would be turned down...
As soon as stars said this dog had to be tased to be controlled and had a history of attacks you knew there was a high chance it was going to eventually maul a child. No dog should be running freely in the public either.

I like Pitts and no it's not the Pitts fault. The owner is a complete jackass and all honestly, should be jailed.
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jordanzone wrote:..damn Stars, sorry that happened and most definitely glad everyone is ok...and I will say, you did the right thing without a doubt...there was fair warning, and that was ignored by a irresponsible owner, fuck him...

I see both sides here, infidel seems adamant about not wanting them around and that isn't the worse thing to believe...I also see people defending the breed, and that is fine too...

..Pits have and always will have the propensity to be aggressive, and that is the truth...that is the nature of the beast, so to speak...the fine line is drawn between responsible owners, and then everyone else...if you own a Pit, you best spend lots of time with them and teach them well...Rots are the same way...those who acquire them with having a " viable house protector" in mind should not own one as they are likely dopes...and then you have the classic "I want a badass dog" idiots...I would not be opposed to a screening process for those who want that type of dog, because I guarantee most would be turned down...
Pits are as likely to be as aggressive as a golden lab is, it's just their reputation for destruction makes it seem more commonplace. I agree that it basically comes down to the owner, if you nurture and love a pit or a rottie, they will repay you by being awesome dogs like Rosie

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Titan18 wrote:
jordanzone wrote:..damn Stars, sorry that happened and most definitely glad everyone is ok...and I will say, you did the right thing without a doubt...there was fair warning, and that was ignored by a irresponsible owner, fuck him...

I see both sides here, infidel seems adamant about not wanting them around and that isn't the worse thing to believe...I also see people defending the breed, and that is fine too...

..Pits have and always will have the propensity to be aggressive, and that is the truth...that is the nature of the beast, so to speak...the fine line is drawn between responsible owners, and then everyone else...if you own a Pit, you best spend lots of time with them and teach them well...Rots are the same way...those who acquire them with having a " viable house protector" in mind should not own one as they are likely dopes...and then you have the classic "I want a badass dog" idiots...I would not be opposed to a screening process for those who want that type of dog, because I guarantee most would be turned down...
As soon as stars said this dog had to be tased to be controlled and had a history of attacks you knew there was a high chance it was going to eventually maul a child. No dog should be running freely in the public either.

I like Pitts and no it's not the Pitts fault. The owner is a complete jackass and all honestly, should be jailed.

..for sure...that guy in all likelihood fell into the "I want a badass dog" category, and I agree completely with what you said should happen...there are also circumstances where an owner gets a "bad seed" and at some point they have to realize that owning it could put others in danger, and should do the responsible thing and give it up...this owner may have just been a dope, but I don't know...either way, he was given warning...
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jordanzone wrote:..damn Stars, sorry that happened and most definitely glad everyone is ok...and I will say, you did the right thing without a doubt...there was fair warning, and that was ignored by a irresponsible owner, fuck him...

I see both sides here, infidel seems adamant about not wanting them around and that isn't the worse thing to believe...I also see people defending the breed, and that is fine too...

..Pits have and always will have the propensity to be aggressive, and that is the truth...that is the nature of the beast, so to speak...the fine line is drawn between responsible owners, and then everyone else...if you own a Pit, you best spend lots of time with them and teach them well...Rots are the same way...those who acquire them with having a " viable house protector" in mind should not own one as they are likely dopes...and then you have the classic "I want a badass dog" idiots...I would not be opposed to a screening process for those who want that type of dog, because I guarantee most would be turned down...
Not sure what else I could have done. 70 pounds of hell going after either my 18 pound dog or myself. This dog was off the fucking leash. Owner 3/4 of a block away.
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jordanzone wrote:..damn Stars, sorry that happened and most definitely glad everyone is ok...and I will say, you did the right thing without a doubt...there was fair warning, and that was ignored by a irresponsible owner, fuck him...

I see both sides here, infidel seems adamant about not wanting them around and that isn't the worse thing to believe...I also see people defending the breed, and that is fine too...

..Pits have and always will have the propensity to be aggressive, and that is the truth...that is the nature of the beast, so to speak...the fine line is drawn between responsible owners, and then everyone else...if you own a Pit, you best spend lots of time with them and teach them well...Rots are the same way...those who acquire them with having a " viable house protector" in mind should not own one as they are likely dopes...and then you have the classic "I want a badass dog" idiots...I would not be opposed to a screening process for those who want that type of dog, because I guarantee most would be turned down...
Pits are as likely to be as aggressive as a golden lab is, it's just their reputation for destruction makes it seem more commonplace. I agree that it basically comes down to the owner, if you nurture and love a pit or a rottie, they will repay you by being awesome dogs like Rosie

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Good looking pup FC. Looks like it could go a couple of round of tackle ball.
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wailuaFC wrote:
jordanzone wrote:..damn Stars, sorry that happened and most definitely glad everyone is ok...and I will say, you did the right thing without a doubt...there was fair warning, and that was ignored by a irresponsible owner, fuck him...

I see both sides here, infidel seems adamant about not wanting them around and that isn't the worse thing to believe...I also see people defending the breed, and that is fine too...

..Pits have and always will have the propensity to be aggressive, and that is the truth...that is the nature of the beast, so to speak...the fine line is drawn between responsible owners, and then everyone else...if you own a Pit, you best spend lots of time with them and teach them well...Rots are the same way...those who acquire them with having a " viable house protector" in mind should not own one as they are likely dopes...and then you have the classic "I want a badass dog" idiots...I would not be opposed to a screening process for those who want that type of dog, because I guarantee most would be turned down...
Pits are as likely to be as aggressive as a golden lab is, it's just their reputation for destruction makes it seem more commonplace. I agree that it basically comes down to the owner, if you nurture and love a pit or a rottie, they will repay you by being awesome dogs like Rosie

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..well, I'll start off by saying that is a cute dog you have, and knowing you on here you definitely fall into the responsible owner category...

..on the other hand, Pits and labs are far apart in the propensity effect...if you know the history of Pits, you would know why they came about...Pits can be tamed without a doubt, but I guarantee, for the most part, a Pit will take loads more time and patience than a lab will...the reputation of the pit bull came about because of the history of the dog and the incidents that ensued...
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Da Stars. wrote:
jordanzone wrote:..damn Stars, sorry that happened and most definitely glad everyone is ok...and I will say, you did the right thing without a doubt...there was fair warning, and that was ignored by a irresponsible owner, fuck him...

I see both sides here, infidel seems adamant about not wanting them around and that isn't the worse thing to believe...I also see people defending the breed, and that is fine too...

..Pits have and always will have the propensity to be aggressive, and that is the truth...that is the nature of the beast, so to speak...the fine line is drawn between responsible owners, and then everyone else...if you own a Pit, you best spend lots of time with them and teach them well...Rots are the same way...those who acquire them with having a " viable house protector" in mind should not own one as they are likely dopes...and then you have the classic "I want a badass dog" idiots...I would not be opposed to a screening process for those who want that type of dog, because I guarantee most would be turned down...
Not sure what else I could have done. 70 pounds of hell going after either my 18 pound dog or myself. This dog was off the fucking leash. Owner 3/4 of a block away.
..you sure don't have to explain yourself to me partner...I'm with you on this one...
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jordanzone wrote:
wailuaFC wrote:
jordanzone wrote:..damn Stars, sorry that happened and most definitely glad everyone is ok...and I will say, you did the right thing without a doubt...there was fair warning, and that was ignored by a irresponsible owner, fuck him...

I see both sides here, infidel seems adamant about not wanting them around and that isn't the worse thing to believe...I also see people defending the breed, and that is fine too...

..Pits have and always will have the propensity to be aggressive, and that is the truth...that is the nature of the beast, so to speak...the fine line is drawn between responsible owners, and then everyone else...if you own a Pit, you best spend lots of time with them and teach them well...Rots are the same way...those who acquire them with having a " viable house protector" in mind should not own one as they are likely dopes...and then you have the classic "I want a badass dog" idiots...I would not be opposed to a screening process for those who want that type of dog, because I guarantee most would be turned down...
Pits are as likely to be as aggressive as a golden lab is, it's just their reputation for destruction makes it seem more commonplace. I agree that it basically comes down to the owner, if you nurture and love a pit or a rottie, they will repay you by being awesome dogs like Rosie

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..well, I'll start off by saying that is a cute dog you have, and knowing you on here you definitely fall into the responsible owner category...

..on the other hand, Pits and labs are far apart in the propensity effect...if you know the history of Pits, you would know why they came about...Pits can be tamed without a doubt, but I guarantee, for the most part, a Pit will take loads more time and patience than a lab will...the reputation of the pit bull came about because of the history of the dog and the incidents that ensued...
If I'm not mistaken I believe both rotties and pits were bred to be butcher dogs (pulled around carts full of meat) which explains why both have very thick shoulders and are generally docked at the tail.
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Da Stars. wrote:
wailuaFC wrote:
jordanzone wrote:..damn Stars, sorry that happened and most definitely glad everyone is ok...and I will say, you did the right thing without a doubt...there was fair warning, and that was ignored by a irresponsible owner, fuck him...

I see both sides here, infidel seems adamant about not wanting them around and that isn't the worse thing to believe...I also see people defending the breed, and that is fine too...

..Pits have and always will have the propensity to be aggressive, and that is the truth...that is the nature of the beast, so to speak...the fine line is drawn between responsible owners, and then everyone else...if you own a Pit, you best spend lots of time with them and teach them well...Rots are the same way...those who acquire them with having a " viable house protector" in mind should not own one as they are likely dopes...and then you have the classic "I want a badass dog" idiots...I would not be opposed to a screening process for those who want that type of dog, because I guarantee most would be turned down...
Pits are as likely to be as aggressive as a golden lab is, it's just their reputation for destruction makes it seem more commonplace. I agree that it basically comes down to the owner, if you nurture and love a pit or a rottie, they will repay you by being awesome dogs like Rosie

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Good looking pup FC. Looks like it could go a couple of round of tackle ball.
I wish I could post pictures of our morning routine which involves me laying on the couch and her lying completely on top of me. I keep waiting for her to grow out of the habit but at 85 pounds and counting she still wants nothing more then to lay/sit on me
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wailuaFC wrote:
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wailuaFC wrote: Pits are as likely to be as aggressive as a golden lab is, it's just their reputation for destruction makes it seem more commonplace. I agree that it basically comes down to the owner, if you nurture and love a pit or a rottie, they will repay you by being awesome dogs like Rosie

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..well, I'll start off by saying that is a cute dog you have, and knowing you on here you definitely fall into the responsible owner category...

..on the other hand, Pits and labs are far apart in the propensity effect...if you know the history of Pits, you would know why they came about...Pits can be tamed without a doubt, but I guarantee, for the most part, a Pit will take loads more time and patience than a lab will...the reputation of the pit bull came about because of the history of the dog and the incidents that ensued...
If I'm not mistaken I believe both rotties and pits were bred to be butcher dogs (pulled around carts full of meat) which explains why both have very thick shoulders and are generally docked at the tail.
..they were originally used to hunt larger game and eventually used in blood sports, both reasons being the size/strength...what you said is true also, as they did serve a viable purpose...my thing is that these breeds most definitely have a higher propensity to turn and studies have shown this...now, that's not to say they shouldn't be owned, just that whoever decides to take on this breed best take the time to work with them, and as I said before, they should be screened...because we both know there are wayyyy too many irresponsible/lazy dog owners...
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Shill Jackson wrote:technically, the pit owner is responsible for the vet bill


and sorry Stars
CORRECT. Send him the bill. He is responsible for the injuries sustained to your dog. Again, surprised the police weren't called. Did the owner come and get the dog? Eeesh. Hope all is okay.
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