Kevin Garnett completely eviscerates the BWGC; confirming everything TDK has been saying about the Modern Era

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Kevin Garnett completely eviscerates the BWGC; confirming everything TDK has been saying about the Modern Era

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"20 years ago you couldn't get to a Triple Step Back. (20 years ago) it was too physical... and guess what: The league had to come off of it for the flow of movement to be able to have Scoring go up, which is why we like to sit here and watch kind of the rat race of the high Pace game."

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/OLdhzJFYI9Y

In other words the soft Style/Defense of today's Modern Era (due to the rule changes) leads to faster Pacing and more Spacing, which in turn makes it much EASIER for players to Dribble, Pass, Shoot and Score than it was 20-30 years ago. Thus, the inflated stats/scoring of today has nothing to do with the players being so much better (they're not), and everything to do with the league purposely making the game easier for the Offense.

This of course has been alluded to (earlier this year) by the NBA Commissioner, the NBA VP of Ops, many current players/coaches, Kevin Garnett, and yes, yours truly TDK, who all laugh at the couch-potato fans (ie; the BWGC) who ignore these intangibles and focus only on their graphs and charts and fake-stats as 'proof' of Modern Era superiority.

:lol: :roll: :L

Discuss how this epic ownage of the Modern Era makes you feel...
"Today's NBA is soft, the Defense is weak, and the rules 'really' favor the Offense."

"Lebron doesn’t guard for a full game and our game plan was to get him to play defense and he left me open all game."
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It's nonsense, just like all your hoops takes. There have been no material rule changes since 2006 enforcement of hand check rules, and that has long since been abandoned. If you watched, you'd know. KG just "muh era" nonsense.
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20 years ago LeGOAT was dropping 27/7/7 on KG's era at 20 years old.

20 years ago LeGOAT dropped 26/6.5/10 on KG's TEAM in 2 games.

:mjlaugh:
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LeBronMonsterDunk wrote: Fri Sep 27, 2024 11:40 am 20 years ago LeGOAT was dropping 27/7/7 on KG's era at 20 years old.

20 years ago LeGOAT dropped 26/6.5/10 on KG's TEAM in 2 games.

:mjlaugh:
If we are being honest, he's got it backwards. Half the guys from his best years would struggle to make a roster in today's NBA. So many bigs would have no hope guarding the screen and roll, and tons of wings who couldn't shoot the 3 would be superfluous.

KG himself would still be a great player, but his inability to make the 3 consistently would reduce his overall impact on the game relative to his peak in the league.
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“It’s disprectful to not have Lebron as the GOAT”

- Kevin Garnett



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_Vcsgrizzfan_ wrote: Fri Sep 27, 2024 11:30 am It's nonsense, just like all your hoops takes. There have been no material rule changes since 2006 enforcement of hand check rules, and that has long since been abandoned. If you watched, you'd know. KG just "muh era" nonsense.
It's not nonsense... you're just not an astute hoops fan and you have no clue.

I have the NBA Commissioner, the NBA VP of Ops, numerous (current) players and coaches and a boatload of former players and coaches who agree with my take.

You have charts and graphs and fake stats.

:lol: :roll: :L
"Today's NBA is soft, the Defense is weak, and the rules 'really' favor the Offense."

"Lebron doesn’t guard for a full game and our game plan was to get him to play defense and he left me open all game."
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thedangerouskitchen wrote: Fri Sep 27, 2024 3:00 pm
_Vcsgrizzfan_ wrote: Fri Sep 27, 2024 11:30 am It's nonsense, just like all your hoops takes. There have been no material rule changes since 2006 enforcement of hand check rules, and that has long since been abandoned. If you watched, you'd know. KG just "muh era" nonsense.
It's not nonsense... you're just not an astute hoops fan and you have no clue.

I have the NBA Commissioner, the NBA VP of Ops, numerous (current) players and coaches and a boatload of former players and coaches who agree with my take.

You have charts and graphs and fake stats.

:lol: :roll: :L
Baloney. You have appeal to authority and nothing else. You don't watch and you don't know. You're full of shit, and that's all she wrote.
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_Vcsgrizzfan_ wrote: Fri Sep 27, 2024 3:03 pm
thedangerouskitchen wrote: Fri Sep 27, 2024 3:00 pm
_Vcsgrizzfan_ wrote: Fri Sep 27, 2024 11:30 am It's nonsense, just like all your hoops takes. There have been no material rule changes since 2006 enforcement of hand check rules, and that has long since been abandoned. If you watched, you'd know. KG just "muh era" nonsense.
It's not nonsense... you're just not an astute hoops fan and you have no clue.

I have the NBA Commissioner, the NBA VP of Ops, numerous (current) players and coaches and a boatload of former players and coaches who agree with my take.

You have charts and graphs and fake stats.

:lol: :roll: :L
Baloney. You have appeal to authority and nothing else. You don't watch and you don't know. You're full of shit, and that's all she wrote.
But the NBA Commissioner, the NBA VP of Ops, as well as "current" and past players/coaches DO know... and by their OWN ADMISSION the rules/style was changed for the sole purpose of limiting the Physicality, so as to increase the Pace/Scoring of the game. Hell, even LeFraud James himself admitted that today's NBA is like playing in the All Star game (ie; very little Defense and wide-open/free-flowing Offense).

So what exactly makes you think your opinion is more credible, other than your inflated ego? Let me save you the trouble... it's you who is full of shit.
"Today's NBA is soft, the Defense is weak, and the rules 'really' favor the Offense."

"Lebron doesn’t guard for a full game and our game plan was to get him to play defense and he left me open all game."
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LeBronMonsterDunk wrote: Fri Sep 27, 2024 11:40 am 20 years ago LeGOAT was dropping 27/7/7 on KG's era at 20 years old.

20 years ago LeGOAT dropped 26/6.5/10 on KG's TEAM in 2 games.

:mjlaugh:
Your hero admitted that today's NBA is like the All Star game... ie; cream-puff Defense and free-flowing Offense.

LeOuuuchie.

:bronfrown:
"Today's NBA is soft, the Defense is weak, and the rules 'really' favor the Offense."

"Lebron doesn’t guard for a full game and our game plan was to get him to play defense and he left me open all game."
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thedangerouskitchen wrote: Sat Sep 28, 2024 9:09 am
LeBronMonsterDunk wrote: Fri Sep 27, 2024 11:40 am 20 years ago LeGOAT was dropping 27/7/7 on KG's era at 20 years old.

20 years ago LeGOAT dropped 26/6.5/10 on KG's TEAM in 2 games.

:mjlaugh:
Your hero admitted that today's NBA is like the All Star game... ie; cream-puff Defense and free-flowing Offense.

LeOuuuchie.

:bronfrown:
And he also said Lebron is the GOAT.
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ElJorge wrote: Sat Sep 28, 2024 9:29 am
thedangerouskitchen wrote: Sat Sep 28, 2024 9:09 am
LeBronMonsterDunk wrote: Fri Sep 27, 2024 11:40 am 20 years ago LeGOAT was dropping 27/7/7 on KG's era at 20 years old.

20 years ago LeGOAT dropped 26/6.5/10 on KG's TEAM in 2 games.

:mjlaugh:
Your hero admitted that today's NBA is like the All Star game... ie; cream-puff Defense and free-flowing Offense.

LeOuuuchie.

:bronfrown:
And he also said Lebron is the GOAT.
That's his "opinion" (and he's wrong, of course)... but what he said about the NBA today is 100% fact, as it was confirmed by the league itself and echoed by many of "today's" players/coaches, including LeBron himself.
"Today's NBA is soft, the Defense is weak, and the rules 'really' favor the Offense."

"Lebron doesn’t guard for a full game and our game plan was to get him to play defense and he left me open all game."
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I agree with KG, LeBron is the GOAT
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thedangerouskitchen wrote: Sat Sep 28, 2024 9:48 am
ElJorge wrote: Sat Sep 28, 2024 9:29 am
thedangerouskitchen wrote: Sat Sep 28, 2024 9:09 am

Your hero admitted that today's NBA is like the All Star game... ie; cream-puff Defense and free-flowing Offense.

LeOuuuchie.

:bronfrown:
And he also said Lebron is the GOAT.
That's his "opinion" (and he's wrong, of course)... but what he said about the NBA today is 100% fact, as it was confirmed by the league itself and echoed by many of "today's" players/coaches, including LeBron himself.
Saying “the league is soft” is literally an opinion. The game has evolved. Sorry you haven’t.
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ElJorge wrote: Sat Sep 28, 2024 10:25 am
thedangerouskitchen wrote: Sat Sep 28, 2024 9:48 am
ElJorge wrote: Sat Sep 28, 2024 9:29 am

And he also said Lebron is the GOAT.
That's his "opinion" (and he's wrong, of course)... but what he said about the NBA today is 100% fact, as it was confirmed by the league itself and echoed by many of "today's" players/coaches, including LeBron himself.
Saying “the league is soft” is literally an opinion. The game has evolved. Sorry you haven’t.
Defense is soft today (much, much softer than it was in the late 80's through about the mid 00's), and again, that was confirmed earlier this year by the league itself and many current players/coaches (including LeBron).

That's a fact.
"Today's NBA is soft, the Defense is weak, and the rules 'really' favor the Offense."

"Lebron doesn’t guard for a full game and our game plan was to get him to play defense and he left me open all game."
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thedangerouskitchen wrote: Sat Sep 28, 2024 11:22 am
ElJorge wrote: Sat Sep 28, 2024 10:25 am
thedangerouskitchen wrote: Sat Sep 28, 2024 9:48 am

That's his "opinion" (and he's wrong, of course)... but what he said about the NBA today is 100% fact, as it was confirmed by the league itself and echoed by many of "today's" players/coaches, including LeBron himself.
Saying “the league is soft” is literally an opinion. The game has evolved. Sorry you haven’t.
Defense is soft today (much, much softer than it was in the late 80's through about the mid 00's), and again, that was confirmed earlier this year by the league itself and many current players/coaches (including LeBron).

That's a fact.
No… it’s literally an opinion. This isn’t even a case of semantics. There’s no way to measure “toughness” aside from an opinion. It’s on the level of “my fav fighter could beat up your fav fighter”.
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ElJorge wrote: Sat Sep 28, 2024 11:32 am
thedangerouskitchen wrote: Sat Sep 28, 2024 11:22 am
ElJorge wrote: Sat Sep 28, 2024 10:25 am

Saying “the league is soft” is literally an opinion. The game has evolved. Sorry you haven’t.
Defense is soft today (much, much softer than it was in the late 80's through about the mid 00's), and again, that was confirmed earlier this year by the league itself and many current players/coaches (including LeBron).

That's a fact.
No… it’s literally an opinion. This isn’t even a case of semantics. There’s no way to measure “toughness” aside from an opinion. It’s on the level of “my fav fighter could beat up your fav fighter”.
TDK has zero ability to recognize his cognitive bias. Appeal to authority is great when it supports an opinion he likes. It's not valid when it's an opinion he differs with. You can't make this stuff up.
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_Vcsgrizzfan_ wrote: Fri Sep 27, 2024 11:30 am It's nonsense, just like all your hoops takes. There have been no material rule changes since 2006 enforcement of hand check rules, and that has long since been abandoned. If you watched, you'd know. KG just "muh era" nonsense.
So KGs take is just wrong according to some people who never set foot on a basketball court let alone high level?
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Deez wrote: Sat Sep 28, 2024 11:01 pm
_Vcsgrizzfan_ wrote: Fri Sep 27, 2024 11:30 am It's nonsense, just like all your hoops takes. There have been no material rule changes since 2006 enforcement of hand check rules, and that has long since been abandoned. If you watched, you'd know. KG just "muh era" nonsense.
So KGs take is just wrong according to some people who never set foot on a basketball court let alone high level?
So his take that LeBron is GOAT is good too? Be careful with appeal to authority. It's a logical fallacy for a reason. Former athletes are absolutely notorious for horrible takes, usually involving protecting their ego and era.
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I've already asked Deez what he would think through appeal to authority if two former NBA players disagreed on a topic, and his head exploded.

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ElJorge wrote: Sat Sep 28, 2024 11:32 am
thedangerouskitchen wrote: Sat Sep 28, 2024 11:22 am
ElJorge wrote: Sat Sep 28, 2024 10:25 am

Saying “the league is soft” is literally an opinion. The game has evolved. Sorry you haven’t.
Defense is soft today (much, much softer than it was in the late 80's through about the mid 00's), and again, that was confirmed earlier this year by the league itself and many current players/coaches (including LeBron).

That's a fact.
No… it’s literally an opinion. This isn’t even a case of semantics. There’s no way to measure “toughness” aside from an opinion. It’s on the level of “my fav fighter could beat up your fav fighter”.
No, actually it's not... if you were around in the 80's-00's it's as clear as the sunrise that Defense today is significantly less physical (ie; softer). But if the eyeball test isn't good enough, all you need to do is read what the league itself said earlier this year, which was echoed by numerous "curent" players and coaches, not to mention boatloads of former players/coaches.

So you got it backwards, actually... claiming Defense today isN't softer is on the level of saying 3-point shooting isn't better today (than it was in the 80's-90's).
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"Today's NBA is soft, the Defense is weak, and the rules 'really' favor the Offense."

"Lebron doesn’t guard for a full game and our game plan was to get him to play defense and he left me open all game."
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