Most feel this way, but they would rather Americans struggle instead of just embracing ObamaCare, and tweaking it for the greater good.
Can’t let the other side get any credit…
I've witnessed both universal healthcare and obamacare first hand, they are absolutely nothing alike. Obamacare is a reform within an insurance-based system. Subsidies and expanded medicaid was a disaster.
I never said they were, other than we need to participate…Obamacare isn’t perfect, but 50% of our government tries to sabotage it and make it fail. Trump had 4 years to come up with something better and didn’t.
You're actually a great example for why Obamacare set back the possibility for universal healthcare in the United States back decades if not centuries. It reinforced negative perceptions among stupid people who somehow believe Obamacare represented a step towards universal healthcare.
I've witnessed both universal healthcare and obamacare first hand, they are absolutely nothing alike. Obamacare is a reform within an insurance-based system. Subsidies and expanded medicaid was a disaster.
I never said they were, other than we need to participate…Obamacare isn’t perfect, but 50% of our government tries to sabotage it and make it fail. Trump had 4 years to come up with something better and didn’t.
You're actually a great example for why Obamacare set back the possibility for universal healthcare in the United States back decades if not centuries. It reinforced negative perceptions among stupid people who somehow believe Obamacare represented a step towards universal healthcare.
You are the perfect example of a sore loser…Democrats have tried for years to implement Universal Healthcare, and dumb people like you cried “Muh partisanship”…You don’t care about America…you dummy’s are the ones who killed Universal Healthcare…
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Guys just buy the mandated health insurance, giving more money to companies whose sole purpose is to make sure the cost of healthcare remains high so there is a need for their companies to exist will surely move us towards cheap universal healthcare for all!
You never liked me, probably don't like me still, but a ***** liking me aint never paid my bills
LeBronMonsterDunk wrote: ↑Thu Aug 22, 2024 1:45 pmGuys just buy the mandated health insurance, giving more money to companies whose sole purpose is to make sure the cost of healthcare remains high so there is a need for their companies to exist will surely move us towards cheap universal healthcare for all!
“Hey guys, anything the Democrats do, oppose, oppose, oppose…We all think Universal Healthcare is perfect for America, but let’s not let them get the credit!!!”
- Idiot Republicans
You morons paved the way for Obamacare. Don’t cry about it now.
I never said they were, other than we need to participate…Obamacare isn’t perfect, but 50% of our government tries to sabotage it and make it fail. Trump had 4 years to come up with something better and didn’t.
You're actually a great example for why Obamacare set back the possibility for universal healthcare in the United States back decades if not centuries. It reinforced negative perceptions among stupid people who somehow believe Obamacare represented a step towards universal healthcare.
You are the perfect example of a sore loser…Democrats have tried for years to implement Universal Healthcare, and dumb people like you cried “Muh partisanship”…You don’t care about America…you dummy’s are the ones who killed Universal Healthcare…
I'm the one who said I disagreed with the conservative side on this, aren't I?
Are you feeling okay? What point do you think you're making?
Obamacare was still a disaster that set hopes for universal healthcare back, likely permanently.
You're actually a great example for why Obamacare set back the possibility for universal healthcare in the United States back decades if not centuries. It reinforced negative perceptions among stupid people who somehow believe Obamacare represented a step towards universal healthcare.
You are the perfect example of a sore loser…Democrats have tried for years to implement Universal Healthcare, and dumb people like you cried “Muh partisanship”…You don’t care about America…you dummy’s are the ones who killed Universal Healthcare…
I'm the one who said I disagreed with the conservative side on this, aren't I?
Are you feeling okay? What point do you think you're making?
Obamacare was still a disaster that set hopes for universal healthcare back, likely permanently.
Don’t get your panty’s in a bunch kiddo, I am speaking about YOUR people, that you blindly support, not just you…
You are the perfect example of a sore loser…Democrats have tried for years to implement Universal Healthcare, and dumb people like you cried “Muh partisanship”…You don’t care about America…you dummy’s are the ones who killed Universal Healthcare…
I'm the one who said I disagreed with the conservative side on this, aren't I?
Are you feeling okay? What point do you think you're making?
Obamacare was still a disaster that set hopes for universal healthcare back, likely permanently.
Don’t get your panty’s in a bunch kiddo, I am speaking about YOUR people, that you blindly support, not just you…
How do I blindly support them if I literally said I disagree with them on this and brought up the topic in this thread? Are you drunk or just flexing your low IQ a little harder than usual today?
LeBronMonsterDunk wrote: ↑Thu Aug 22, 2024 1:45 pmGuys just buy the mandated health insurance, giving more money to companies whose sole purpose is to make sure the cost of healthcare remains high so there is a need for their companies to exist will surely move us towards cheap universal healthcare for all!
“Hey guys, anything the Democrats do, oppose, oppose, oppose…We all think Universal Healthcare is perfect for America, but let’s not let them get the credit!!!”
- Idiot Republicans
You morons paved the way for Obamacare. Don’t cry about it now.
Deflecting isn't going to work old timer.
You came into this thread absolutely fully BELIEVING that ObamaCare was equivalent to universal healthcare, and that if we just "tweaked Obamacare" a little bit it would get us there.
You didn't, and still don't, even understand the underlying causes of why our healthcare is so expensive.
Bozo.
You never liked me, probably don't like me still, but a ***** liking me aint never paid my bills
LeBronMonsterDunk wrote: ↑Thu Aug 22, 2024 1:45 pmGuys just buy the mandated health insurance, giving more money to companies whose sole purpose is to make sure the cost of healthcare remains high so there is a need for their companies to exist will surely move us towards cheap universal healthcare for all!
“Hey guys, anything the Democrats do, oppose, oppose, oppose…We all think Universal Healthcare is perfect for America, but let’s not let them get the credit!!!”
- Idiot Republicans
You morons paved the way for Obamacare. Don’t cry about it now.
Deflecting isn't going to work old timer.
You came into this thread absolutely fully BELIEVING that ObamaCare was equivalent to universal healthcare, and that if we just "tweaked Obamacare" a little bit it would get us there.
You didn't, and still don't, even understand the underlying causes of why our healthcare is so expensive.
Bozo.
Nope…I would NEVER advocate for universal healthcare, but I do think that everyone should be forced to participate.
Titan18 wrote: ↑Thu Aug 22, 2024 1:29 pm
Abortion. Legalize it up to 12 or 16 weeks like European counties and be done with it. Tired of it being a talking point every fucking election. Besides the less screeching leftists raising kids the better.
Weed. Not sure what republicans obsession with fighting this is. Would have been a huge W if a Republican Congress and President were finally the ones to do it back in 2017 but of course they continue to be out of touch.
Don’t give a shit about the gays and trannies either. Government shouldn’t decide who gets to marry or be together and if you want to chop off your dick or tits doesn’t effect me one bit. But knock it off with the tranny story time and pushing tranny bullshit stuff onto kids.
Horrible takes. Why should abortion be legalized to 16 weeks in a state that overwhelmingly rejects the notion? It should be a state issue, period.
Don't give a shit about trannies, but you do care about protecting kids? How does that line from 'love and marriage' go - can't have one without the other? Wake up dude, you're better than this. It's a mental illness and a cult that preys on children because it can't produce children of its own.
Those Republican states that are going crazy with the complete bans or 6 week restrictions are fucking things up at the national level. 2022 should have been a landslide for the republicans but the repeal of Roe and state laws that followed rallied up the democrats in other states and essentially turned what was looking like a red wave to a sprinkle. Republicans dying on this hill is what’s going to eventually turn America into a one party country with complete control by the democrats.
Trannies may be freaks but there are plenty of them that just want to do their thing and be left alone. However those preying on children absolutely need to be thrown into the wood chipper. Topic was stances you disagree with your party affiliation and most republicans or conservatives want all trannies dead. I just want the predators dead and don’t subscribe to the notion that ALL of them are predators. They do all have mental illnesses though.
I'm the one who said I disagreed with the conservative side on this, aren't I?
Are you feeling okay? What point do you think you're making?
Obamacare was still a disaster that set hopes for universal healthcare back, likely permanently.
Don’t get your panty’s in a bunch kiddo, I am speaking about YOUR people, that you blindly support, not just you…
How do I blindly support them if I literally said I disagree with them on this and brought up the topic in this thread? Are you drunk or just flexing your low IQ a little harder than usual today?
It’s pretty simple…You keep voting for the people you supposedly oppose…
“Hey guys, anything the Democrats do, oppose, oppose, oppose…We all think Universal Healthcare is perfect for America, but let’s not let them get the credit!!!”
- Idiot Republicans
You morons paved the way for Obamacare. Don’t cry about it now.
Deflecting isn't going to work old timer.
You came into this thread absolutely fully BELIEVING that ObamaCare was equivalent to universal healthcare, and that if we just "tweaked Obamacare" a little bit it would get us there.
You didn't, and still don't, even understand the underlying causes of why our healthcare is so expensive.
Bozo.
Nope…I would NEVER advocate for universal healthcare, but I do think that everyone should be forced to participate.
You are just a dumb hillbilly with an agenda…
So you're saying ObamaCare is BETTER than universal healthcare?
Christ, you really are retarded aren't you?
You never liked me, probably don't like me still, but a ***** liking me aint never paid my bills
You came into this thread absolutely fully BELIEVING that ObamaCare was equivalent to universal healthcare, and that if we just "tweaked Obamacare" a little bit it would get us there.
You didn't, and still don't, even understand the underlying causes of why our healthcare is so expensive.
Bozo.
Nope…I would NEVER advocate for universal healthcare, but I do think that everyone should be forced to participate.
You are just a dumb hillbilly with an agenda…
So you're saying ObamaCare is BETTER than universal healthcare?
_Vcsgrizzfan_ wrote: ↑Thu Aug 22, 2024 2:10 pm
That escalated quickly!
As long as the system is insurance and pharma dominated, it will be broken. Period.
Doesn’t it amaze you though, that Democrats have tried for years to implement Universal Healthcare, and Republicans fought so hard against it, but then say it is the best thing for America LOL…