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Pretty good vid on Dream Team vs 2024 team

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He says Dream Team was heads & tails above this current team… makes a good argument IMO.
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Me and TDK been telling y’all for weeks now. It’s not even close.
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Both zombie and tdk gonna have aneurysms
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This is no surprise to ANY objective fan with a BB IQ of at least 10.

PS: Anyone else notice (in the clip) that not one single "Defender" (lol) even so much as brushed jerseys with LeFraud in that Germany game???

I mean, come on... at least TRY to make the opposing player/team work just a little bit for their point, amirite?!?! No wonder LeFraud can still play at age 40.

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The biggest difference is the international talent.

In 1992, the rest of the world had 9 total NBA players smattered about rosters.

Today, there are 51 current NBA players on international rosters....and another 30 with at least some NBA experience.


The Dream Team had a fucking cakewalk.
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More international players than ever in NBA now. it shows how poor the quality of the american talent pool has been during the lebron 21yr era that now 125 international players take up roster spots in the nba ...that's 125 americans with weak game that cant make the league
its little wonder the rest of the world is on par with america when the american talent pool coming through aren't even plumbers and bus drivers
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Deez wrote: Mon Jul 29, 2024 1:41 pm More international players than ever in NBA now. it shows how poor the quality of the american talent pool has been during the lebron 21yr era that now 125 international players take up roster spots in the nba ...that's 125 americans with weak game that cant make the league
its little wonder the rest of the world is on par with america when the american talent pool coming through aren't even plumbers and bus drivers
Did ANY of that make sense to you?

What you mean is that the American plumbers AREN'T ON ROSTERS anymore due to amazing international talent.

Deeper talent pool....deeper teams....much better competition.
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Robceltsfan wrote: Mon Jul 29, 2024 1:52 pm
Deez wrote: Mon Jul 29, 2024 1:41 pm More international players than ever in NBA now. it shows how poor the quality of the american talent pool has been during the lebron 21yr era that now 125 international players take up roster spots in the nba ...that's 125 americans with weak game that cant make the league
its little wonder the rest of the world is on par with america when the american talent pool coming through aren't even plumbers and bus drivers
Did ANY of that make sense to you?

What you mean is that the American plumbers AREN'T ON ROSTERS anymore due to amazing international talent.

Deeper talent pool....deeper teams....much better competition.
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The fact that you can't follow that simple logic is sad.

In 1992....the weaker Americans made NBA rosters.

In 2024....the weaker Americans can't make NBA rosters.

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Relative to competition, the Dream Team was obviously better, but it was better because the competition was literally 10x worse.

What's complicated to understand about that?

That's basically reflective of the Dream Team's legacy as well...prompting international programs and ballers and money/emphasis...which in turn led to a deeper talent pool worldwide.
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If international players were so bad during the 90's, why did the USA have to send pro's to defeat them?
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wow, we actually have somebody who can out data Bush and use it to support a different opinion.
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AtiliusRegulus wrote: Mon Jul 29, 2024 2:34 pm wow, we actually have somebody who can out data Bush and use it to support a different opinion.
What are you babbling about?
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Da Stars. wrote: Mon Jul 29, 2024 2:26 pm If international players were so bad during the 90's, why did the USA have to send pro's to defeat them?
We got so cocky that we stopped sending pros and figured our best college players could get the job done (and they could for a while) but over time international basketball closed the gap to where our college players weren't enough.

That's when we sent the big dogs in.
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Bush4Ever. wrote: Mon Jul 29, 2024 2:14 pm Relative to competition, the Dream Team was obviously better, but it was better because the competition was literally 10x worse.

What's complicated to understand about that?

That's basically reflective of the Dream Team's legacy as well...prompting international programs and ballers and money/emphasis...which in turn led to a deeper talent pool worldwide.
In fairness though… in the vid he doesn’t use their competition as the end all be all. He readily acknowledges that teams in other countries have gotten much better. In fact… when he compares players on his chart (ranking efficiency and productivity and whatever other metrics) it clearly shows that the Dream Team had the better players, and the players on their level play for other countries (Jokic, SGA, Luka).
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PhutureDynasty wrote: Mon Jul 29, 2024 2:44 pm
Da Stars. wrote: Mon Jul 29, 2024 2:26 pm If international players were so bad during the 90's, why did the USA have to send pro's to defeat them?
We got so cocky that we stopped sending pros and figured our best college players could get the job done (and they could for a while) but over time international basketball closed the gap to where our college players weren't enough.

That's when we sent the big dogs in.
We never sent pro's until 1992. Come on man.
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Da Stars. wrote: Mon Jul 29, 2024 2:45 pm
PhutureDynasty wrote: Mon Jul 29, 2024 2:44 pm
Da Stars. wrote: Mon Jul 29, 2024 2:26 pm If international players were so bad during the 90's, why did the USA have to send pro's to defeat them?
We got so cocky that we stopped sending pros and figured our best college players could get the job done (and they could for a while) but over time international basketball closed the gap to where our college players weren't enough.

That's when we sent the big dogs in.
We never sent pro's until 1992. Come on man.
That's completely irrelevant to his point.
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Da Stars. wrote: Mon Jul 29, 2024 2:45 pm
PhutureDynasty wrote: Mon Jul 29, 2024 2:44 pm
Da Stars. wrote: Mon Jul 29, 2024 2:26 pm If international players were so bad during the 90's, why did the USA have to send pro's to defeat them?
We got so cocky that we stopped sending pros and figured our best college players could get the job done (and they could for a while) but over time international basketball closed the gap to where our college players weren't enough.

That's when we sent the big dogs in.
We never sent pro's until 1992. Come on man.
International basketball got better from the time that our college players could beat them until 1992 when we decided to first send NBA players (my mistake, I thought we sent them back in the earliest days of Olympic basketball).

Regardless, if international basketball got better in the time from college players going to the Olympics until 1992, you don't think they would be even better today?
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AtiliusRegulus wrote: Mon Jul 29, 2024 2:34 pm wow, we actually have somebody who can out data Bush and use it to support a different opinion.
Yea he owned Bush pretty badly IMHO
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_Vcsgrizzfan_ wrote: Mon Jul 29, 2024 2:47 pm
Da Stars. wrote: Mon Jul 29, 2024 2:45 pm
PhutureDynasty wrote: Mon Jul 29, 2024 2:44 pm
We got so cocky that we stopped sending pros and figured our best college players could get the job done (and they could for a while) but over time international basketball closed the gap to where our college players weren't enough.

That's when we sent the big dogs in.
We never sent pro's until 1992. Come on man.
That's completely irrelevant to his point.
Please do tell.
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