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... where do they rank amongst the greatest backcourts ever?

I was gonna list some of their accomplishments together but y'all know what they've done. Two of the greatest shooters on one team. Four rings. Etc. Etc.

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probably the greatest back court ever but because of the quality teams that Dumars and Isaiah faced i.e Bulls, Lakers, Celtics, Trailblazers, they might get it.
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If you don't significantly era adjust, number 1 and with a good margin.
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How often is a positional GOAT (or near GOAT) paired with a strong all-star within the more general position at the same time?

Magic was paired with B-Scott.
Jordan was paired with non-stars.
Isiah/Dumars.
West/Goodrich for a period (?)
Cousy/Jones
Parker/Manu

That 2015-2019 period showed the best backcourt in history, IMO.

Isiah and Dumars were both roughly top 15 in the MVP vote when they won titles. Dumars was probably a good era-adjusted match for Klay, but Isiah wasn't for Curry.

The opposite for LA. Magic could match Curry, but I'm less sure of B-Scott vs. Klay.

That's not to mention how synergistic they were. 1+1 = more than 2 in their case.
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klay's 37 point in a quarter, and 60 points in 29 minutes are epic. the guy has had a ridiculous basketball peak.
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In terms of Shooting/Scoring ability they're #1... factoring in Defense, Rebounding, Playmaking and overall all-around play I'll take Isiah/Dumars.
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Bush4Ever. wrote: Mon Jul 01, 2024 4:10 pm How often is a positional GOAT (or near GOAT) paired with a strong all-star within the more general position at the same time?

Magic was paired with B-Scott.
Jordan was paired with non-stars.
Isiah/Dumars.
West/Goodrich for a period (?)
Cousy/Jones
Parker/Manu

That 2015-2019 period showed the best backcourt in history, IMO.

Isiah and Dumars were both roughly top 15 in the MVP vote when they won titles. Dumars was probably a good era-adjusted match for Klay, but Isiah wasn't for Curry.

The opposite for LA. Magic could match Curry, but I'm less sure of B-Scott vs. Klay.

That's not to mention how synergistic they were. 1+1 = more than 2 in their case.
This is how I feel.

They're definitely the GOAT that I was able to consistently watch but I didn't get to watch any of Thomas/Dumars.

I also assume that Bob Cousy/Sam Jones are a good throwback backcourt that deserve mention.
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thedangerouskitchen wrote: Mon Jul 01, 2024 4:21 pm In terms of Shooting/Scoring ability they're #1... factoring in Defense, Rebounding, Playmaking and overall all-around play I'll take Isiah/Dumars.
What a stupid take. Shocking.
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PhutureDynasty wrote: Mon Jul 01, 2024 4:26 pm
This is how I feel.

They're definitely the GOAT that I was able to consistently watch but I didn't get to watch any of Thomas/Dumars.
My view might be colored somewhat by my opinion Isiah was somewhat overrated as an impact player, at least during the period in question. Also, their respective peaks/best years didn't precisely overlap. They would get a little screwed by timing, whereas the Splash Brothers benefited from it.
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Easily, the best shooting and scoring backcourt duo in league history. As far as their place in NBA history, I don't see a backcourt duo that holds up to Steph and Klay, atleast since Dumars and Thomas.
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4 rings without an elite big is a lot. It's a no-brainer

it's puzzling how they fell off so hard and were trash last year. Yes they're older, but id have predicted at least 4 seed and second round. Shooting is usually the last thing to go, but Klay in particular can no longer shoot. I wonder if their vision has deteriorated and would benefit from Lasik
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Uncontroversial wrote: Mon Jul 01, 2024 4:49 pm 4 rings without an elite big is a lot. It's a no-brainer

it's puzzling how they fell off so hard and were trash last year. Yes they're older, but id have predicted at least 4 seed and second round. Shooting is usually the last thing to go, but Klay in particular can no longer shoot. I wonder if their vision has deteriorated and would benefit from Lasik
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The Los Angeles Lakers reportedly offered Klay Thompson $20M a year AND D'Angelo Russell to the Golden State Warriors via a sign-and-trade!

The Warriors said no 😳

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elartman1973 wrote: Mon Jul 01, 2024 5:24 pm The Los Angeles Lakers reportedly offered Klay Thompson $20M a year AND D'Angelo Russell to the Golden State Warriors via a sign-and-trade!

The Warriors said no 😳

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Warriors did us a favor in that case. Klay averaged the same points but on a worse 3pt%, dished out half the assists, and his defense is garbage now.
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Just two days ago DLo exercised his option to return to LA, now the Lakers are dangling him as a trade add-on lol.
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thedangerouskitchen wrote: Mon Jul 01, 2024 4:21 pm In terms of Shooting/Scoring ability they're #1... factoring in Defense, Rebounding, Playmaking and overall all-around play I'll take Isiah/Dumars.
lol why would you include playmaking in the list of things they didn’t do well?
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Klay should get his mojo back. No Draymond green antics plus he has Olympic basketball for the Bahamas which will force him to lead.
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I'll miss their elevator doors. Zeke/Joe D ever run something similar?
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AtiliusRegulus wrote: Mon Jul 01, 2024 5:48 pm Klay should get his mojo back. No Draymond green antics plus he has Olympic basketball for the Bahamas which will force him to lead.
I think physically, he might be a lot more limited now. I hope he bounces back bigly, but I doubt it. Smart move by my Magic not to overpay as he hits the downside of his career.
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_Vcsgrizzfan_ wrote: Mon Jul 01, 2024 4:30 pm
thedangerouskitchen wrote: Mon Jul 01, 2024 4:21 pm In terms of Shooting/Scoring ability they're #1... factoring in Defense, Rebounding, Playmaking and overall all-around play I'll take Isiah/Dumars.
What a stupid take. Shocking.
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