Worst 3pt shooters in NBA history: Michael Jordan

[ElJorge]

Does Bushy actually think LNS is pro Jordan or the 90s? Pretty sure he just sees the massive hypocrisy from the BWGC. It’s pretty hard to miss

100%

I’m in the “today’s players are more skilled” camp. But it cracks me up that some of these dudes shit on the 90s but hype up a dude from the time of segregation.. even going so far as to give them hypothetical access to today’s nutrition and technology lol wtf?

This originally was a Ben Wallace vs Bill Russell discussion too…

[Bush4Ever.]

Does Bushy actually think LNS is pro Jordan or the 90s?

LNS is just an anti-Celtics troll, frustrated over the Celtics winning the title.

Par for the course. Troll alliances form all the time, like when TDK and Artman both find themselves in pitiable positions in 2024, and thus join forces to simp/troll for Jordan.

[thedangerouskitchen]

No one is trolling when they assert that 80's/90's Jordan would completely destroy today's NBA (given the rules that heavily favor the Offense, all the Bigs on the perimeter chucking 3's -leaving the paint/rim WIDE OPEN- and with the Defense being so soft and weak relative to the 90's).

OTOH claiming 50's/60's Russell would still be the GOAT (lol) and the best Defensive player in the game today is clearly trolling because the game today is much like it was when Bill played: Super fast paced, free-flowing, high scoring Offenses, minimal Defense, minimal Contact, etc.).

Thus, given that today's players are sooooo much bigger, better, stronger, faster, more athletic, more skilled and more talented than the players from Russ' Era, Bill would be lucky to make an NBA roster today.

This, of course, is a conclusion we can all agree on based on the BWGC logic...

[Bush4Ever.]

"I didn't play basketball in high school, but I know more than the basketball dolt Jerry West."

-TDK



The TOTAL 180 degree flip Jordan Jockers do on appeal to authority claims on Jordan vs. Russell immediately invalidates ALL their basketball opinions and confirms the hypothesis that their fandom was actually based in mental illness and life dissatisfaction than actual basketball

Nothing is funnier than watching boomer blowhards contradict themselves in real-time.

[lettherebehouse]

lol hilarious thread

[thedangerouskitchen]

"I didn't play basketball in high school, but I know more than the basketball dolt Jerry West."

-TDK



The TOTAL 180 degree flip Jordan Jockers do on appeal to authority claims on Jordan vs. Russell immediately invalidates ALL their basketball opinions and confirms the hypothesis that their fandom was actually based in mental illness and life dissatisfaction than actual basketball

Nothing is funnier than watching boomer blowhards contradict themselves in real-time.

Jerry West??



"I hate to say it's not a Laker, but Michael Jordan. He's been the greatest player I've ever seen. And I'm probably a harsh judge of talent in the sense that I admire players that are really good defensive players and really good offensive players."

"Michael Jordan is the most skilled player I ever saw."

"He (Jordan) was the best Defensive player in the league and he was the best Offensive player in the league."

Far be it for TDK to argue with Mr. Clutch, Jerry West.

[Bush4Ever.]

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So we are back to "all players make a perfect analysis because they played the game" again?

You are literally proving my point, silly.

lol

[Bush4Ever.]

By the way, here's Finals MVP Chauncey Billups disagreeing with Jerry West:



So per the "players are always making good analysis" logic, both MJ and Kobe were the most skilled players ever, at the same time.

Perfect. This is a good methodology. 2+2 = 4 and 2+2 = 5 at the same time.

[ElJorge]

What is Bush even doing right now?

So much “this’ll get’em” energy from his posts.

[Bush4Ever.]

What is Bush even doing right now?

So much “this’ll get’em” energy from his posts.

I'm just basking in the brilliance of the "players are right about analysis because they played the game" appeal to authority gayness the pro-Jordan side parrots over and over again.

It's just really, really smart stuff and I'm soaking all the obvious brilliance in.

Wow!

[thedangerouskitchen]

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So we are back to "all players make a perfect analysis because they play the game" again?

You are literally proving my point, silly.

lol

So you think players from the 50's/60's commenting on players from the 80's/90's is the same as "today's" players (coaches and the very league itself) commenting on "today's" NBA?

Spoiler:

[_Vcsgrizzfan_]

Considering how Russell beat West like a rented mule time after time, amazing that he's still reasonably gracious about it.

[thedangerouskitchen]

Imagine Jerry West playing his entire career (not just his last few seasons) surrounded with the same level of talent Russ had around him (ie; 4-8 HOFERS on the roster every single season)... Mr. Clutch would be Top 2 all-time withOut question, maybe even co-GOAT with Jordan.

West EASILY takes half of Russell's rings (possibly more) and most of his MVP's, and individually Jerry was a better two-way/all-around player than Russell. Hell, give West Wilt's talent his entire career and Jerry is Top 3-5 all-time on everyone's list.

The more I think about how easy Bill Russell had it, the farther down the All-Time list he goes.

[Alex_Murphy]

Imagine Jerry West playing his entire career (not just his last few seasons) surrounded with the same level of talent Russ had around him (ie; 4-8 HOFERS on the roster every single season)... Mr. Clutch would be Top 2 all-time withOut question, maybe even co-GOAT with Jordan.

West EASILY takes half of Russell's rings (possibly more) and most of his MVP's, and individually Jerry was a better two-way/all-around player than Russell. Hell, give West Wilt's talent his entire career and Jerry is Top 3-5 all-time on everyone's list.

The more I think about how easy Bill Russell had it, the farther down the All-Time list he goes.

He is so overrated.. that’s why I said put him on the Washington bullets or Los Angeles clippers his entire career and he would be a footnote in the history books.

[thedangerouskitchen]

Imagine Jerry West playing his entire career (not just his last few seasons) surrounded with the same level of talent Russ had around him (ie; 4-8 HOFERS on the roster every single season)... Mr. Clutch would be Top 2 all-time withOut question, maybe even co-GOAT with Jordan.

West EASILY takes half of Russell's rings (possibly more) and most of his MVP's, and individually Jerry was a better two-way/all-around player than Russell. Hell, give West Wilt's talent his entire career and Jerry is Top 3-5 all-time on everyone's list.

The more I think about how easy Bill Russell had it, the farther down the All-Time list he goes.

He is so overrated.. that’s why I said put him on the Washington bullets or Los Angeles clippers his entire career and he would be a footnote in the history books.

I'll give him credit for revolutionizing the game with his Defense, but if we're being honest, most HS Varsity teams in the country today could beat most of the teams Russell was going up against back in the 50's through about the mid 60's.

Russell in the 90's would be Dennis Rodman if the Worm cared anything at all about Scoring. In today's era, with all the Bigs on the perimeter chuckin' 3's, coupled with Russ' complete lack of an Offensive game, he'd be a serviceable role player and that's about it.

[kobeunderbite]

[Robceltsfan]

Imagine Jerry West playing his entire career (not just his last few seasons) surrounded with the same level of talent Russ had around him (ie; 4-8 HOFERS on the roster every single season)... Mr. Clutch would be Top 2 all-time withOut question, maybe even co-GOAT with Jordan.

West EASILY takes half of Russell's rings (possibly more) and most of his MVP's, and individually Jerry was a better two-way/all-around player than Russell. Hell, give West Wilt's talent his entire career and Jerry is Top 3-5 all-time on everyone's list.

The more I think about how easy Bill Russell had it, the farther down the All-Time list he goes.

He is so overrated.. that’s why I said put him on the Washington bullets or Los Angeles clippers his entire career and he would be a footnote in the history books.

Russell was a champion in high school.
Russell was a champion in college.
Russell was a champion in the NBA.

Russell IS a champion, period.

[Da Stars.]

Would rather cuss and discuss Wayne, Bobby and McDavid. Not one poster on this topic is going to change their mind. This topic is like me. Getting old.

[Titan18]

Would rather cuss and discuss Wayne, Bobby and McDavid. Not one poster on this topic is going to change their mind. This topic is like me. Getting old.

[Robceltsfan]

I'm not here to change anyone's mind. I'm here to tell them how they're wrong.