Wemby first NBA rookie to ever make all-defensive first team

[Havlicekstealsit]

Also who tf is Herb Jones

[zombiesonics]

How are there 4 centers?

[Bush4Ever.]

Well earned for Wemby.

This might change after he goes through the usual rookie tweaks, but I think he's more exciting and impressive defensively than offensively.

The Spurs were gave up 114.6 pts/100 possessions with Wemby, and 121.0/100 possessions without him on the court, per 82games.

http://www.82games.com/2324/23SAS20.HTM#onoff

To anchor that to something, 121 pts/100 possessions would be worst in the league for defensive rating, while 114.6 would be about 13th. They perform about 13th best with Wemby and 30th best without him

https://www.basketball-reference.com/le ... _2024.html

Top-tier defense and nearly top-tier rebounding is a great base for him to build from. Unfortunately, it's happening with a garbage-tier supporting cast. Even by 1st round pick standards, that roster blows.

[elartman1973]

How is there 4 centers?

Because they didn't want to give Suggs first team

[Havlicekstealsit]

All defense is positionless. Also maybe wings just need to defend better

[thedangerouskitchen]

How is there 4 centers?

Because your Era is garbage Defensively, that's how.

[thedangerouskitchen]

Also who tf is Herb Jones

Poor Anthony Davis, stuck wallowing in LeMediocrity with the Lakers because he has to carry LeFraud's worthless ass on Defense.

[elmerjfudd]

How are there 4 centers?

Since it’s not rewarded by position, that’s how it should be. The best defensive players have always been centers. The only time a guard should be ahead of a big is when a player like Jamal magloire is an all star big.

[Shill Jackson]

#jordancouldnever

[rileymartin]

How are there 4 centers?

To be fair, Bam could literally play any position though...

[Alex_Murphy]

How are there 4 centers?

To be fair, Bam could literally play any position though...

No, he can’t dementia. Shut up!

[elartman1973]

Bam overrated

[thedangerouskitchen]

How are there 4 centers?

Since it’s not rewarded by position, that’s how it should be. The best defensive players have always been centers. The only time a guard should be ahead of a big is when a player like Jamal magloire is an all star big.

"More important" Defenders perhaps (not necessarily "better"), but that was back when Centersplayed in/around the paint and defended the rim on every possession. In today's "Modern Era" Centers are too busy on the perimeter chuckin' 3's.

[Havlicekstealsit]

Bam overrated

Bam has played in more playoff games these past three seasons alone (46) than the entire Orlando Magic team has since 2010 (42).

[thedangerouskitchen]

#jordancouldnever

Neither could your hero Jabbar. In fact Kareem played five (5) "full" seasons before he made First Team D... MJ only needed 3.

[Bush4Ever.]

It's always funny how boomers want to discredit modern offenses by saying the rules favor offenses (they do, but it's not nearly enough to explain the giant gaps), but cry and whine when someone uses the same logic to discredit 80s/90s defenses, even though boomers claim you could literally do anything on defense back then (when they speak about why those eras offenses were complete shit by modern standards).

If Jordan played in such a restrictive era for defense like today, he'd average 0.5 steals a game max, and likely would give up 30 a night, because he wouldn't have the ability to handcheck and maim offensive players like he did every game in the rough and tumble 90s.

True spit or something.

[Titan18]

Manute Bol if he played in the 90s

Weak era

[thedangerouskitchen]

It's always funny how boomers want to discredit modern offenses by saying the rules favor offenses (they do, but it's not nearly enough to explain the giant gaps),

Yes, they do, and yes it IS... and that's coming from the Commissioner, the VP of Ops, and many (current) players and coaches... and these "experts" have forgotten more about the game than you will ever know,regardless of what your silly "made-up" stats might suggest.

Defense absolutely SUCKS today, relative to the late 80's - 00's.

Deal with it.

[Bush4Ever.]

Yes, they do, and yes it IS.

I'm sorry your current life is so miserable.

I hope you find some happiness soon.

[elartman1973]

Yes, they do, and yes it IS.

I'm sorry your current life is so miserable.

I hope you find some happiness soon.

I dont