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[Bush4Ever.]

Carr = better than 75% of the Bigs in the NBA today.

I'll just quote this without commentary.

lol

[LeBronMonsterDunk]

"Antoine Carr...HOF talent"

-TDK

Carr = better than 75% of the Bigs in the NBA today.

https://www.basketball-reference.com/pl ... ran01.html

Surely you're talking about some other Antoine Carr and not this guy... right?

[wailuaFC]

"Antoine Carr...HOF talent"

-TDK

Carr = better than 75% of the Bigs in the NBA today.

https://www.basketball-reference.com/pl ... ran01.html

Surely you're talking about some other Antoine Carr and not this guy... right?

In 16 seasons, he started 168 games, and only twice did he start more than half of his games played. Definitely HOF/All star talent

[_Vcsgrizzfan_]

Carr = better than 75% of the Bigs in the NBA today.

https://www.basketball-reference.com/pl ... ran01.html

Surely you're talking about some other Antoine Carr and not this guy... right?

In 16 seasons, he started 168 games, and only twice did he start more than half of his games played. Definitely HOF/All star talent

He doesn't make an NBA roster today.

[thedangerouskitchen]

Carr = better than 75% of the Bigs in the NBA today.

I'll just quote this without commentary.

lol

Better still let's go down the list of 200+ watered-down Bigs in the NBA today (ie; C and PF) and see who is better than prime Carr (in bold.)

I count about 30, give or take a few... about one (1) per team, or about 15%-20% of the Bigs in today's watered-down NBA are better than prime Carr. So I was wrong... he was better than about 80%-85% of the Bigs in the NBA today (not 75%):

Dmytro Skapintsev
Malik Williams
Mike Muscala
Robin Lopez
Jaylin Williams
Cody Zeller
Nathan Mensah
Maxi Kleber
Tristan Vukcevic
Harry Giles
Duop Reath
Dario Šarić
Sandro Mamukelashvili
Luka Garza
Zach Collins
Mo Bamba
Orlando Robinson
Filip Petrušev
Chimezie Metu
Moses Brown
Al Horford
Jock Landale
Wendell Carter Jr.
Moussa Diabaté
Boban Marjanović
Daniel Theis
Omer Yurtseven
Paul Reed
Trey Jemison
Kelly Olynyk
Andre Drummond
Colin Castleton
Bismack Biyombo
Mason Plumlee
Day'Ron Sharpe
Larry Nance Jr.
Mitchell Robinson
Thomas Bryant
Olivier Sarr
vin Bagley III
Jalen Smith
Kevon Looney
Damian Jones
JaVale McGee
Jay Huff
Drew Eubanks
Goga Bitadze
Tristan Thompson
Onyeka Okongwu
James Wiseman
Alex Len
DeAndre Jordan
Ibou Badji
Neemias Queta
Isaiah Hartenstein
Mark Williams
Robert Williams
Walker Kessler
Jakob Poeltl
Isaiah Jackson
Dwight Powell
Marques Bolden
Jericho Sims
Nick Richards
Udoka Azubuike
Luke Kornet
Jaxson Hayes
Charles Bassey
Dereck Lively II
Jaren Jackson Jr.
Nikola Vučević
Brook Lopez
Jusuf Nurkic
Kristaps Porziņģis
Bam Adebayo
Myles Turner
Joel Embiid
Chet Holmgren
Alperen Sengu
Anthony Davis
Jonas Valančiūnas
Deandre Ayton
Clint Capela
Nikola Jokić
Domantas Sabonis
Moritz Wagner
Jalen Duren
Nic Claxton
Jarrett Allen
Ivica Zubac
Rudy Gobert
Xavier Tillman Sr.
Richaun Holmes
Daniel Gafford
Ron Harper Jr.
Pete Nance
E.J. Liddell
Usman Garuba
Mouhamadou Gueye
James Johnson
Markieff Morris
Isaiah Livers
Mouhamed Gueye
Matthew Hurt
P.J. Tucker
Wenyen Gabriel
Luka Šamanić
Admiral Schofield
Olivier-Maxence Prosper
Jontay Porter
Jake LaRavia
Dāvis Bertāns
Hunter Tyson
David Rodd
Aleksej Pokusevski
Taj Gibson
Jarace Walker
Kobe Brown
Dean Wade
Isaiah Mobley
Dorian Finney-Smith
Ousmane Dieng
Jae Crowder
Jalen Wilson
GG Jackson II
Jamal Cain
Santi Aldama
JT Thor
Marcus Morris
Sasha Vezenkov
Kevin Love
Taurean Prince
Patrick Williams
Trey Lyles
Cameron Johnson
Georges Niang
Lamar Stevens
Taylor Hendricks
Toumani Camara
Nikola Jović
Nicolas Batum
Greg Brown III
Grant Williams
Jeff Green
Kyle Anderson
Kenneth Lofton Jr.
Zeke Nnaji
Haywood Highsmith
Christian Wood
Tari Eason
Kenrich Williams
Anthony Gill
Jeremiah Robinson-Earl
Micah Potter
Isaiah Stewart
Dominick Barlow
Draymond Green
Oscar Tshiebwe
Chris Boucher
Gui Santos
Jonathan Isaac
Terry Taylor
Jarred Vanderbilt
Adama Sanogo
Trendon Watford
Thanasis Antetokounmpo
Noah Clowne
Brandon Clarke
RaiQuan Gray
Darius Bazley
Thaddeus Young
Bol Bol
D.J. Wilson
Drew Peterson
Mamadi Diakite
Trayce Jackson-Davis
P.J. Washington
Jeremy Sochan
Jerami Grant
Jabari Smith Jr.
Paolo Banchero
Kyle Kuzma
Jayson Tatum
Julius Randle
Harrison Barnes
Lauri Markkanen
Tobias Harris
Karl-Anthony Towns
Bobby Portis
Jonathan Kuminga
John Collins
Pascal Siakam
Rui Hachimura
Jalen Williams
Zion Williamson
Obi Toppin
Evan Mobley
Giannis Antetokounmpo
Precious Achiuwa

[Bush4Ever.]

lol

[wailuaFC]

JJJ would break the game in the 90s and isn’t even an all star now. But he isn’t better than a guy who started 5% of his games. Like I said, either an idiot, or dishonest, there’s no other option.

[_Vcsgrizzfan_]

JJJ would break the game in the 90s and isn’t even an all star now. But he isn’t better than a guy who started 5% of his games. Like I said, either an idiot, or dishonest, there’s no other option.

From the Grizz alone, both JJJ and Brandon Clarke absolutely shit all over Carr. The difference in skill and athleticism is massive.

[elmerjfudd]

It’s always funny when it comes to these discussions, because tdk has admittedly said he hasn’t watched in at least a decade.

[Bush4Ever.]

I was reading a thread on RealGM and someone posted this list:

Starting centers in 1996:

Atl Andrew Lang
Bos Eric Montross
Cha Matt Geiger/Robert Parish
Chi Luc Longley
Cle Michael Cage
Dal Lorenzo Williams
Den Dikembe Mutombo
Det Otis Thorpe
Gs Rony Seikaly
Hou Hakeem Olajuwon
Ind Rik Smits
Lac Brian Williams
Lal Vlade Divac
Mia Alonzo Mourning
Mil Benoit Benjamin
Min Tom Gugliotta?
NJ Shawn Bradley
NY Patrick Ewing
Orl Shaquille O’Neal
Phi Derrick Alston/Sharone Wright
Pho Hot Rod Williams
Por Chris Dudley
Sac Olden Polynice
SA David Robinson
Sea Ervin Johnson
Tor Oliver Miller
Utah Felton Spencer
Van Bryant Reeves
Was Georghe Muresan

Like....wtf? lol

[_Vcsgrizzfan_]

I was reading a thread on RealGM and someone posted this list:

Starting centers in 1996:

Atl Andrew Lang
Bos Eric Montross
Cha Matt Geiger/Robert Parish
Chi Luc Longley
Cle Michael Cage
Dal Lorenzo Williams
Den Dikembe Mutombo
Det Otis Thorpe
Gs Rony Seikaly
Hou Hakeem Olajuwon
Ind Rik Smits
Lac Brian Williams
Lal Vlade Divac
Mia Alonzo Mourning
Mil Benoit Benjamin
Min Tom Gugliotta?
NJ Shawn Bradley
NY Patrick Ewing
Orl Shaquille O’Neal
Phi Derrick Alston/Sharone Wright
Pho Hot Rod Williams
Por Chris Dudley
Sac Olden Polynice
SA David Robinson
Sea Ervin Johnson
Tor Oliver Miller
Utah Felton Spencer
Van Bryant Reeves
Was Georghe Muresan

Like....wtf? lol

But, but, but... that was the era of GREAT big men. Can you imagine what Jokic and Embiid, Sabonis, Davis etc... would do to the vast majority of those clowns. Big Country or Oliver Miller trying to guard Embiid just makes me laugh out loud.

[LeBronMonsterDunk]

Brook Lopez would unironically dominate in the 80s/90s lol

[elmerjfudd]

Shaq has said that some of his hardest matchups came against big country