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MJ vs Lebron......debate over
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What do you think you are doing?
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Jordan also played in a watered down, garbage NBA where half the teams sucked and half the players wouldn't crack a division one team today. LeBron played in the strongest era ever.
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League added 6 new teams during MJ's time, with 2 of them taking up residency in the Bulls division (Magic did for one season too). 12th-13th guys on other benches plus CBA call-ups suddenly became starters.
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What was the weakest decade in your opinion?Havlicekstealsit wrote: ↑Wed May 01, 2024 12:34 pm League added 6 new teams during MJ's time, with 2 of them taking up residency in the Bulls division (Magic did for one season too). 12th-13th guys on other benches plus CBA call-ups suddenly became starters.
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Idk about basketball but the 1998-99 season in the NHL was incredibly weak.Da Stars. wrote: ↑Wed May 01, 2024 12:49 pmWhat was the weakest decade in your opinion?Havlicekstealsit wrote: ↑Wed May 01, 2024 12:34 pm League added 6 new teams during MJ's time, with 2 of them taking up residency in the Bulls division (Magic did for one season too). 12th-13th guys on other benches plus CBA call-ups suddenly became starters.
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Tailhead.PhutureDynasty wrote: ↑Wed May 01, 2024 12:51 pmIdk about basketball but the 1998-99 season in the NHL was incredibly weak.Da Stars. wrote: ↑Wed May 01, 2024 12:49 pmWhat was the weakest decade in your opinion?Havlicekstealsit wrote: ↑Wed May 01, 2024 12:34 pm League added 6 new teams during MJ's time, with 2 of them taking up residency in the Bulls division (Magic did for one season too). 12th-13th guys on other benches plus CBA call-ups suddenly became starters.
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18-19 NHL was goat of course.PhutureDynasty wrote: ↑Wed May 01, 2024 12:58 pmDa Stars. wrote: ↑Wed May 01, 2024 12:53 pmTailhead.PhutureDynasty wrote: ↑Wed May 01, 2024 12:51 pm
Idk about basketball but the 1998-99 season in the NHL was incredibly weak.
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There is no debate fool...
MJ = NBA GOAT
LeBron = smells like a goat
"Today's NBA is soft, the Defense is weak, and the rules 'really' favor the Offense."
"Lebron doesn’t guard for a full game and our game plan was to get him to play defense and he left me open all game."
"Lebron doesn’t guard for a full game and our game plan was to get him to play defense and he left me open all game."
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There's simply been no high-level player in sports history that has such a differential between a) winning on their own merit and b) winning as a function of environment as Michael Jordan.
The gap is literally almost as extreme as you can theoretically get (when playing in normal circumstances = missing playoffs or losing in R1 vs. playing in great circumstances and winning six rings).
When he had to go it alone, on his own merit...he failed literally more than Trae Young as a leading player.
The gap is literally almost as extreme as you can theoretically get (when playing in normal circumstances = missing playoffs or losing in R1 vs. playing in great circumstances and winning six rings).
When he had to go it alone, on his own merit...he failed literally more than Trae Young as a leading player.
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If there was no debate you wouldn't be completely obsessed and compelled to post about the slightest LeBron related thing every single day.thedangerouskitchen wrote: ↑Wed May 01, 2024 3:15 pmThere is no debate fool...
MJ = NBA GOAT
LeBron = smells like a goat
You never liked me, probably don't like me still, but a ***** liking me aint never paid my bills
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Truer words....LeBronMonsterDunk wrote: ↑Wed May 01, 2024 3:22 pmIf there was no debate you wouldn't be completely obsessed and compelled to post about the slightest LeBron related thing every single day.thedangerouskitchen wrote: ↑Wed May 01, 2024 3:15 pmThere is no debate fool...
MJ = NBA GOAT
LeBron = smells like a goat
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Anthony Davis averaged 28/16/4 on 63% shooting and All NBA Defense against the Nuggets.
I searched and searched but couldn't find a single teammate of Jordan's (including Pippen) who put up that kind of production in a playoff series in which Jordan lost.
Sadmess... how about you?
I searched and searched but couldn't find a single teammate of Jordan's (including Pippen) who put up that kind of production in a playoff series in which Jordan lost.
Sadmess... how about you?
"Today's NBA is soft, the Defense is weak, and the rules 'really' favor the Offense."
"Lebron doesn’t guard for a full game and our game plan was to get him to play defense and he left me open all game."
"Lebron doesn’t guard for a full game and our game plan was to get him to play defense and he left me open all game."
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All NBA defense. I guess you didn't notice that Jokic tore him a new asshole?thedangerouskitchen wrote: ↑Wed May 01, 2024 3:28 pm Anthony Davis averaged 28/16/4 on 63% shooting and All NBA Defense against the Nuggets.
I searched and searched but couldn't find a single teammate of Jordan's (including Pippen) who put up that kind of production in a playoff series in which Jordan lost.
Sadmess... how about you?
But if we are being fair, LeBron and AD carried their share. The rest of the crew, not so much. And Denver was just better once you got passed the top 2 on each team.
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Bush is stuck on stupid again... this seems to be an every day event for him lately.Bush4Ever. wrote: ↑Wed May 01, 2024 3:22 pm There's simply been no high-level player in sports history that has such a differential between a) winning on their own merit and b) winning as a function of environment as Michael Jordan.
The gap is literally almost as extreme as you can theoretically get (when playing in normal circumstances = missing playoffs or losing in R1 vs. playing in great circumstances and winning six rings).
When he had to go it alone, on his own merit...he failed literally more than Trae Young as a leading player.
Hope you're okay, bubski.
PS: Please name a player who "won on his own merit" as opposed to "winning as a function of environment" and "going at it alone".. whatever that drivel means, considering basketball is a team sport.
I'll wait.
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"Lebron doesn’t guard for a full game and our game plan was to get him to play defense and he left me open all game."
"Lebron doesn’t guard for a full game and our game plan was to get him to play defense and he left me open all game."
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I do that to get under your skin, LeTot... you and the other LeTots.LeBronMonsterDunk wrote: ↑Wed May 01, 2024 3:22 pmIf there was no debate you wouldn't be completely obsessed and compelled to post about the slightest LeBron related thing every single day.thedangerouskitchen wrote: ↑Wed May 01, 2024 3:15 pmThere is no debate fool...
MJ = NBA GOAT
LeBron = smells like a goat
Clearly it works.
"Today's NBA is soft, the Defense is weak, and the rules 'really' favor the Offense."
"Lebron doesn’t guard for a full game and our game plan was to get him to play defense and he left me open all game."
"Lebron doesn’t guard for a full game and our game plan was to get him to play defense and he left me open all game."
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No dude, you don't. You are seriously obsessed with MJ, the 90s Bulls and are easier to troll than Arty on anything regarding Orlando, which is obviously saying a lot. You pretending otherwise ain't fooling anyone. You are one weird mother fucker.thedangerouskitchen wrote: ↑Wed May 01, 2024 3:35 pmI do that to get under your skin, LeTot... you and the other LeTots.LeBronMonsterDunk wrote: ↑Wed May 01, 2024 3:22 pmIf there was no debate you wouldn't be completely obsessed and compelled to post about the slightest LeBron related thing every single day.thedangerouskitchen wrote: ↑Wed May 01, 2024 3:15 pm
There is no debate fool...
MJ = NBA GOAT
LeBron = smells like a goat
Clearly it works.
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Oh stop, meatball... I've been playing you like a fiddle for yearS but you're too dumb to realize it because you fall for it eeeeeeeevery time. Plus you're not talented enough to troll._Vcsgrizzfan_ wrote: ↑Wed May 01, 2024 3:46 pmNo dude, you don't. You are seriously obsessed with MJ, the 90s Bulls and are easier to troll than Arty on anything regarding Orlando, which is obviously saying a lot. You pretending otherwise ain't fooling anyone. You are one weird mother fucker.thedangerouskitchen wrote: ↑Wed May 01, 2024 3:35 pmI do that to get under your skin, LeTot... you and the other LeTots.LeBronMonsterDunk wrote: ↑Wed May 01, 2024 3:22 pm
If there was no debate you wouldn't be completely obsessed and compelled to post about the slightest LeBron related thing every single day.
Clearly it works.
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"Today's NBA is soft, the Defense is weak, and the rules 'really' favor the Offense."
"Lebron doesn’t guard for a full game and our game plan was to get him to play defense and he left me open all game."
"Lebron doesn’t guard for a full game and our game plan was to get him to play defense and he left me open all game."
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Trae Young made the ECFs in 2021, with his best supporting player as Clint Capela, a player who hasn't even made an all-star team.thedangerouskitchen wrote: ↑Wed May 01, 2024 3:33 pm
PS: Please name a player who "won on his own merit" as opposed to "winning as a function of environment"
Jordan, in five seasons...couldn't even make it beyond the first round without a top 30 all-time player.
If you aren't even a better winner than Trae Young (today's most empty stats player) in regular circumstances, then yes...your winning is 100 percent due to environmental factors.
Note that Pippen did better without Jordan than the reverse.
Note that BOTH Rodman and Grant won rings without Jordan. Jordan won nothing without one of them.
Note that Phil Jackson won five rings without Jordan. Note that Jordan won zero rings without Phil.
EVERY (not some or most....EVERY) main cog of the title winning Bulls teams did better without Jordan than Jordan did without them or an approximate equivalent (like Grant/Rodman).
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