Bush4Ever. wrote: ↑Sun Oct 22, 2023 2:09 pm
The idea of ring inflation is offset to some degree by the fact that his series winning percentage is so high (93% at 27-2, and he missed a chunk of the first series loss), and that he won towards the end of his career with worse teams than his opposition (the 69 Celtics had to play against HCA in *each* playoff series and still won).
Just for my own curiosity, I calculated the average winning percentage (RS) of Russell's playoff opponents.
It was 59.9 percent (little more than a 49 win pace).
That's slightly better than the opponent's winning percentage for the 1991 Bulls (58.2 percent). Probably worse than others for the Bulls when the East had a good team to face in the ECSFs.
The Nuggets last year won a title playing teams that ranged from 42 to 45 wins. In a 30 team league.
It would be interesting to study that year-over-year to see how the RS winning percentages of Russell opponents fared vs. Jordan vs. Magic and Bird and whoever else.
Meh, it's preseason
Teams havent planned any defense for him yet or even strategized yet.
Preseason is for working out kinks, rotation and rosters and working on weaknesses and getting a look at undrafted players. It's not about stopping a particular player on the other team or getting highlight for espn or even winning games.
In fact the spurs should have shut him down after a couple games. No reason to be out there other than for highlight and building up hype
elartman1973 wrote: ↑Sun Oct 22, 2023 2:58 pm
Meh, it's preseason
Teams havent planned any defense for him yet or even strategized yet.
Preseason is for working out kinks, rotation and rosters and working on weaknesses and getting a look at undrafted players. It's not about stopping a particular player on the other team or getting highlight for espn or even winning games.
In fact the spurs should have shut him down after a couple games. No reason to be out there other than for highlight and building up hype
there is no strategy possible to defend him with known laws of physics
Even if you want to wipe-away his scoring because of relative inefficiency and probably having more chances than a normal rookie because of his shit teammates, his defense and rebounding production is excellent, especially considering he plays somewhat reduced minutes.
Edit: Interesting, the current odds give an implied probability of about 65ish percent or so...that's lower than I expected.
Bush4Ever. wrote: ↑Thu Jan 25, 2024 3:53 pm
ROY isn't linked to team success like MVP is.
Wemby will win it going away, health-permitting.
Even if you want to wipe-away his scoring because of relative inefficiency and probably having more chances than a normal rookie because of his shit teammates, his defense and rebounding production is excellent, especially considering he plays somewhat reduced minutes.
Edit: Interesting, the current odds give an implied probability of about 65ish percent or so...that's lower than I expected.
Chet’s number aren’t too far off from him. The traditional stat line favors Wemby but Chet has him beat in a lot of advance measurements and of course much better defensively.
Even though record doesn’t usually come into play. I think the fact the Spurs are on pace to be worse than last year while Thunder may win 60 games may have a small influence.
LeBronMonsterDunk wrote: ↑Thu Jan 25, 2024 3:23 pm
Is he even the consensus #1 rookie in his class so far?
I would still say so. Who is his competition?
I am also assuming you're not including Chet, who I would say is technically last year's rookie class.
Chet didn’t play at all last year so isn’t he considered a rookie for at least ROY?
Didn’t Embiid win Roy in like his 4th year?
I guess you could say Chet is a rookie since it's his first year playing but I don't think he should be eligible for the award. It should go by the most recent draft class' first year playing basketball.
I say that as someone who was biased as fuck for Embiid to win the award (which he didn't, it went to Malcolm Brogdon) and Ben Simmons (who won it over Donovan Mitchell (suck it Carl)).
I openly admit though that I was just defending my own team's player and was biased for them getting it.
