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elartman1973 wrote: Mon Jan 08, 2024 1:39 pm
vcsgrizzfan wrote: Mon Jan 08, 2024 12:11 pm The number of guys who have shot the highest percentage both overall and from 3 playing with LeBron is a very long list. I put one together 6 or 7 years ago, but I'm too lazy to do an update.

One off the top of my head is Mo Williams who outside of his time with LeBron, was a journeyman role player who could never stick as a starter. With LeBron, he was the key second guy. Without LeBron, just a guy.
No Tech...the being Lebrons teammates effect

And Dwight deserved a tech for banging him in the head after the whistle.

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Robceltsfan wrote: Mon Jan 08, 2024 12:02 pm Isn't that what you say with Lebron, TDK? He went to Miami and D-Wade "taught" him how to win?

All of a sudden you don't like that application in this instance???

Make up your mind!!! :lol:
I never said Wade "made" LeBron a better player.
"Today's NBA is soft, the Defense is weak, and the rules 'really' favor the Offense."

"Lebron doesn’t guard for a full game and our game plan was to get him to play defense and he left me open all game."
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thedangerouskitchen wrote: Mon Jan 08, 2024 1:42 pm
Robceltsfan wrote: Mon Jan 08, 2024 12:02 pm Isn't that what you say with Lebron, TDK? He went to Miami and D-Wade "taught" him how to win?

All of a sudden you don't like that application in this instance???

Make up your mind!!! :lol:
I never said Wade "made" LeBron a better player.
Being a "winner" isn't better than being a loser?

WTF are you talking about, drunko? :lol:
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TDK has been autistic as hell lately.

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vcsgrizzfan wrote: Mon Jan 08, 2024 12:11 pm The number of guys who have shot the highest percentage both overall and from 3 playing with LeBron is a very long list. I put one together 6 or 7 years ago, but I'm too lazy to do an update.

One off the top of my head is Mo Williams who outside of his time with LeBron, was a journeyman role player who could never stick as a starter. With LeBron, he was the key second guy. Without LeBron, just a guy.
Williams' 3-pointers last 2 seasons w/Bucks: 1.3 Made on 3.4 Attempts
William' 3-pointers first 2 seasons w/LeBron: 2.3 Made on 5.3 Attempts

So one (1) more Make and one (1) more MISS per game with LeBron. Further, Williams' production didn't improve in any other facet. In fact his other numbers (PPG, REB, AST, STL, etc) actually DECLINED while playing alongside LeBron.
"Today's NBA is soft, the Defense is weak, and the rules 'really' favor the Offense."

"Lebron doesn’t guard for a full game and our game plan was to get him to play defense and he left me open all game."
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thedangerouskitchen wrote: Mon Jan 08, 2024 1:53 pm
vcsgrizzfan wrote: Mon Jan 08, 2024 12:11 pm The number of guys who have shot the highest percentage both overall and from 3 playing with LeBron is a very long list. I put one together 6 or 7 years ago, but I'm too lazy to do an update.

One off the top of my head is Mo Williams who outside of his time with LeBron, was a journeyman role player who could never stick as a starter. With LeBron, he was the key second guy. Without LeBron, just a guy.
Williams' 3-pointers last 2 seasons w/Bucks: 1.3 Made on 3.4 Attempts
William' 3-pointers first 2 seasons w/LeBron: 2.3 Made on 5.3 Attempts

So one (1) more Make and one (1) more MISS per game with LeBron. Further, Williams' production didn't improve in any other facet. In fact his other numbers (PPG, REB, AST, STL, etc) actually DECLINED while playing alongside LeBron.
The motherfucker said "so 1 more make and 1 more miss". ROFLLMFAO.....that's 50% my dude. The Lebron-effect added a better-than-steph-curry 3-point difference to this journeyman's resume.


:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Robceltsfan wrote: Mon Jan 08, 2024 12:25 pm Dwyane Wade:

13 seasons without Lebron James: 46.98%FG

4 seasons with Lebron James: 51.3%FG

LeBron: 7 season w/Out Wade = .475%
LeBron: 4 seasons with Wade = .543%

:shock: :o :shock: :o :shock: :o

:trumphuh:
"Today's NBA is soft, the Defense is weak, and the rules 'really' favor the Offense."

"Lebron doesn’t guard for a full game and our game plan was to get him to play defense and he left me open all game."
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thedangerouskitchen wrote: Mon Jan 08, 2024 1:56 pm
Robceltsfan wrote: Mon Jan 08, 2024 12:25 pm Dwyane Wade:

13 seasons without Lebron James: 46.98%FG

4 seasons with Lebron James: 51.3%FG

LeBron: 7 season w/Out Wade = .475%
LeBron: 4 seasons with Wade = .543%

:shock: :o :shock: :o :shock: :o

:trumphuh:
Lebron only played 7 seasons without Wade???

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Robceltsfan wrote: Mon Jan 08, 2024 1:55 pm
thedangerouskitchen wrote: Mon Jan 08, 2024 1:53 pm
vcsgrizzfan wrote: Mon Jan 08, 2024 12:11 pm The number of guys who have shot the highest percentage both overall and from 3 playing with LeBron is a very long list. I put one together 6 or 7 years ago, but I'm too lazy to do an update.

One off the top of my head is Mo Williams who outside of his time with LeBron, was a journeyman role player who could never stick as a starter. With LeBron, he was the key second guy. Without LeBron, just a guy.
Williams' 3-pointers last 2 seasons w/Bucks: 1.3 Made on 3.4 Attempts
William' 3-pointers first 2 seasons w/LeBron: 2.3 Made on 5.3 Attempts

So one (1) more Make and one (1) more MISS per game with LeBron. Further, Williams' production didn't improve in any other facet. In fact his other numbers (PPG, REB, AST, STL, etc) actually DECLINED while playing alongside LeBron.
The motherfucker said "so 1 more make and 1 more miss". ROFLLMFAO.....that's 50% my dude. The Lebron-effect added a better-than-steph-curry 3-point difference to this journeyman's resume.


:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
...and the LeBron Effect led to a DECLINE in every other statistical facet of Mo's game.

:L
"Today's NBA is soft, the Defense is weak, and the rules 'really' favor the Offense."

"Lebron doesn’t guard for a full game and our game plan was to get him to play defense and he left me open all game."
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thedangerouskitchen wrote: Mon Jan 08, 2024 1:57 pm
Robceltsfan wrote: Mon Jan 08, 2024 1:55 pm
thedangerouskitchen wrote: Mon Jan 08, 2024 1:53 pm

Williams' 3-pointers last 2 seasons w/Bucks: 1.3 Made on 3.4 Attempts
William' 3-pointers first 2 seasons w/LeBron: 2.3 Made on 5.3 Attempts

So one (1) more Make and one (1) more MISS per game with LeBron. Further, Williams' production didn't improve in any other facet. In fact his other numbers (PPG, REB, AST, STL, etc) actually DECLINED while playing alongside LeBron.
The motherfucker said "so 1 more make and 1 more miss". ROFLLMFAO.....that's 50% my dude. The Lebron-effect added a better-than-steph-curry 3-point difference to this journeyman's resume.


:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
...and the LeBron Effect led to a DECLINE in every other statistical facet of Mo's game.

:L
No it didn't, it led to a decline in the amount of time the ball was in that journeyman's hands.....which was apparently a REALLY good thing.

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Robceltsfan wrote: Mon Jan 08, 2024 1:57 pm
thedangerouskitchen wrote: Mon Jan 08, 2024 1:56 pm
Robceltsfan wrote: Mon Jan 08, 2024 12:25 pm Dwyane Wade:

13 seasons without Lebron James: 46.98%FG

4 seasons with Lebron James: 51.3%FG

LeBron: 7 season w/Out Wade = .475%
LeBron: 4 seasons with Wade = .543%

:shock: :o :shock: :o :shock: :o

:trumphuh:
Lebron only played 7 seasons without Wade???

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
His first 7 years in the league, fool... you know what I meant.

In other words Wade "made" LeBron a beter player AND he taugh LeBron how to win.
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Robceltsfan wrote: Mon Jan 08, 2024 1:41 pm
elartman1973 wrote: Mon Jan 08, 2024 1:39 pm
vcsgrizzfan wrote: Mon Jan 08, 2024 12:11 pm The number of guys who have shot the highest percentage both overall and from 3 playing with LeBron is a very long list. I put one together 6 or 7 years ago, but I'm too lazy to do an update.

One off the top of my head is Mo Williams who outside of his time with LeBron, was a journeyman role player who could never stick as a starter. With LeBron, he was the key second guy. Without LeBron, just a guy.
No Tech...the being Lebrons teammates effect

And Dwight deserved a tech for banging him in the head after the whistle.

Next...
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thedangerouskitchen wrote: Mon Jan 08, 2024 1:59 pm
Robceltsfan wrote: Mon Jan 08, 2024 1:57 pm
thedangerouskitchen wrote: Mon Jan 08, 2024 1:56 pm


LeBron: 7 season w/Out Wade = .475%
LeBron: 4 seasons with Wade = .543%

:shock: :o :shock: :o :shock: :o

:trumphuh:
Lebron only played 7 seasons without Wade???

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
His first 7 years in the league, fool... you know what I meant.

In other Wade "made" LeBron a beter player AND he taugh LeBron how to win.
Except Lebron kept shooting the rock at levels well above those first seven years AFTER his time with Wade.....meanwhile, D-Wade immediately went to being WORSE than he was pre-Lebron.

They are not the same...

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Robceltsfan wrote: Mon Jan 08, 2024 1:59 pm
thedangerouskitchen wrote: Mon Jan 08, 2024 1:57 pm
Robceltsfan wrote: Mon Jan 08, 2024 1:55 pm

The motherfucker said "so 1 more make and 1 more miss". ROFLLMFAO.....that's 50% my dude. The Lebron-effect added a better-than-steph-curry 3-point difference to this journeyman's resume.


:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
...and the LeBron Effect led to a DECLINE in every other statistical facet of Mo's game.

:L
No it didn't, it led to a decline in the amount of time the ball was in that journeyman's hands.....which was apparently a REALLY good thing.

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Williams' PPG, REB, AST and STL declined with LeBron vs. his last 2 years with the Bucks.
"Today's NBA is soft, the Defense is weak, and the rules 'really' favor the Offense."

"Lebron doesn’t guard for a full game and our game plan was to get him to play defense and he left me open all game."
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thedangerouskitchen wrote: Mon Jan 08, 2024 2:03 pm
Robceltsfan wrote: Mon Jan 08, 2024 1:59 pm
thedangerouskitchen wrote: Mon Jan 08, 2024 1:57 pm

...and the LeBron Effect led to a DECLINE in every other statistical facet of Mo's game.

:L
No it didn't, it led to a decline in the amount of time the ball was in that journeyman's hands.....which was apparently a REALLY good thing.

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Williams' PPG, REB, AST and STL declined with LeBron vs. his last 2 years with the Bucks.
What part of "decline in his time with the ball in his hands" didn't you understand???

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Mo Williams had higher points/possession his first two years with Lebron compared to the two years prior to playing with Lebron, as well as a higher EFG+
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Fun Fact: BJ Armstrong made one all star game. In a year MJ took off. Mo Williams made one all star game. In one of the two years he played with LeBron.
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Robceltsfan wrote: Mon Jan 08, 2024 2:01 pm
thedangerouskitchen wrote: Mon Jan 08, 2024 1:59 pm
Robceltsfan wrote: Mon Jan 08, 2024 1:57 pm

Lebron only played 7 seasons without Wade???

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
His first 7 years in the league, fool... you know what I meant.

In other Wade "made" LeBron a beter player AND he taugh LeBron how to win.
Except Lebron kept shooting the rock at levels well above those first seven years AFTER his time with Wade.....meanwhile, D-Wade immediately went to being WORSE than he was pre-Lebron.

They are not the same...

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
:goalposts: :goalposts: :goalposts:

Wave that white flag of defeat.

LeBron went from a 47-48% shooter pre Wade to a 54% shooter with Wade.

Fact.

:pimp: :pimp:
"Today's NBA is soft, the Defense is weak, and the rules 'really' favor the Offense."

"Lebron doesn’t guard for a full game and our game plan was to get him to play defense and he left me open all game."
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Bush4Ever. wrote: Mon Jan 08, 2024 2:06 pm Mo Williams had higher points/possession his first two years with Lebron compared to the two years prior to playing with Lebron, as well as a higher EFG+
No one cares about your made-up stats... unless you've got one that adjusts for all those "fake" Assists LeBron has been awarded all these years??

:lol:
"Today's NBA is soft, the Defense is weak, and the rules 'really' favor the Offense."

"Lebron doesn’t guard for a full game and our game plan was to get him to play defense and he left me open all game."
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