How many rings could Tom Brady have had with competent coaching?

[vcsgrizzfan]

Now that it has been established that Belichick is a fraud coach who can't coach beyond Pop Warner leagues, how many rings do you think the GOAT Brady could have won with better coaching. I put the over/under at 10. What say you?

[Robceltsfan]

Just so everyone is clear as to what we're talking about:

In 10 seasons without Tom Brady on the roster, Bill Belichek went 70-93 with ONE total playoff victory.

In 19 seasons with Tom Brady on the roster, Bill Belichek went 232-68 with SIX Superbowl vitories.

[Bush4Ever.]

Why would someone troll on a Tom Brady topic?

Seems like a pointless waste of time, IMO.

[Da Stars.]

Undefeated. at least 17.

[vcsgrizzfan]

Undefeated. at least 17.

Interesting opinion. But that's definitely too high. I'm sticking with 10.

[Da Stars.]

Undefeated. at least 17.

Interesting opinion. But that's definitely too high. I'm sticking with 10.

My opinion is fact and dont you forgit.

[PhutureDynasty]

Super Bowl rings separate from one another (which is what matters most in football).

Tom Brady - 1

Bill Belichick - 2

Checkmate

[vcsgrizzfan]

Super Bowl rings separate from one another (which is what matters most in football).

Tom Brady - 1

Bill Belichick - 2

Checkmate

Assistant coach rings under a truly good head coach (Parcells) don't count. Sooooo, Brady 1, Bill Belichick 0. An infinite difference.

Bill has had a ton of head coaching seasons without Brady to prove what type of head coach he is. Sadly, he sucks.

It is what it is.

[PhutureDynasty]

Super Bowl rings separate from one another (which is what matters most in football).

Tom Brady - 1

Bill Belichick - 2

Checkmate

Assistant coach rings under a truly good head coach (Parcells) don't count. Sooooo, Brady 1, Bill Belichick 0. An infinite difference.

Bill has had a ton of head coaching seasons without Brady to prove what type of head coach he is. Sadly, he sucks.

It is what it is.

If you're so easily able to dismiss him being a coordinator than I am able to easily dismiss the mediocre at best rosters Bill has had as a HC without Brady.

So now we're back to basic math which is that 2 is greater than a measly 1.

[vcsgrizzfan]

Super Bowl rings separate from one another (which is what matters most in football).

Tom Brady - 1

Bill Belichick - 2

Checkmate

Assistant coach rings under a truly good head coach (Parcells) don't count. Sooooo, Brady 1, Bill Belichick 0. An infinite difference.

Bill has had a ton of head coaching seasons without Brady to prove what type of head coach he is. Sadly, he sucks.

It is what it is.

If you're so easily able to dismiss him being a coordinator than I am able to easily dismiss the mediocre at best rosters Bill has had as a HC without Brady.

So now we're back to basic math which is that 2 is greater than a measly 1.

ah no. The sample size for fraud Billy without Brady is 163 games with a record of 70-93. That is 10 full freaking seasons. He just sucks without the GOAT.

[PhutureDynasty]

Assistant coach rings under a truly good head coach (Parcells) don't count. Sooooo, Brady 1, Bill Belichick 0. An infinite difference.

Bill has had a ton of head coaching seasons without Brady to prove what type of head coach he is. Sadly, he sucks.

It is what it is.

If you're so easily able to dismiss him being a coordinator than I am able to easily dismiss the mediocre at best rosters Bill has had as a HC without Brady.

So now we're back to basic math which is that 2 is greater than a measly 1.

ah no. The sample size for fraud Billy without Brady is 163 games with a record of 70-93. That is 10 full freaking seasons. He just sucks without the GOAT.

Oh but yes, my friend.

I learned way back in kindergarten, maybe even earlier, about basic arithmetic.



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[PhutureDynasty]

Also, Bill's coaching career lasted longer than Brady's playing career.

That is the ultimate checkmate of epic proportions.

[thedangerouskitchen]

I think the better question is: How many SB's does Tom Brady win if he played in Joe Montana's day, when the QB's weren't pampered and coddled like a baby the way they were/are in Brady's day?

[Robceltsfan]

I think the better question is: How many SB's does Tom Brady win if he played in Joe Montana's day, when the QB's weren't pampered and coddled like a baby the way they were/are in Brady's day?

5-7

[PhutureDynasty]

I think the better question is: How many SB's does Tom Brady win if he played in Joe Montana's day, when the QB's weren't pampered and coddled like a baby the way they were/are in Brady's day?

I honestly don't dislike Tom Brady at all and I feel like I being unbiased when I say he'd probably get 1 or 2 rings in that era.

That's reasonable.

[AlaskaHawks]

How many would he have if they didn't spy on their opponents and deflate footballs?

[Da Stars.]

I think the better question is: How many SB's does Tom Brady win if he played in Joe Montana's day, when the QB's weren't pampered and coddled like a baby the way they were/are in Brady's day?

5-7

Dream on. Those championship NFC teams all had better defenses than the AFC teams.

[vcsgrizzfan]

I think the better question is: How many SB's does Tom Brady win if he played in Joe Montana's day, when the QB's weren't pampered and coddled like a baby the way they were/are in Brady's day?

5-7

Dream on. Those championship NFC teams all had better defenses than the AFC teams.

More like a dozen. He's so far superior to the guys of that era, it's ridiculous.

[thedangerouskitchen]

I think the better question is: How many SB's does Tom Brady win if he played in Joe Montana's day, when the QB's weren't pampered and coddled like a baby the way they were/are in Brady's day?

5-7

Highly unlikely, given the fact that in Brady's day he could sit in the pocket all day and not worry about a 250-pound LB running full speeed, leading helmet-first, driving him straight into the ground, and then landing right on top of him for good measure.

In other words there is a HUGE advantage with respect to the mindset of a QB who knows he's protected and coddled vs. playing with the fear of knowing after any given snap he could very easily be carted off in a stretcher... and that mindset can't help but translate into higher QB Efficiency, leading to better production and more Wins.

Oh, and God forbid you put Brady on an 80's team with a horrible Offensive Line!!! Feeeeerget about it! He'd be so scared he'd have to change his drawers 5-6 times a game.

[vcsgrizzfan]

I think the better question is: How many SB's does Tom Brady win if he played in Joe Montana's day, when the QB's weren't pampered and coddled like a baby the way they were/are in Brady's day?

5-7

Highly unlikely, given the fact that in Brady's day he could sit in the pocket all day and not worry about a 250-pound LB running full speeed, leading helmet-first, driving him straight into the ground, and then landing right on top of him for good measure.

In other words there is a HUGE advantage with respect to the mindset of a QB who knows he's protected and coddled vs. playing with the fear of knowing after any given snap he could very easily be carted off in a stretcher... and that mindset can't help but translate into higher QB Efficiency, leading to better production and more Wins.

Oh, and God forbid you put Brady on an 80's team with a horrible Offensive Line!!! Feeeeerget about it! He'd be so scared he'd have to change his drawers 5-6 times a game.

Brady has led the league in time to throw many times. Even as an old man with slower reflexes, he led the league at 2.45 seconds in 2022.