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Unless you're making the argument that Pippen is the GOAT, I'm not sure what your post has to do with LeCommie being on the verge of missing the Playoffs 25% of his career... but regardless, your post is wrong on all accounts.Bush4Ever. wrote: ↑Thu Oct 20, 2022 9:37 am Jordan played five seasons without Scottie Pippen.
In each of those seasons, he led his team to a sub .500 record.
Jordan literally had five chances to lead a team to a winning record without Pippen, and failed each and every single time.thedangerouskitchen wrote: ↑Thu Oct 20, 2022 11:10 pmUnless you're making the argument that Pippen is the GOAT, I'm not sure what your post has to do with LeCommie being on the verge of missing the Playoffs 25% of his career.Bush4Ever. wrote: ↑Thu Oct 20, 2022 9:37 am Jordan played five seasons without Scottie Pippen.
In each of those seasons, he led his team to a sub .500 record.
LolBush4Ever. wrote: ↑Fri Oct 21, 2022 11:45 amJordan literally had five chances to lead a team to a winning record without Pippen, and failed each and every single time.thedangerouskitchen wrote: ↑Thu Oct 20, 2022 11:10 pmUnless you're making the argument that Pippen is the GOAT, I'm not sure what your post has to do with LeCommie being on the verge of missing the Playoffs 25% of his career.Bush4Ever. wrote: ↑Thu Oct 20, 2022 9:37 am Jordan played five seasons without Scottie Pippen.
In each of those seasons, he led his team to a sub .500 record.
In most years, winning 38 or 40 games isn't making the playoffs.
Even being generous and counting 1995, Jordan had a sub .500 record in 5/15 seasons (33%) and 100 percent of seasons without Scottie Pippen.
Jordan, as a third-year 23 year old couldn't generate a winning record for his team.
In 2020, a 20 year old second-year Luka won the equivalent of 47 games and made the playoffs.
Jordan's record as a winner is hyper-hyper specific to:
1. Having the best supporting cast
2. Having a top 30ish all-time player
3. Having a top 3ish coach
4. Playing in a weak era
5. Playing in an era with zero legendary teams
When those conditions weren't met, he struggle to even make the playoffs or win a playoff series.
These are historical facts and cannot be argued against.
Bush4Ever. wrote: ↑Fri Oct 21, 2022 11:45 amJordan literally had five chances to lead a team to a winning record without Pippen, and failed each and every single time.thedangerouskitchen wrote: ↑Thu Oct 20, 2022 11:10 pmUnless you're making the argument that Pippen is the GOAT, I'm not sure what your post has to do with LeCommie being on the verge of missing the Playoffs 25% of his career.Bush4Ever. wrote: ↑Thu Oct 20, 2022 9:37 am Jordan played five seasons without Scottie Pippen.
In each of those seasons, he led his team to a sub .500 record.
In most years, winning 38 or 40 games isn't making the playoffs.
Even being generous and counting 1995, Jordan had a sub .500 record in 5/15 seasons (33%) and 100 percent of seasons without Scottie Pippen.
Jordan, as a third-year 23 year old couldn't generate a winning record for his team.
In 2020, a 20 year old second-year Luka won the equivalent of 47 games and made the playoffs.
Jordan's record as a winner is hyper-hyper specific to:
1. Having the best supporting cast
2. Having a top 30ish all-time player
3. Having a top 3ish coach
4. Playing in a weak era
5. Playing in an era with zero legendary teams
When those conditions weren't met, he struggle to even make the playoffs or win a playoff series.
These are historical facts and cannot be argued against.
Five chances too.
Pippen = GOAT... I can dig it.