Anyone know how the Russia/Ukraine war is going?

[Sudanese Sensation]

If Russia's winning I'd hate to see what losing looks like.

Russia is not going full blast. the strategy is to occupy and permanently control Ukraine. this is why it is intentionally moving from countryside to City.
Russia can easily carpet bomb the Ukraine into smithereens if it so chooses, just like the Israelis can do the same to the Palestinians. The goal of this military undertaking by Russia is much more nuanced.

Putin told Xi the war would be over in three days.

[LNS]

Russia is not going full blast. the strategy is to occupy and permanently control Ukraine. this is why it is intentionally moving from countryside to City.
Russia can easily carpet bomb the Ukraine into smithereens if it so chooses, just like the Israelis can do the same to the Palestinians. The goal of this military undertaking by Russia is much more nuanced.

Uhhh… I mean isn’t the goal to not rule rubble afterwards? That’s like saying the US could’ve won Vietnam by sending a few nukes up Charlie’s ass.

err yes.

So the Russian strategy is to keep piling up losses?

[AtiliusRegulus]

Uhhh… I mean isn’t the goal to not rule rubble afterwards? That’s like saying the US could’ve won Vietnam by sending a few nukes up Charlie’s ass.

err yes.

So the Russian strategy is to keep piling up losses?

no, its for a permanent control. the strategy is akin to the strategy they used in chechnya. and why are you backing homo supporting zelensky. thought you were alpha.

[LNS]

err yes.

So the Russian strategy is to keep piling up losses?

no, its for a permanent control. the strategy is akin to the strategy they used in chechnya. and why are you backing homo supporting zelensky. thought you were alpha.

Isn’t your son a faggot?

[Robceltsfan]

So the Russian strategy is to keep piling up losses?

no, its for a permanent control. the strategy is akin to the strategy they used in chechnya. and why are you backing homo supporting zelensky. thought you were alpha.

Isn’t your son a faggot?

lol

[AtiliusRegulus]

So the Russian strategy is to keep piling up losses?

no, its for a permanent control. the strategy is akin to the strategy they used in chechnya. and why are you backing homo supporting zelensky. thought you were alpha.

Isn’t your son a faggot?

[LNS]

no, its for a permanent control. the strategy is akin to the strategy they used in chechnya. and why are you backing homo supporting zelensky. thought you were alpha.

Isn’t your son a faggot?

So he finally got laid?

[AtiliusRegulus]

If Russia's winning I'd hate to see what losing looks like.

Russia is not going full blast. the strategy is to occupy and permanently control Ukraine. this is why it is intentionally moving from countryside to City.
Russia can easily carpet bomb the Ukraine into smithereens if it so chooses, just like the Israelis can do the same to the Palestinians. The goal of this military undertaking by Russia is much more nuanced.

Putin told Xi the war would be over in three days.

and American media told you this smh

[Sudanese Sensation]

In Gulf War One America , which did most of the heavy lifting, and its allies defeated Iraq which had at the time the fourth largest military in the world while losing only one hundred and fifty or so soldiers, and those soldiers were killed when Saddam got a lucky hit with a Scud Missile that hit soldiers sleeping in their barracks. They also owned the skies above Iraq in the first few days of the operation. In fact Iraq flew some of their planes to Iran to store them so they wouldn't get hit. Russia still hasn't established air superiority and the Ukraine air force is to air forces what the Orlando Magic is to basketball.

[ripper76]

[LNS]

Retired General Keane is saying it’s at a stalemate.

What's happened here is we have a stalemate in the North in the battle for Kyiv and also the battle for Kharkiv, so much so that all offensive operations in both of those areas by the Russians have just stopped. They know full well that they are not able to complete the encirclement of either one of those cities and bring in their artillery, which would be the main element to hammer the city itself and create a devastation there. So what's actually happening then?

What they're doing is they're bringing more troops from the Eastern Military District. They've arrived in Belarus, and they're crossing the border into Ukraine. There will be fresh troops, not particularly better than what's already there, to be frank about it — poorly led, poorly trained, likely having low morale, not knowing why they're there, but they're going to put them into the fight. There's also their best military organization as the first guards tank army based in the vicinity of Moscow. They've had a couple of the smaller elements from them in the fight early on. Now they're bringing larger elements out. This is the organization that keeps Putin in power at all costs. So the fact that they have committing them into this fight indicates that they really intend to still take those cities physically. They have not given up on that.


All part of the plan though, I’m sure.

[ripper76]

We've had a good 6 straight years now of almost everything the US government and media tell us being proven to be distortions or outright lies. Yet people are still eager to accept what they say about something so inherently ambiguous as the reality of events under the fog of war? It's mind boggling. Alot of people might be surprised once reality catches up and truth comes out, but by that time there will be some new manufactured or intentionally provoked crisis happening and yesterdays lies will be forgotten. That seems to be the game plan at this point.

[Sudanese Sensation]

They have sugar queues in Russia. Even artman's beloved Cuba doesn't have lines for sugar.

[LNS]

We've had a good 6 straight years now of almost everything the US government and media tell us being proven to be distortions or outright lies. Yet people are still eager to accept what they say about something so inherently ambiguous as the reality of events under the fog of war? It's mind boggling. Alot of people might be surprised once reality catches up and truth comes out, but by that time there will be some new manufactured or intentionally provoked crisis happening and yesterdays lies will be forgotten. That seems to be the game plan at this point.

I mean… if literally every media source is false, then does every piece of info not hold up? Or only what you personally agree/disagree with?

And in that case why even discuss any hot button topics at all? It’s possible to piecemeal info together using different sources, no?

[ripper76]

We've had a good 6 straight years now of almost everything the US government and media tell us being proven to be distortions or outright lies. Yet people are still eager to accept what they say about something so inherently ambiguous as the reality of events under the fog of war? It's mind boggling. Alot of people might be surprised once reality catches up and truth comes out, but by that time there will be some new manufactured or intentionally provoked crisis happening and yesterdays lies will be forgotten. That seems to be the game plan at this point.

I mean… if literally every media source is false, then does every piece of info not hold up? Or only what you personally agree/disagree with?

And in that case why even discuss any hot button topics at all? It’s possible to piecemeal info together using different sources, no?

Well that's the thing, the best and most effective lies contain some truth along with intentional misdirection and omissions. The truth is out there to be pieced together but you can spend a lot of time sifting through it all and never really be certain you've hit upon it. I am certain though that the US media and government are some of the worst offenders. They've proven it time and time again in recent history, so I take nothing coming from any of them to be honest.

The only real purpose in discussing hot button topics at this point is to troll artman and his ilk.

I'm going to go fire up the grill and hang out on the deck with my family.

[americaninfidel]

The Russians are now on their twenty fifth day of their mission to take Kyiv in two days.

Sounds like the Orlando FO is running things.

[vcsgrizzfan]

The Russians are now on their twenty fifth day of their mission to take Kyiv in two days.

Sounds like the Orlando FO is running things.

I laughed.

[elartman1973]

Just had dinner at a local ukranian restaurant to show our support

[Sudanese Sensation]

The Russians are now on their twenty fifth day of their mission to take Kyiv in two days.

Sounds like the Orlando FO is running things.

If it was our friend arty he would say the setbacks were part of the plan.

[Alex_Murphy]

Just had dinner at a local ukranian restaurant to show our support

No you didn't.