rileymartin wrote:So lets say guys like Rob, Carl, Abe et. al. were sitting in their living rooms after a hard days work, and the cops showed up, knocked on their door and said "hey, we aren't sure if you live here. Can you please prove to us that this is your home"
The guy was well within his right to be where he was, and the 4th amendment protects him from having to comply with an unecessary and unwarranted papers check, especially when the property manager already confirmed he was a resident.
rileymartin wrote:OK, lets make it your front yard then.
The guy was well within his right to be where he was, and the 4th amendment protects him from having to comply with an unecessary and unwarranted papers check, especially when the property manager already confirmed he was a resident.
She verbally asked his address. No paper check.
Keep reaching....you'll get there eventually.
Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are dumber than that.
rileymartin wrote:OK, lets make it your front yard then.
The guy was well within his right to be where he was, and the 4th amendment protects him from having to comply with an unecessary and unwarranted papers check, especially when the property manager already confirmed he was a resident.
She verbally asked his address. No paper check.
Keep reaching....you'll get there eventually.
Again, once the property manager confirmed he was a resident, why didn't it end right there?
I was pulled over once with a buddy and the cops drew their weapons on us, put us in handcuffs and separated us as they began to ask about guns in our car. As I stood on the side of the freeway, in handcuffs, I calmly told them I didn't own a gun and they were free to search my car if they wanted. They did search the car and they didn't find a gun so the let us go. They said there was a report that we were brandishing a weapon and pointing it at people on the road. I recognized the mistake, laughed it off and went home with no further repercussions.
I feel my dignity was still intact when I got home. The cops were just doing their job and taking the necessary precautions. They were dickheads the entire time they were doing it and were even worse when they were proven wrong but why should I stoop to their level?
rileymartin wrote:OK, lets make it your front yard then.
The guy was well within his right to be where he was, and the 4th amendment protects him from having to comply with an unecessary and unwarranted papers check, especially when the property manager already confirmed he was a resident.
She verbally asked his address. No paper check.
Keep reaching....you'll get there eventually.
Again, once the property manager confirmed he was a resident, why didn't it end right there?
Because he didn't let it end. He kept on bitching about it. "I don't care to hear you talk". "Black people get killed by police". He kept right on bitching and moaning....and at that point was being unruly. The manager asked him to leave (she has other tenants to worry about as well) and he refused and became confrontational.
Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are dumber than that.
Again, once the property manager confirmed he was a resident, why didn't it end right there?
Because he didn't let it end. He kept on bitching about it. "I don't care to hear you talk". "Black people get killed by police". He kept right on bitching and moaning....and at that point was being unruly. The manager asked him to leave (she has other tenants to worry about as well) and he refused and became confrontational.
Finally watched the video. I disagree with Rob. As soon as the manager said he lives here, the cop should have just said, "Ok, thank you mam. Have a nice day sir." He can say whatever he wants after that point. It should be done.
Kingcarl24 wrote:Finally watched the video. I disagree with Rob. As soon as the manager said he lives here, the cop should have just said, "Ok, thank you mam. Have a nice day sir." He can say whatever he wants after that point. It should be done.
To be fair... the cop really didn't say much at all after the manager arrived... except to acknowledge that she did ask others around the pool the same question... up to the point where the manager kicked him out.
Still don't know what the cop/guard did wrong in this situation. The manager? Maybe a different issue.
If anyone wants a low-level example of how the Nazis continually expanded their power in pre-ww2 Germany with hardly a peer from the citizens, all you have to do is look at this thread.
Obscene displays of force will always bring out the bootlickers and people who find refuge in hiding behind the man with gun like a good little boy.
Kingcarl24 wrote:Finally watched the video. I disagree with Rob. As soon as the manager said he lives here, the cop should have just said, "Ok, thank you mam. Have a nice day sir." He can say whatever he wants after that point. It should be done.
To be fair... the cop really didn't say much at all after the manager arrived... except to acknowledge that she did ask others around the pool the same question... up to the point where the manager kicked him out.
Still don't know what the cop/guard did wrong in this situation. The manager? Maybe a different issue.
The cop should have walked away and asked others if they were residents of the pool. There was no reason for her to stick around.
Bush4Ever35 wrote:If anyone wants a low-level example of how the Nazis continually expanded their power in pre-ww2 Germany with hardly a peer from the citizens, all you have to do is look at this thread.
Obscene displays of force will always bring out the bootlickers and people who find refuge in hiding behind the man with gun like a good little boy.
Just sayin'....
I don't think my eyes could have rolled any harder than they did reading this post.
