Rolling the ball halfway down the court
Rolling the ball halfway down the court
should be delay of game.
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Re: Rolling the ball halfway down the court
What would it be delaying, especially if the defense isn't even on that half of the court?
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Re: Rolling the ball halfway down the court
These new Thunder fans aren't very smart.Havlicekstealsit wrote:What would it be delaying, especially if the defense isn't even on that half of the court?
Re: Rolling the ball halfway down the court
It's delaying if the clock isn't moving.Havlicekstealsit wrote:What would it be delaying, especially if the defense isn't even on that half of the court?
Re: Rolling the ball halfway down the court
Do you mean when they inbound the ball and roll it to get up the court without time running off the clock?TheStig wrote:should be delay of game.
If so your teammate must get the ball before the 5 second violation.
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Yeah that's what I'm talking about.Smelters wrote:Do you mean when they inbound the ball and roll it to get up the court without time running off the clock?TheStig wrote:should be delay of game.
If so your teammate must get the ball before the 5 second violation.
Re: Rolling the ball halfway down the court
Yeah you can roll the ball down court as long as the ball is touched before the 5 second count.TheStig wrote:Yeah that's what I'm talking about.Smelters wrote:Do you mean when they inbound the ball and roll it to get up the court without time running off the clock?TheStig wrote:should be delay of game.
If so your teammate must get the ball before the 5 second violation.
I think sometimes refs forget to keep counting when someone starts rolling the ball.
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Re: Rolling the ball halfway down the court
Defenses should put a guy up on the player receiving the inbounds pass. That always forces the offensive player to pick the ball up.
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Re: Rolling the ball halfway down the court
I'm asking what is it delaying if there's zero defensive presence on that side of the court in the first place? No plays are being made on the ball and that's maybe 4-5 seconds at best. Considering most teams shoot it before the shotclock reaches 5 seconds these days does it really matter? Those 4-5 seconds the clock runs off simply means they chuck it with 12 left rather than 8.TheStig wrote:It's delaying if the clock isn't moving.Havlicekstealsit wrote:What would it be delaying, especially if the defense isn't even on that half of the court?
If the defense doesn't want them rolling the ball then they will actively place defenders on that side to get it. They don't, so theyre just as complicit.
Re: Rolling the ball halfway down the court
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Re: Rolling the ball halfway down the court
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Perfect example. What invisible force field was somehow prohibiting that Magic defender from applying pressure on the ball? Don't want the ball rolled up? Get defenders over there. It's that simple.
Re: Rolling the ball halfway down the court
I agree that the defense should put pressure to stop it but if there's 5 seconds to inbound but the ball is rolling for 12 seconds it should either be a delay of game or 5 second violation. They call a delay of game on a team that touches the ball after a made basket but not something like this.Havlicekstealsit wrote:I'm asking what is it delaying if there's zero defensive presence on that side of the court in the first place? No plays are being made on the ball and that's maybe 4-5 seconds at best. Considering most teams shoot it before the shotclock reaches 5 seconds these days does it really matter? Those 4-5 seconds the clock runs off simply means they chuck it with 12 left rather than 8.TheStig wrote:It's delaying if the clock isn't moving.Havlicekstealsit wrote:What would it be delaying, especially if the defense isn't even on that half of the court?
If the defense doesn't want them rolling the ball then they will actively place defenders on that side to get it. They don't, so theyre just as complicit.
Re: Rolling the ball halfway down the court
Perfect example. What invisible force field was somehow prohibiting that Magic defender from applying pressure on the ball? Don't want the ball rolled up? Get defenders over there. It's that simple.[/quote]
I'm not hating on Bron here but just trying to explain the rules. That should have been a 5 second violation.
I'm not hating on Bron here but just trying to explain the rules. That should have been a 5 second violation.
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Re: Rolling the ball halfway down the court
I'm not hating on Bron here but just trying to explain the rules. That should have been a 5 second violation.[/quote]Smelters wrote:Perfect example. What invisible force field was somehow prohibiting that Magic defender from applying pressure on the ball? Don't want the ball rolled up? Get defenders over there. It's that simple.
Eh, I didn't think the footage cut back in time enough to time it ourselves, but you're right.
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Re: Rolling the ball halfway down the court
How is it a five second violation? It's a live ball. Anyone can grab it. If you have the ball out of bounds, nobody can touch so you have five seconds to inbound it.
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Re: Rolling the ball halfway down the court
Once the ball leaves the inbounder's hands the ball has been inbounded. There is no 5 second violation no matter how long it takes for the clock to start. This is an utterly useless thread.
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When taking the ball out, the team with the ball must gain possession of the ball before 5 seconds. Of course if the defending team pick it up it's their ball.
That's why in the video the announcer asked for a 5 second call and there should have been. It's one of those plays that the refs even forget sometimes.
I was on a team and this happened to us as the backup point guard let the ball roll and the ref called a 5 second violation. He explained it to us and the coach. I asked different officials in other games about this and they agreed.
That's why in the video the announcer asked for a 5 second call and there should have been. It's one of those plays that the refs even forget sometimes.
I was on a team and this happened to us as the backup point guard let the ball roll and the ref called a 5 second violation. He explained it to us and the coach. I asked different officials in other games about this and they agreed.
Re: Rolling the ball halfway down the court
Learn the rules jabroni.Smelters wrote:Yeah you can roll the ball down court as long as the ball is touched before the 5 second count.TheStig wrote:Yeah that's what I'm talking about.Smelters wrote: Do you mean when they inbound the ball and roll it to get up the court without time running off the clock?
If so your teammate must get the ball before the 5 second violation.
I think sometimes refs forget to keep counting when someone starts rolling the ball.
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Re: Rolling the ball halfway down the court
explain then.l3bron wrote:Learn the rules jabroni.Smelters wrote:Yeah you can roll the ball down court as long as the ball is touched before the 5 second count.TheStig wrote: Yeah that's what I'm talking about.
I think sometimes refs forget to keep counting when someone starts rolling the ball.
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Re: Rolling the ball halfway down the court
No. The ball has to leave the inbounder's hands within 5 seconds. If the inbounder waits 4 seconds and then throws the ball inbounds and is deflected by a defender and eventually gains possession after a scramble, it's not a 5 second violation. If the inbounder waits 4 seconds and then tosses a long crosscourt heave that takes 3 seconds to land, it's not a 5 second violation.Smelters wrote:When taking the ball out, the team with the ball must gain possession of the ball before 5 seconds. Of course if the defending team pick it up it's their ball.
That's why in the video the announcer asked for a 5 second call and there should have been. It's one of those plays that the refs even forget sometimes.
I was on a team and this happened to us as the backup point guard let the ball roll and the ref called a 5 second violation. He explained it to us and the coach. I asked different officials in other games about this and they agreed.
You don't know what you're talking about.