Question for Athiests:
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Question for Athiests:
Please have the open mindedness to go to the Gospels of Matthew Mark Luke and John. Read them for yourself and ask yourself. Does the historical evidence point to Jesus being a fraud? If it does, reject Him. I wouldn't blame you.
Or does the historical evidence point to Jesus being reliable. If it does, put your faith in Him.
I'm not seeing the disconnect here. Jesus is well-documented. Use your "intellect" and question these things and make a decision for or against Him.
Or does the historical evidence point to Jesus being reliable. If it does, put your faith in Him.
I'm not seeing the disconnect here. Jesus is well-documented. Use your "intellect" and question these things and make a decision for or against Him.
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Re: Question for Athiests:
I hate bible thumpers like yourself...
Everyone has a right to think anyway they chose to so STOP trying to make people see things your way...
Everyone has a right to think anyway they chose to so STOP trying to make people see things your way...
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Re: Question for Athiests:
The Bible is science fiction and highly metaphorical. Jesus existed, but didn't do the shit your gullible ass thinks he did.
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Re: Question for Athiests:
Go to the source documents. The evidence of who He was, what He did and how He died and rose again is documented.Robceltsfan wrote:The Bible is science fiction and highly metaphorical. Jesus existed, but didn't do the shit your gullible ass thinks he did.
What, you have selective beliefs about historical events? Are you a history revisionist, Robert?
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Re: Question for Athiests:
What proof do you have other than a book that was written after the fact?CleveTown™ wrote:Go to the source documents. The evidence of who He was, what He did and how He died and rose again is documented.Robceltsfan wrote:The Bible is science fiction and highly metaphorical. Jesus existed, but didn't do the shit your gullible ass thinks he did.
What, you have selective beliefs about historical events? Are you a history revisionist, Robert?
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Re: Question for Athiests:
I present the info, do as you want with it. im not making you believe anything, demoness.denali4eva wrote:I hate bible thumpers like yourself...
Everyone has a right to think anyway they chose to so STOP trying to make people see things your way...
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Re: Question for Athiests:
Now given who you are, Im not sure if you're that stupid IRL, and maybe you won't read this, but here anyway is a link to NON-BIBICAL accounts of Jesus and his death.rileymartin wrote:What proof do you have other than a book that was written after the fact?CleveTown™ wrote:Go to the source documents. The evidence of who He was, what He did and how He died and rose again is documented.Robceltsfan wrote:The Bible is science fiction and highly metaphorical. Jesus existed, but didn't do the shit your gullible ass thinks he did.
What, you have selective beliefs about historical events? Are you a history revisionist, Robert?
Read it. it's short:
http://www.bethinking.org/jesus/ancient ... an-sources" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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Re: Question for Athiests:
the info you are presenting has not been proven. Even you yourself can only claim to have faith that it is real...CleveTown™ wrote:I present the info, do as you want with it. im not making you believe anything, demoness.denali4eva wrote:I hate bible thumpers like yourself...
Everyone has a right to think anyway they chose to so STOP trying to make people see things your way...
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http://www.bethinking.org/jesus/ancient ... an-sources" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;rileymartin wrote:the info you are presenting has not been proven. Even you yourself can only claim to have faith that it is real...CleveTown™ wrote:I present the info, do as you want with it. im not making you believe anything, demoness.denali4eva wrote:I hate bible thumpers like yourself...
Everyone has a right to think anyway they chose to so STOP trying to make people see things your way...
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Re: Question for Athiests:
I have no doubt that Jesus existed.CleveTown™ wrote:Now given who you are, Im not sure if you're that stupid IRL, and maybe you won't read this, but here anyway is a link to NON-BIBICAL accounts of Jesus and his death.rileymartin wrote:What proof do you have other than a book that was written after the fact?CleveTown™ wrote: Go to the source documents. The evidence of who He was, what He did and how He died and rose again is documented.
What, you have selective beliefs about historical events? Are you a history revisionist, Robert?
Read it. it's short:
http://www.bethinking.org/jesus/ancient ... an-sources" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Re: Question for Athiests:
The world will be better off once people stop believing in fairy tales
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Re: Question for Athiests:
No matter how many times clevey deflects, the fact of the matter is, there is absolutely no proof that what the bible says is real. He may have FAITH that it is real, but nothing more.
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riiiiiight fairy tales that have been described by non-Christians OUTSIDE of the Bible during Jesus' day. uh huh.linsomnia wrote:The world will be better off once people stop believing in fairy tales
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what am I deflecting? I hit your argument head on and gave you a link which states numerous people not affiliated with the bible in any way who gave accounts of Jesus and His death. Stop playing dumb with me, boy.rileymartin wrote:No matter how many times clevey deflects, the fact of the matter is, there is absolutely no proof that what the bible says is real. He may have FAITH that it is real, but nothing more.
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If God loves us so much, why is the world such a terrible place? Why the need for suffering and devastation?... Oh. free will...
If God is so powerful, why not just reveal himself and erase any doubt?... oh, you need to have faith...
If God is so powerful, why not just reveal himself and erase any doubt?... oh, you need to have faith...
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As I said kiddo, Jesus was a real man...but so was David Koresh, So was Jim Jones.CleveTown™ wrote:what am I deflecting? I hit your argument head on and gave you a link which states numerous people not affiliated with the bible in any way who gave accounts of Jesus and His death. Stop playing dumb with me, boy.rileymartin wrote:No matter how many times clevey deflects, the fact of the matter is, there is absolutely no proof that what the bible says is real. He may have FAITH that it is real, but nothing more.
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God can reveal Himself and He did! in the bodily form of Jesus Christ! And besides, the Bible says that the Just shall now live by faith. God sets the rules, we don't. I don't have a problem with those rules, you do.rileymartin wrote:If God loves us so much, why is the world such a terrible place? Why the need for suffering and devastation?... Oh. free will...
If God is so powerful, why not just reveal himself and erase any doubt?... oh, you need to have faith...
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Re: Question for Athiests:
Of course the bible says you have to live by faith, because there is no evidence...CleveTown™ wrote:God can reveal Himself and He did! in the bodily form of Jesus Christ! And besides, the Bible says that the Just shall now live by faith. God sets the rules, we don't. I don't have a problem with those rules, you do.rileymartin wrote:If God loves us so much, why is the world such a terrible place? Why the need for suffering and devastation?... Oh. free will...
If God is so powerful, why not just reveal himself and erase any doubt?... oh, you need to have faith...
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You're as dumb as Deez. Just wow.rileymartin wrote:Of course the bible says you have to live by faith, because there is no evidence...CleveTown™ wrote:God can reveal Himself and He did! in the bodily form of Jesus Christ! And besides, the Bible says that the Just shall now live by faith. God sets the rules, we don't. I don't have a problem with those rules, you do.rileymartin wrote:If God loves us so much, why is the world such a terrible place? Why the need for suffering and devastation?... Oh. free will...
If God is so powerful, why not just reveal himself and erase any doubt?... oh, you need to have faith...
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Re: Question for Athiests:
I don't know why Cleve still gets a rise out of this topic. He has a 0% chance of changing anyone's mind on this subject....and, in fact, his approach is a turnoff to the entire idea anyways.
He's working against his own beliefs. He's the anti-Christ....lol.
He's working against his own beliefs. He's the anti-Christ....lol.
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