What turned the Lakers around more: Luke Walton, or Kobe being outta there?
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Re: What turned the Lakers around more: Luke Walton, or Kobe being outta there?
OP you should know better than this
the team was legit tanking for draft picks. if they didn't care about landing towns or simmons the lakers would have won atleast 10-15 more games the past 2 seasons
and yes luke is a huge difference aswell
but the subtraction of a guy that averaged 17/4/3 on 36% isn't much of a difference considering d'angelo stepped into his role and is averaging 16/3/4 on 39% so far this season
both equally shitty on defense... i think kobe was more agile at age 37 actually
the team was legit tanking for draft picks. if they didn't care about landing towns or simmons the lakers would have won atleast 10-15 more games the past 2 seasons
and yes luke is a huge difference aswell
but the subtraction of a guy that averaged 17/4/3 on 36% isn't much of a difference considering d'angelo stepped into his role and is averaging 16/3/4 on 39% so far this season
both equally shitty on defense... i think kobe was more agile at age 37 actually
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Re: What turned the Lakers around more: Luke Walton, or Kobe being outta there?
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Re: What turned the Lakers around more: Luke Walton, or Kobe being outta there?
elmerjfudd wrote:Kobe
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d'angelo right now = 37 year old kobe
same stats and efficiency
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Re: What turned the Lakers around more: Luke Walton, or Kobe being outta there?
Kobe
You never liked me, probably don't like me still, but a ***** liking me aint never paid my bills
Re: What turned the Lakers around more: Luke Walton, or Kobe being outta there?
Addition of Luke. But the corpse of Kobe wasn't exactly helping.
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Re: What turned the Lakers around more: Luke Walton, or Kobe being outta there?
Madnessssss wrote:No. Lakers had the worst seasons in franchise history. They didn't do that on purpose, and Kobe didn't want to go out like that, but he couldn't help it. He just didn't age well, flamed out and stayed too long and he has the worst Lakers seasons of all time on his resume because of it.Kennethgriffin wrote:OP you should know better than this
the team was legit tanking for draft picks. if they didn't care about landing towns or simmons the lakers would have won atleast 10-15 more games the past 2 seasons
and yes luke is a huge difference aswell
but the subtraction of a guy that averaged 17/4/3 on 36% isn't much of a difference considering d'angelo stepped into his role and is averaging 16/3/4 on 39% so far this season
both equally shitty on defense... i think kobe was more agile at age 37 actually
Replace him with 2nd year Dangelo and they are instantly better.
youre right... the lakers effort being lifted 10 fold was 100% due to kobes departure and not due to switching front tank mode to real basketball
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Re: What turned the Lakers around more: Luke Walton, or Kobe being outta there?
LakersNeedShaq wrote:the corpse of Kobe wasn't exactly helping.
and d'angelo averaging identical kobe corpse stats is?
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Re: What turned the Lakers around more: Luke Walton, or Kobe being outta there?
Madnessssss wrote:Meanwhile the spurs got worse without Duncan
That's how it's supposed to work. It's a blemish on Kobe's legacy, can't deny it
i think you might be the new board retard now that sportscuck is gone
watch the video i posted above... it shows the proof of a tank job
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Re: What turned the Lakers around more: Luke Walton, or Kobe being outta there?
Deez Na wrote:Kobe easily
kobe 2015-16 = 17,4,3 on 36%
russell 2016-17 = 17,4,3 on 39%
how is one leader bringing the same guys to the 2nd worst record
and the other leader is bringing the same guys in a playoff spot
hmmm... maybe because tanking to get ben simmons was in the works?
you people are clearly ignoring the obvious just to rip on kobe
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Re: What turned the Lakers around more: Luke Walton, or Kobe being outta there?
Madnessssss wrote:Without Kobe they look like a whole different team
you're officially on my gay list.. get ready fagness. its about to get allot bumpier on here for you
i can let the Don bashing slide. but the kobe hate is crossing the line
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Re: What turned the Lakers around more: Luke Walton, or Kobe being outta there?
Madnessssss wrote:Kobe is no question a top 10 GOAT. But he ruined the Lakers these past 3 years. Worst seasons in franchise history with him as leader. It's a blemish to his legacy. The same team is miles better without him. In fact, they look very good. Last year they were neck and neck with 76ers. Now they're a playoff team. All they did was remove Kobe and get a new coachKennethgriffin wrote:Madnessssss wrote:Without Kobe they look like a whole different team
you're officially on my gay list.. get ready fagness. its about to get allot bumpier on here for you
i can let the Don bashing slide. but the kobe hate is crossing the line
again newly appointed board retard jew
if kobe plays out of his mind. or the lakers don't tank. or kobes achilles doesn't rip in half.... then they don't get d'angelo, randle, ingram, clarkson
if everything was peaches the last 3 years then their current lineup would be
PG - ?
SG - 38 year old Kobe
SF - Nick Young
PF - 36 year old gasol
C - ?
Re: What turned the Lakers around more: Luke Walton, or Kobe being outta there?
Kobe's retirement while sad was one of the best things to really happen this team.
Re: What turned the Lakers around more: Luke Walton, or Kobe being outta there?
Both, but a lil bit more Luke.
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Re: What turned the Lakers around more: Luke Walton, or Kobe being outta there?
retarded laker fans - "KOBE MADE THE LAKERS SUCK! HE HELD RUSSELL, CLARKSON, RANDLE BACK! AND INGRAM IS LUCKY TO HAVE NEVER PLAYED WITH HIM!"
but they don't get those guys if the lakers dont suck...
retarded laker fan - "YES THEY DO! DERRRRP!"
but they don't get those guys if the lakers dont suck...
retarded laker fan - "YES THEY DO! DERRRRP!"
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Re: What turned the Lakers around more: Luke Walton, or Kobe being outta there?
Madnessssss wrote:I"M FAGNESS THE BOARD RETARD. I THINK WE'D BE HOT SHIT RIGHT NOW IF ONE LEGGED KOBE BROUGHT US TO THE PLAYOFFS IN 2014, 2015, 2016
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Re: What turned the Lakers around more: Luke Walton, or Kobe being outta there?
Madnessssss wrote:Kobe certainly didn't lose on purpose so that the team would be better without him when he has nothing to gain.
. He didn't wanna go out like that, with the 2 worst seasons in Lakers history in his resume, but it's what happened.
They would have been better if he came off the bench
its about effort on defense... they had none. they let people score... watch the video on the 1st page that i posted. looks nothing like the effort this season
ofcourse kobe didn't tank on offense. he really was that shitty like d'angelo is this season.
however him and many others weren't taking shit seriously on the other end. not even remotely close to giving a fuck
this year is a complete 180. and only a total and complete blind retard wouldn't be able to see this
take your fagget head out of your ass
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Re: What turned the Lakers around more: Luke Walton, or Kobe being outta there?
Madnessssss wrote:Kobe was the weak link on defense. He was a stiff and getting blown by like it's nothing. We see now that they are solid defensively with Kobe outta there. It's basically the same team otherwise. It's not Ingram making the difference.Kennethgriffin wrote:Madnessssss wrote:Kobe certainly didn't lose on purpose so that the team would be better without him when he has nothing to gain.
. He didn't wanna go out like that, with the 2 worst seasons in Lakers history in his resume, but it's what happened.
They would have been better if he came off the bench
its about effort on defense... they had none. they let people score... watch the video on the 1st page that i posted. looks nothing like the effort this season
ofcourse kobe didn't tank on offense. he really was that shitty like d'angelo is this season.
however him and many others weren't taking shit seriously on the other end. not even remotely close to giving a fuck
this year is a complete 180. and only a total and complete blind retard wouldn't be able to see this
take your fagget head out of your ass
lol there wasn't a single strong link
nobody cared
again... the tank was real. only a completely blind bald deaf and dumb helen keller jew fag boy wouldn't see it
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Re: What turned the Lakers around more: Luke Walton, or Kobe being outta there?
Madnessssss wrote:Lakers aren't a team that ever tanks on purpose. And the teams that do haven't proven it to be a great strategy. 76ers have been the same shit team after countless years tanking now. I doubt Lakers are taking their strategy cues from the 76ers.Kennethgriffin wrote:Madnessssss wrote: Kobe was the weak link on defense. He was a stiff and getting blown by like it's nothing. We see now that they are solid defensively with Kobe outta there. It's basically the same team otherwise. It's not Ingram making the difference.
lol there wasn't a single strong link
nobody cared
again... the tank was real. only a completely blind bald deaf and dumb helen keller jew fag boy wouldn't see it
Lakers were trying to win, but couldn't because of kobe
you don't have a clue do you
after jerry died. so did the laker tradition of not tanking. not penny pinching. trading picks and expiring deals for allstars etc...
when jerry died. they let everyone walk. play under the cap now. they tank
oh yes.
they tank
jim did it because he wanted young guys he could take credit for. he didn't wanna buy a title. he wanted to create a title through drafting
his ego is that big
now stop talking. you're a homo
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Re: What turned the Lakers around more: Luke Walton, or Kobe being outta there?
The opposition is actually playing defense on D'Angelo.....KoME didn't have to worry about that last season.Kennethgriffin wrote:elmerjfudd wrote:Kobe
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d'angelo right now = 37 year old kobe
same stats and efficiency
The answer is KoME and it's not even close.