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Lonzo's last 9 games

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FG's - 30/108 - 27.8%
3's - 14/68 - 20.6%
FT's - 4/12 - 33.3%

TS% - 34.4%


8.7/6.3/7.3


Lakers are -15 during those 9 games....but -29 with Lonzo on the floor.

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How’s Kyrie’s knee holding up?

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LNS wrote:How’s Kyrie’s knee holding up?

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Better than Lonzo's jumper.
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I see a high floor but low ceiling for Lonzo.
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Robceltsfan wrote:
LNS wrote:How’s Kyrie’s knee holding up?

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Better than Lonzo's jumper.

Well that’s not saying much is it?

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well lonzo must suck i guess



only makes things cheaper for me on ebay



was planning on stock piling lonzo ball autographed rookie cards off ebay... can turn each 200$ card into 2000$ within 10 years
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LNS wrote:
Robceltsfan wrote:
LNS wrote:How’s Kyrie’s knee holding up?

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Better than Lonzo's jumper.

Well that’s not saying much is it?

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lonzos streaky shot is the least of his team/fans worries


hes a traditional PG... hes a rookie... nearly every single traditional rookie PG had a poor shot coming into the nba


its mainly due to being smaller, weaker, not practicing the deeper three enough in HS and college... but when thats all lonzo will be doing in practice for the next 3-4 years he should develop into a good shooter. and even just good would be enough to dominate a game overall



john stockton shot 16.9% from three over his first 3 seasons
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Lamelo_Ball wrote:lonzos streaky shot is the least of his team/fans worries


hes a traditional PG... hes a rookie... nearly every single traditional rookie PG had a poor shot coming into the nba


its mainly due to being smaller, weaker, not practicing the deeper three enough in HS and college... but when thats all lonzo will be doing in practice for the next 3-4 years he should develop into a good shooter. and even just good would be enough to dominate a game overall



john stockton shot 16.9% from three over his first 3 seasons

On a grand total of 65 attempts....in a league where the 3-point shot wasn't important...at all.

He also shot 48.8% from the field those first 3 seasons.
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Robceltsfan wrote:
Lamelo_Ball wrote:lonzos streaky shot is the least of his team/fans worries


hes a traditional PG... hes a rookie... nearly every single traditional rookie PG had a poor shot coming into the nba


its mainly due to being smaller, weaker, not practicing the deeper three enough in HS and college... but when thats all lonzo will be doing in practice for the next 3-4 years he should develop into a good shooter. and even just good would be enough to dominate a game overall



john stockton shot 16.9% from three over his first 3 seasons

On a grand total of 65 attempts....in a league where the 3-point shot wasn't important...at all.

He also shot 48.8% from the field those first 3 seasons.

gary payton shot 21% from three over his first 4 seasons



i don't give a fuck how many they shot


they sucked lol


its not a knock on lonzo for being more confident... infact the biggest knock on guys like john stockton and steve nash is they didn't take enough shots when they were a big threat from deep
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Lonzo Ball is a very unique player who should be serviceable to decent to hey, he's pretty good in the NBA for those talents.

That being said... his free throw shooting is more alarming than anything else right now. He's shooting 46.2% from the line. And he's only taking 1.3 attempts per game. Both of those are inexcusable for an NBA point guard... rookie or not.

Teams MUST have point guards who can put games away from the line.


[Note: Many scouts believe free throw shooting % is a better indicator of potential shooting ability than any other stat. Again, Ball has failed from there this season.]
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Like I said awhile ago, Lonzo seems to be a high-variance shooter, and when you have a lot of variance in play, it takes a larger sample size to ascertain where the person's "true score/performance" (in this case shooting) actually is. This is over and above the usual rookie elements.

I think by years 3-4 we will have a general sense of where his career is going to lie in terms of shooting.

If his shooting is substandard, that puts a big fat cap on how much of an impact player he can be in the modern NBA.

Like Abe said, his FT shooting is a huge puzzlement to me.
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AbeVigodaLive wrote:Lonzo Ball is a very unique player who should be serviceable to decent to hey, he's pretty good in the NBA for those talents.

That being said... his free throw shooting is more alarming than anything else right now. He's shooting 46.2% from the line. And he's only taking 1.3 attempts per game. Both of those are inexcusable for an NBA point guard... rookie or not.

Teams MUST have point guards who can put games away from the line.


[Note: Many scouts believe free throw shooting % is a better indicator of potential shooting ability than any other stat. Again, Ball has failed from there this season.]

i disagree that his free throw shooting is a problem. like you said he shoots 1 free throw a game. he doesn't get to the line cause he only shoots threes..


all he needs is 3-4 years like nearly every other light weight traditional PG


once he gets a bit of muscle he'l rely less on his hop step and will shoot more of a set shot with better repetition
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Lamelo_Ball wrote:
AbeVigodaLive wrote:Lonzo Ball is a very unique player who should be serviceable to decent to hey, he's pretty good in the NBA for those talents.

That being said... his free throw shooting is more alarming than anything else right now. He's shooting 46.2% from the line. And he's only taking 1.3 attempts per game. Both of those are inexcusable for an NBA point guard... rookie or not.

Teams MUST have point guards who can put games away from the line.


[Note: Many scouts believe free throw shooting % is a better indicator of potential shooting ability than any other stat. Again, Ball has failed from there this season.]

i disagree that his free throw shooting is a problem. like you said he shoots 1 free throw a game. he doesn't get to the line cause he only shoots threes..


all he needs is 3-4 years like nearly every other light weight traditional PG


once he gets a bit of muscle he'l rely less on his hop step and will shoot more of a set shot with better repetition

This is why myself and others ignore a lot of what you write. You don't have to argue EVERYTHING.

I could explain to you why a PG who can't shoot free throws... and is unwilling to get fouled... is a problem late in games. I could even point out stats and historical anecdotes. But you already know all of this. EVERYBODY already knows why it's a problem. I don't feel like arguing obvious points just because you're bored and compelled to argue against them.

Carry on.
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AbeVigodaLive wrote:
Lamelo_Ball wrote:
AbeVigodaLive wrote:Lonzo Ball is a very unique player who should be serviceable to decent to hey, he's pretty good in the NBA for those talents.

That being said... his free throw shooting is more alarming than anything else right now. He's shooting 46.2% from the line. And he's only taking 1.3 attempts per game. Both of those are inexcusable for an NBA point guard... rookie or not.

Teams MUST have point guards who can put games away from the line.


[Note: Many scouts believe free throw shooting % is a better indicator of potential shooting ability than any other stat. Again, Ball has failed from there this season.]

i disagree that his free throw shooting is a problem. like you said he shoots 1 free throw a game. he doesn't get to the line cause he only shoots threes..


all he needs is 3-4 years like nearly every other light weight traditional PG


once he gets a bit of muscle he'l rely less on his hop step and will shoot more of a set shot with better repetition

This is why myself and others ignore a lot of what you write. You don't have to argue EVERYTHING.

I could explain to you why a PG who can't shoot free throws... and is unwilling to get fouled... is a problem late in games. I could even point out stats and historical anecdotes. But you already know all of this. EVERYBODY already knows why it's a problem. I don't feel like arguing obvious points just because you're bored and compelled to argue against them.

Carry on.

i'm not arguing for the sake of arguing. you're just really stupid and wrong about everything


lonzo isn't like westbrook/harden who are guys that have to attack for their teams. ofcourse they can't be afraid to go to the line late in games


but the guy with the ball in his hands for the lakers late in games is brandon ingram and isaiah thomas


lonzo is a PG in the open court. not in the half court. hes actually more of a shooting guard/off ball player in the half court
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Seems like he's hurting the team rather than helping with those shooting numbers.
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elmerjfudd wrote:Seems like he's hurting the team rather than helping with those shooting numbers.

the fucked up thing is hes so good at everything else that even when hes having an all time bad shooting night the lakers still almost win


he positively effects the ball movement with the correct pass rather than the assist pass so much that the entire offense looks 10 times better when he plays


so hurting his team? thats debatable as crazy as it sounds. if he becomes even just a "good" shooter ... the lakers will be in the playoffs ( even without any additions )
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horseshoes, hand grenades and nba games?
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ITT I learned your leading PG shooting 46 percent from the line isn't a big deal.

Interesting. Interesting.

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Bush4Ever35 wrote:ITT I learned your leading PG shooting 46 percent from the line isn't a big deal.

Interesting. Interesting.

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thats like saying shaqs three point% was a big deal ... he never goes to the line lol


the lakers have 5 other guys that attack the rim and 2-3 other guys that handle the ball in the half court


lonzo's a 3pt shooting role player in the half court. hes only a PG in the open court
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