Max Kellerman said Kawhi is the 2nd best player in the NBA

denali4eva · Post by **denali4eva** » Thu Feb 22, 2018 12:45 pm

How can he be second best when he doesn't want to play?

Post by **Kingcarl24** » Thu Feb 22, 2018 12:45 pm

Stupid.

Bush4Ever35 · Post by **Bush4Ever35** » Thu Feb 22, 2018 12:45 pm

He's an awesome player, but no.

Sudanese Sensation · Post by **Sudanese Sensation** » Thu Feb 22, 2018 12:46 pm

He's barely top five.

kobeunderbite · Post by **kobeunderbite** » Thu Feb 22, 2018 12:46 pm

Might be taking his role as Skip Bayless' replacement a little too seriously.

FPL · Post by **FPL** » Thu Feb 22, 2018 12:46 pm

He's amazing one-on-one both facing up and posting up, and is a shutdown defender.

It's hard for me to consider a guy in the conversation for best player in the game unless he's a legit visionary playmaker though. The only guys who don't need to pass this test are two way bigs IMO.

elmerjfudd · Post by **elmerjfudd** » Thu Feb 22, 2018 1:10 pm

FPL wrote:He's amazing one-on-one both facing up and posting up, and is a shutdown defender.

It's hard for me to consider a guy in the conversation for best player in the game unless he's a legit visionary playmaker though. The only guys who don't need to pass this test are two way bigs IMO.

FPL · Post by **FPL** » Thu Feb 22, 2018 1:12 pm

elmerjfudd wrote:
FPL wrote:He's amazing one-on-one both facing up and posting up, and is a shutdown defender.

It's hard for me to consider a guy in the conversation for best player in the game unless he's a legit visionary playmaker though. The only guys who don't need to pass this test are two way bigs IMO.

He's in my top 5 this year, and my DPOY as of today

Sudanese Sensation · Post by **Sudanese Sensation** » Thu Feb 22, 2018 1:18 pm

James
Durant
Harden
Curry
Westbrook

CleveTown™ · Post by **CleveTown™** » Thu Feb 22, 2018 1:22 pm

It's Durant, sorry

Post by **vcsgrizzfan** » Thu Feb 22, 2018 1:55 pm

I think it's either LeBron or Curry. I wouldn't argue much with anybody who picked either as the best player in the NBA and the other guy is right on his tail.

vegasfraud · Post by **vegasfraud** » Thu Feb 22, 2018 1:57 pm

when healthy he's not better than lebron and kd. you can make a case for top 3 though.

Alex_Murphy · Post by **Alex_Murphy** » Thu Feb 22, 2018 2:03 pm

vegasfraud wrote:when healthy he's not better than lebron and kd. you can make a case for top 3 though.

He’s not better than Westbrook or Curry or Harden.

He’s as good as Paul george IMO.

vegasfraud · Post by **vegasfraud** » Thu Feb 22, 2018 2:04 pm

wisdomafterall wrote:
vegasfraud wrote:when healthy he's not better than lebron and kd. you can make a case for top 3 though.
He’s not better than Westbrook or Curry or Harden.

He’s as good as Paul george IMO.

i'd take him over westbrook and harden. probably not curry though.

Alex_Murphy · Post by **Alex_Murphy** » Thu Feb 22, 2018 2:09 pm

vegasfraud wrote:
wisdomafterall wrote:
vegasfraud wrote:when healthy he's not better than lebron and kd. you can make a case for top 3 though.
He’s not better than Westbrook or Curry or Harden.

He’s as good as Paul george IMO.
i'd take him over westbrook and harden. probably not curry though.

Last year Leonard averaged 2 threes 25.5 Ppg 5.8 rpg 3.5 asst 1.8 stls

Paul George averaged 2.6 threes 24 ppg 6.6 rpg 3.3 asst 1.6 stls

Same player.

vegasfraud · Post by **vegasfraud** » Thu Feb 22, 2018 2:25 pm

wisdomafterall wrote:
vegasfraud wrote:
wisdomafterall wrote:
He’s not better than Westbrook or Curry or Harden.

He’s as good as Paul george IMO.
i'd take him over westbrook and harden. probably not curry though.
Last year Leonard averaged 2 threes 25.5 Ppg 5.8 rpg 3.5 asst 1.8 stls

Paul George averaged 2.6 threes 24 ppg 6.6 rpg 3.3 asst 1.6 stls

Same player.

kawhi is more efficient. look at their per's last season. leonard was third in the league, george was 42nd. that said before his injury pg might have been the second best two way player in the game behind lebron. he was definitely heading that direction if he wasn't there already.

Sudanese Sensation · Post by **Sudanese Sensation** » Thu Feb 22, 2018 2:31 pm

Kawhi is a good player but not a transcendent one.

LBJ , Steph, and KD are.

3effs · Post by **3effs** » Thu Feb 22, 2018 2:35 pm

It’s not crazy to suggest, but no.

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