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Why is Muhammad Ali...a well documented racist...always so celebrated?
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Why is Muhammad Ali...a well documented racist...always so celebrated?
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Re: Why is Muhammad Ali...a well documented racist...always so celebrated?
Because he was good at boxing. Kaep wouldn't be half as easy to hate if he was really good at football.
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Re: Why is Muhammad Ali...a well documented racist...always so celebrated?
Because crackers back then could at least be introspective and see that his hate was caused by the conditions black folk were forced into. Now crackers like to pretend history didn’t happen and has no bearing on the present.
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Re: Why is Muhammad Ali...a well documented racist...always so celebrated?
Ali Natural wrote:Because crackers back then could at least be introspective and see that his hate was caused by the conditions black folk were forced into. Now crackers like to pretend history didn’t happen and has no bearing on the present.
Aye young blood lemme axe you something real quick. With over 365,000+ police encounters per year in this country with African-American males between ages 16-49, do you think the 19 people shot under questionable judgement by the officer qualifies as an "epidemic" in today's white/black relations in the year 2017?
To put that number in perspective, that's less than 0.00000000001% of the black population being "innocently gunned down" by law enforcement.
Forget Ali, but don't you think Kaepernick's message is a "tad" embellished?
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Re: Why is Muhammad Ali...a well documented racist...always so celebrated?
Get back in here @Ali Naturallettherebehouse wrote:Ali Natural wrote:Because crackers back then could at least be introspective and see that his hate was caused by the conditions black folk were forced into. Now crackers like to pretend history didn’t happen and has no bearing on the present.
Aye young blood lemme axe you something real quick. With over 365,000+ police encounters per year in this country with African-American males between ages 16-49, do you think the 19 people shot under questionable judgement by the officer qualifies as an "epidemic" in today's white/black relations in the year 2017?
To put that number in perspective, that's less than 0.00000000001% of the black population being "innocently gunned down" by law enforcement.
Forget Ali, but don't you think Kaepernick's message is a "tad" embellished?
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Re: Why is Muhammad Ali...a well documented racist...always so celebrated?
Mainly because of people like you...elartman1973 wrote:
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Re: Why is Muhammad Ali...a well documented racist...always so celebrated?
Is police brutality only limited to police killings and shootings?lettherebehouse wrote:Ali Natural wrote:Because crackers back then could at least be introspective and see that his hate was caused by the conditions black folk were forced into. Now crackers like to pretend history didn’t happen and has no bearing on the present.
Aye young blood lemme axe you something real quick. With over 365,000+ police encounters per year in this country with African-American males between ages 16-49, do you think the 19 people shot under questionable judgement by the officer qualifies as an "epidemic" in today's white/black relations in the year 2017?
To put that number in perspective, that's less than 0.00000000001% of the black population being "innocently gunned down" by law enforcement.
Forget Ali, but don't you think Kaepernick's message is a "tad" embellished?
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Re: Why is Muhammad Ali...a well documented racist...always so celebrated?
No....and it's not limited to black people either.rileymartin wrote:Is police brutality only limited to police killings and shootings?lettherebehouse wrote:Ali Natural wrote:Because crackers back then could at least be introspective and see that his hate was caused by the conditions black folk were forced into. Now crackers like to pretend history didn’t happen and has no bearing on the present.
Aye young blood lemme axe you something real quick. With over 365,000+ police encounters per year in this country with African-American males between ages 16-49, do you think the 19 people shot under questionable judgement by the officer qualifies as an "epidemic" in today's white/black relations in the year 2017?
To put that number in perspective, that's less than 0.00000000001% of the black population being "innocently gunned down" by law enforcement.
Forget Ali, but don't you think Kaepernick's message is a "tad" embellished?
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Re: Why is Muhammad Ali...a well documented racist...always so celebrated?
It certainly isn't, but it is more prevalent for sure.Robceltsfan wrote:No....and it's not limited to black people either.rileymartin wrote:Is police brutality only limited to police killings and shootings?lettherebehouse wrote:
Aye young blood lemme axe you something real quick. With over 365,000+ police encounters per year in this country with African-American males between ages 16-49, do you think the 19 people shot under questionable judgement by the officer qualifies as an "epidemic" in today's white/black relations in the year 2017?
To put that number in perspective, that's less than 0.00000000001% of the black population being "innocently gunned down" by law enforcement.
Forget Ali, but don't you think Kaepernick's message is a "tad" embellished?
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Re: Why is Muhammad Ali...a well documented racist...always so celebrated?
rileymartin wrote:It certainly isn't, but it is more prevalent for sure.Robceltsfan wrote:No....and it's not limited to black people either.rileymartin wrote:
Is police brutality only limited to police killings and shootings?
No, it isn't. Not if you take into consideration the proportions to which violent crime is committed.
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Re: Why is Muhammad Ali...a well documented racist...always so celebrated?
rileymartin wrote:Is police brutality only limited to police killings and shootings?lettherebehouse wrote:Ali Natural wrote:Because crackers back then could at least be introspective and see that his hate was caused by the conditions black folk were forced into. Now crackers like to pretend history didn’t happen and has no bearing on the present.
Aye young blood lemme axe you something real quick. With over 365,000+ police encounters per year in this country with African-American males between ages 16-49, do you think the 19 people shot under questionable judgement by the officer qualifies as an "epidemic" in today's white/black relations in the year 2017?
To put that number in perspective, that's less than 0.00000000001% of the black population being "innocently gunned down" by law enforcement.
Forget Ali, but don't you think Kaepernick's message is a "tad" embellished?
According to Kaepernick's own words,
Kaepernick told NFL Mediaafter Friday’s game. “To me, this is bigger than football and it would be selfish on my part to look the other way. There are bodies in the street and people getting paid leave and getting away with murder.”
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Has the goalposts moved back since then?
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Re: Why is Muhammad Ali...a well documented racist...always so celebrated?
There is literally nothing wrong with what he said in that interview.
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Re: Why is Muhammad Ali...a well documented racist...always so celebrated?
Right, because I am sure that after the civil rights movements of the 60's, blacks have been on equal footing every since...Robceltsfan wrote:rileymartin wrote:It certainly isn't, but it is more prevalent for sure.Robceltsfan wrote:
No....and it's not limited to black people either.
No, it isn't. Not if you take into consideration the proportions to which violent crime is committed.
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Re: Why is Muhammad Ali...a well documented racist...always so celebrated?
rileymartin wrote:Right, because I am sure that after the civil rights movements of the 60's, blacks have been on equal footing every since...Robceltsfan wrote:rileymartin wrote:
It certainly isn't, but it is more prevalent for sure.
No, it isn't. Not if you take into consideration the proportions to which violent crime is committed.
So because blacks were oppressed 50+ years ago.....that means they should commit a higher percentage of violent crimes today?
And again, what does that have to do with the fact that, proportionately speaking (with regards to reactions to violent crime), blacks are NOT excessively dealt with by police in a disproportionate manner?
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Re: Why is Muhammad Ali...a well documented racist...always so celebrated?
Robceltsfan wrote:rileymartin wrote:Right, because I am sure that after the civil rights movements of the 60's, blacks have been on equal footing every since...Robceltsfan wrote:
No, it isn't. Not if you take into consideration the proportions to which violent crime is committed.
So because blacks were oppressed 50+ years ago.....that means they should commit a higher percentage of violent crimes today?
And again, what does that have to do with the fact that, proportionately speaking (with regards to reactions to violent crime), blacks are NOT excessively dealt with by police in a disproportionate manner?
Uhhh are you retarded?
It amazes me how everyone sticks to their own narrative on this site sometimes. Blacks technically were given equal rights, sure. But they also had a shit ton more hoops to jump through. Would you rather hire some clean cut white guy or some dopey ******? I’d hire the white guy, personally. If you take a bunch of oppressed black dudes that aren’t very smart, of course they’re going to self combust, because uhhh they’re idiots and they have hoops to jump through on top of being morons. It’s easy for some of us to say “use your brain” or “don’t act this way or that way”, but if you grew up in poverty in a country that made/makes things harder on you, they might not understand your white bread perspective, Rob.
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Re: Why is Muhammad Ali...a well documented racist...always so celebrated?
LakersNeedShaq wrote:Robceltsfan wrote:rileymartin wrote:
Right, because I am sure that after the civil rights movements of the 60's, blacks have been on equal footing every since...
So because blacks were oppressed 50+ years ago.....that means they should commit a higher percentage of violent crimes today?
And again, what does that have to do with the fact that, proportionately speaking (with regards to reactions to violent crime), blacks are NOT excessively dealt with by police in a disproportionate manner?
Uhhh are you retarded?
It amazes me how everyone sticks to their own narrative on this site sometimes. Blacks technically were given equal rights, sure. But they also had a shit ton more hoops to jump through. Would you rather hire some clean cut white guy or some dopey ******? I’d hire the white guy, personally. If you take a bunch of oppressed black dudes that aren’t very smart, of course they’re going to self combust, because uhhh they’re idiots and they have hoops to jump through on top of being morons. It’s easy for some of us to say “use your brain” or “don’t act this way or that way”, but if you grew up in poverty in a country that made/makes things harder on you, they might not understand your white bread perspective, Rob.
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OK.....so with all that typing you still didn't deny that police brutality has nothing to do with race and everything to do with crime.
Talking about WHY blacks commit more violent crime than whites is a completely different subject. But blacks are not, in any gross manner, disproportionately targeted based on the color of their skin. Can we agree on that?
The reasons for their continued propensity to be poor are a great many, but "police are killing us out here" is not one of those reasons.
Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are dumber than that.
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Re: Why is Muhammad Ali...a well documented racist...always so celebrated?
Are you suggesting that generally speaking, the police deal with black people and white people the same?Robceltsfan wrote:LakersNeedShaq wrote:Robceltsfan wrote:
So because blacks were oppressed 50+ years ago.....that means they should commit a higher percentage of violent crimes today?
And again, what does that have to do with the fact that, proportionately speaking (with regards to reactions to violent crime), blacks are NOT excessively dealt with by police in a disproportionate manner?
Uhhh are you retarded?
It amazes me how everyone sticks to their own narrative on this site sometimes. Blacks technically were given equal rights, sure. But they also had a shit ton more hoops to jump through. Would you rather hire some clean cut white guy or some dopey ******? I’d hire the white guy, personally. If you take a bunch of oppressed black dudes that aren’t very smart, of course they’re going to self combust, because uhhh they’re idiots and they have hoops to jump through on top of being morons. It’s easy for some of us to say “use your brain” or “don’t act this way or that way”, but if you grew up in poverty in a country that made/makes things harder on you, they might not understand your white bread perspective, Rob.
Lol holy shit that was ownage.
OK.....so with all that typing you still didn't deny that police brutality has nothing to do with race and everything to do with crime.
Talking about WHY blacks commit more violent crime than whites is a completely different subject. But blacks are not, in any gross manner, disproportionately targeted based on the color of their skin. Can we agree on that?
The reasons for their continued propensity to be poor are a great many, but "police are killing us out here" is not one of those reasons.
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Re: Why is Muhammad Ali...a well documented racist...always so celebrated?
No, black neighborhoods are policed more actively....which inherently leads to more stops/arrests/incarcerations.rileymartin wrote:Are you suggesting that generally speaking, the police deal with black people and white people the same?Robceltsfan wrote:LakersNeedShaq wrote:
Uhhh are you retarded?
It amazes me how everyone sticks to their own narrative on this site sometimes. Blacks technically were given equal rights, sure. But they also had a shit ton more hoops to jump through. Would you rather hire some clean cut white guy or some dopey ******? I’d hire the white guy, personally. If you take a bunch of oppressed black dudes that aren’t very smart, of course they’re going to self combust, because uhhh they’re idiots and they have hoops to jump through on top of being morons. It’s easy for some of us to say “use your brain” or “don’t act this way or that way”, but if you grew up in poverty in a country that made/makes things harder on you, they might not understand your white bread perspective, Rob.
Lol holy shit that was ownage.
OK.....so with all that typing you still didn't deny that police brutality has nothing to do with race and everything to do with crime.
Talking about WHY blacks commit more violent crime than whites is a completely different subject. But blacks are not, in any gross manner, disproportionately targeted based on the color of their skin. Can we agree on that?
The reasons for their continued propensity to be poor are a great many, but "police are killing us out here" is not one of those reasons.
But, again, that's a result of black neighborhoods having disproportionate crime rates in comparison to other races.
That's a vicious cycle....and hard to answer how to "fix" it. But police activity is not the major underlying reason that blacks, as a whole, are not thriving in the US.
Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are dumber than that.
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Re: Why is Muhammad Ali...a well documented racist...always so celebrated?
rileymartin wrote:Are you suggesting that generally speaking, the police deal with black people and white people the same?Robceltsfan wrote:LakersNeedShaq wrote:
Uhhh are you retarded?
It amazes me how everyone sticks to their own narrative on this site sometimes. Blacks technically were given equal rights, sure. But they also had a shit ton more hoops to jump through. Would you rather hire some clean cut white guy or some dopey ******? I’d hire the white guy, personally. If you take a bunch of oppressed black dudes that aren’t very smart, of course they’re going to self combust, because uhhh they’re idiots and they have hoops to jump through on top of being morons. It’s easy for some of us to say “use your brain” or “don’t act this way or that way”, but if you grew up in poverty in a country that made/makes things harder on you, they might not understand your white bread perspective, Rob.
Lol holy shit that was ownage.
OK.....so with all that typing you still didn't deny that police brutality has nothing to do with race and everything to do with crime.
Talking about WHY blacks commit more violent crime than whites is a completely different subject. But blacks are not, in any gross manner, disproportionately targeted based on the color of their skin. Can we agree on that?
The reasons for their continued propensity to be poor are a great many, but "police are killing us out here" is not one of those reasons.
Depends on which class the black or white person belongs to or how they present themselves. Yes, presentation does matter. And yes, profiling does matter. It's the #1 tool FBI and police use in crime prevention and apprehension.
Statistically, profiling more times than not is the most practical tool they have, especially when having to deal with the no snitching code in most inner cities. It's not ideal, and doesn't fit the utopian we are all equal narrative, but at the end of the day feelings are irrelevant, results are not.