What turned the Lakers around more: Luke Walton, or Kobe being outta there?

[Kennethgriffin]

OP you should know better than this


the team was legit tanking for draft picks. if they didn't care about landing towns or simmons the lakers would have won atleast 10-15 more games the past 2 seasons


and yes luke is a huge difference aswell

but the subtraction of a guy that averaged 17/4/3 on 36% isn't much of a difference considering d'angelo stepped into his role and is averaging 16/3/4 on 39% so far this season

both equally shitty on defense... i think kobe was more agile at age 37 actually

[elmerjfudd]

Kobe

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[Kennethgriffin]

Kobe

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moron

d'angelo right now = 37 year old kobe


same stats and efficiency

[LeBronMonsterDunk]

Kobe

[LNS]

Addition of Luke. But the corpse of Kobe wasn't exactly helping.

[Kennethgriffin]

OP you should know better than this


the team was legit tanking for draft picks. if they didn't care about landing towns or simmons the lakers would have won atleast 10-15 more games the past 2 seasons


and yes luke is a huge difference aswell

but the subtraction of a guy that averaged 17/4/3 on 36% isn't much of a difference considering d'angelo stepped into his role and is averaging 16/3/4 on 39% so far this season

both equally shitty on defense... i think kobe was more agile at age 37 actually

No. Lakers had the worst seasons in franchise history. They didn't do that on purpose, and Kobe didn't want to go out like that, but he couldn't help it. He just didn't age well, flamed out and stayed too long and he has the worst Lakers seasons of all time on his resume because of it.

Replace him with 2nd year Dangelo and they are instantly better.

youre right... the lakers effort being lifted 10 fold was 100% due to kobes departure and not due to switching front tank mode to real basketball

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[Kennethgriffin]

the corpse of Kobe wasn't exactly helping.

and d'angelo averaging identical kobe corpse stats is?

[Kennethgriffin]

Meanwhile the spurs got worse without Duncan

That's how it's supposed to work. It's a blemish on Kobe's legacy, can't deny it

i think you might be the new board retard now that sportscuck is gone



watch the video i posted above... it shows the proof of a tank job

[Deez]

Kobe easily

[Kennethgriffin]

Kobe easily

kobe 2015-16 = 17,4,3 on 36%
russell 2016-17 = 17,4,3 on 39%


how is one leader bringing the same guys to the 2nd worst record

and the other leader is bringing the same guys in a playoff spot


hmmm... maybe because tanking to get ben simmons was in the works?




you people are clearly ignoring the obvious just to rip on kobe

[Kennethgriffin]

Without Kobe they look like a whole different team

you're officially on my gay list.. get ready fagness. its about to get allot bumpier on here for you


i can let the Don bashing slide. but the kobe hate is crossing the line

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[Kennethgriffin]

Without Kobe they look like a whole different team

you're officially on my gay list.. get ready fagness. its about to get allot bumpier on here for you


i can let the Don bashing slide. but the kobe hate is crossing the line

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Kobe is no question a top 10 GOAT. But he ruined the Lakers these past 3 years. Worst seasons in franchise history with him as leader. It's a blemish to his legacy. The same team is miles better without him. In fact, they look very good. Last year they were neck and neck with 76ers. Now they're a playoff team. All they did was remove Kobe and get a new coach

again newly appointed board retard jew




if kobe plays out of his mind. or the lakers don't tank. or kobes achilles doesn't rip in half.... then they don't get d'angelo, randle, ingram, clarkson



if everything was peaches the last 3 years then their current lineup would be


PG - ?
SG - 38 year old Kobe
SF - Nick Young
PF - 36 year old gasol
C - ?

[elmouse03]

Kobe's retirement while sad was one of the best things to really happen this team.

[Odogg]

Both, but a lil bit more Luke.

[Kennethgriffin]

retarded laker fans - "KOBE MADE THE LAKERS SUCK! HE HELD RUSSELL, CLARKSON, RANDLE BACK! AND INGRAM IS LUCKY TO HAVE NEVER PLAYED WITH HIM!"



but they don't get those guys if the lakers dont suck...



retarded laker fan - "YES THEY DO! DERRRRP!"

[Kennethgriffin]

I"M FAGNESS THE BOARD RETARD. I THINK WE'D BE HOT SHIT RIGHT NOW IF ONE LEGGED KOBE BROUGHT US TO THE PLAYOFFS IN 2014, 2015, 2016

[Kennethgriffin]

Kobe certainly didn't lose on purpose so that the team would be better without him when he has nothing to gain.

. He didn't wanna go out like that, with the 2 worst seasons in Lakers history in his resume, but it's what happened.

They would have been better if he came off the bench

its about effort on defense... they had none. they let people score... watch the video on the 1st page that i posted. looks nothing like the effort this season


ofcourse kobe didn't tank on offense. he really was that shitty like d'angelo is this season.


however him and many others weren't taking shit seriously on the other end. not even remotely close to giving a fuck


this year is a complete 180. and only a total and complete blind retard wouldn't be able to see this


take your fagget head out of your ass

[Kennethgriffin]

Kobe certainly didn't lose on purpose so that the team would be better without him when he has nothing to gain.

. He didn't wanna go out like that, with the 2 worst seasons in Lakers history in his resume, but it's what happened.

They would have been better if he came off the bench

its about effort on defense... they had none. they let people score... watch the video on the 1st page that i posted. looks nothing like the effort this season


ofcourse kobe didn't tank on offense. he really was that shitty like d'angelo is this season.


however him and many others weren't taking shit seriously on the other end. not even remotely close to giving a fuck


this year is a complete 180. and only a total and complete blind retard wouldn't be able to see this


take your fagget head out of your ass

Kobe was the weak link on defense. He was a stiff and getting blown by like it's nothing. We see now that they are solid defensively with Kobe outta there. It's basically the same team otherwise. It's not Ingram making the difference.

lol there wasn't a single strong link

nobody cared


again... the tank was real. only a completely blind bald deaf and dumb helen keller jew fag boy wouldn't see it

[Kennethgriffin]

Kobe was the weak link on defense. He was a stiff and getting blown by like it's nothing. We see now that they are solid defensively with Kobe outta there. It's basically the same team otherwise. It's not Ingram making the difference.

lol there wasn't a single strong link

nobody cared


again... the tank was real. only a completely blind bald deaf and dumb helen keller jew fag boy wouldn't see it

Lakers aren't a team that ever tanks on purpose. And the teams that do haven't proven it to be a great strategy. 76ers have been the same shit team after countless years tanking now. I doubt Lakers are taking their strategy cues from the 76ers.

Lakers were trying to win, but couldn't because of kobe

you don't have a clue do you


after jerry died. so did the laker tradition of not tanking. not penny pinching. trading picks and expiring deals for allstars etc...

when jerry died. they let everyone walk. play under the cap now. they tank

oh yes.

they tank


jim did it because he wanted young guys he could take credit for. he didn't wanna buy a title. he wanted to create a title through drafting

his ego is that big



now stop talking. you're a homo

[Jims_Doors]

Kobe

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moron

d'angelo right now = 37 year old kobe


same stats and efficiency

The opposition is actually playing defense on D'Angelo.....KoME didn't have to worry about that last season.


The answer is KoME and it's not even close.