Can certain Pro-Life people answer this question?

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Can certain Pro-Life people answer this question?

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How can you believe that:

A) Abortion is literally murder against a human being, AND

B) Violence in the name of defense of another is acceptable, AND

C) Believe that physically aggressing against people performing abortions is explicitly morally incorrect

That is, how can you believe all these things in combination?

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B) Evil people and infidels are fair game
C) Saving lives
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I believe I've already more than adequately answered this pregunta.
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Bush, that avatar got her shit pushed in last time. Embarrassing.
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King Deez wrote:Bush, that avatar got her shit pushed in last time. Embarrassing.
Holm won, actually.
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AlaskaHawks wrote:
King Deez wrote:Bush, that avatar got her shit pushed in last time. Embarrassing.
Holm won, actually.
Damnit, I looked at it really quick and thought it was Rousey :L
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Kobeunderbite wrote:B) Evil people and infidels are fair game
C) Saving lives
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King Deez wrote:
AlaskaHawks wrote:
King Deez wrote:Bush, that avatar got her shit pushed in last time. Embarrassing.
Holm won, actually.
Damnit, I looked at it really quick and thought it was Rousey :L


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lettherebehouse wrote:
King Deez wrote:
AlaskaHawks wrote:
Holm won, actually.
Damnit, I looked at it really quick and thought it was Rousey :L


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I'm asking how you can believe all of those things in combination, not individually.

I changed my OP to reflect that.
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Killing babies is wrong period. Crazies going in to the planned parenthood shooting everyone up is also wrong.
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It's more than acceptable to resort to physical action against abortion performers in my opinion, not excessive action however.
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Too... much... logic.

I personally don't believe all those things in combination.
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King Deez wrote:Killing babies is wrong period. Crazies going in to the planned parenthood shooting everyone up is also wrong.
Right, but what if the guy simply killed the abortion doctor?
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Bush4Ever wrote:
King Deez wrote:Killing babies is wrong period. Crazies going in to the planned parenthood shooting everyone up is also wrong.
Right, but what if the guy simply killed the abortion doctor?
There are more out there. We going to kill each one that comes in for his job then?
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Kobeunderbite wrote:It's more than acceptable to resort to physical action against abortion performers in my opinion, not excessive action however.
The doctor is literally committing murder, according to some people.

What would be excessive in that situation?
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Bush4Ever wrote:
Kobeunderbite wrote:It's more than acceptable to resort to physical action against abortion performers in my opinion, not excessive action however.
The doctor is literally committing murder, according to some people.

What would be excessive in that situation?

It depends but preventing the murder without compromising the doctor's life would be ideal.
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I do believe abortion is the murder of innocents, and I also believe that it is morally acceptable to use force to protect those who can't protect themselves. I further believe that murdering abortionists is morally reprehensible in this respect: if our end goal is to have abortion (murder) outlawed, then anything done that hinders that cause is a moral negative. Murdering abortionists certainly hinders the cause, by bolstering the narrative that the pro-life movement are a bunch of raging loonies. I'd compare it to John Brown and abolitionists. His raid on Harper's Ferry, while perhaps morally justified, didn't really help to further the abolitionist ultimate agenda. Instead, it confirmed to many Southerners that the abolitionist movement was dangerous and violent.

It's not a perfect comparison, but I hope you get my drift.
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King Deez wrote:
There are more out there. We going to kill each one that comes in for his job then?
The alternative to that would be (again, if you believe the things A and B above) explicitly allowing someone to murder without response.

I'm not really arguing for that, but I'm curious as to the reasoning of the "I think abortion is murder, but I condemn the killer of the (in their eyes) murderer".

It seems like one of those areas where (usually) Christians don't want to extend themselves to the level of their beliefs would dictate, for the sake of social acceptability.
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Bush4Ever wrote:
King Deez wrote:
There are more out there. We going to kill each one that comes in for his job then?
The alternative to that would be (again, if you believe the things A and B above) explicitly allowing someone to murder without response.

I'm not really arguing for that, but I'm curious as to the reasoning of the "I think abortion is murder, but I condemn the killer of the (in their eyes) murderer".

It seems like one of those areas where (usually) Christians don't want to extend themselves to the level of their beliefs would dictate, for the sake of social acceptability.
I don't condemn the killer of the baby or the one who ends their life.
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