Interesting Statistical Comparison...

[Kingcarl24]

I don't like Kaepernick at all and think it's really hard not to like Cam Newton but I saw an article comparing their stats this season and found it very interesting...

Look at the breakdown...

Completion Percentage:
Kaep 59.3%
Newton 54.2%

Passing Yards:
Kaep 1,615
Newton 1,523

Passing TDs:
Kaep 6
Newton 11

INTs:
Kaep 5
Newton 8

Passer Rating:
Kaep 78.8
Newton 78.1

Rushing Yards:
Kaep 256
Newton 286

Rushing TDs:
Kaep 1
Newton 4

Team Record (at the time the article was written):
Kaep 2-6
Newton 7-0

Keep in mind that the 49ers defense is one of the worst in the league and the Panthers is one of the best. Also, Kaep has been sacked twice as often as Newton has. One guy is more than likely going to win the MVP and the other has been benched for a guy with the last name Gabbert.

I just found this kind of interesting.

[AbeVigodaLive]

This post would have had more impact if it was more timely.

Since that article was written... Newton has thrown 9 TDs and only 1 INT... and rushed for 3 more TDs.

[Robceltsfan]

8 more TD's for Newton at that point........with 1 less game played.


That's the most telling statistic from that list.

[Kingcarl24]

Like I said, I don't like Kaep and I really like Cam Newton. I just think it's interesting when you see players with similar stats and one is at the bottom of the QB barrel in the league and the other is king of the world.

[Robceltsfan]

Like I said, I don't like Kaep and I really like Cam Newton. I just think it's interesting when you see players with similar stats and one is at the bottom of the QB barrel in the league and the other is king of the world.

Winning is the end-all/be-all for QBs. Terry Bradshaw is in the HOF for christ's sake.

And again....8 more TD's in one less game played. That's 56 points.

[Deez]

Give Kaep a team and a line and I think he'd do fine. SF gives him 0.0002 seconds to get rid of the ball or he's being lit up.

[Kingcarl24]

Like I said, I don't like Kaep and I really like Cam Newton. I just think it's interesting when you see players with similar stats and one is at the bottom of the QB barrel in the league and the other is king of the world.

Winning is the end-all/be-all for QBs. Terry Bradshaw is in the HOF for christ's sake.

And again....8 more TD's in one less game played. That's 56 points.

Do you think if they switched teams, Kaep would still be benched?

I do think that Cam has way more confidence. Even when the Panthers were losing, Cam seemed to still enjoy playing football. Kaep has been a cocky prick most of his NFL career. Now that he's losing, he looks like a picked on 3rd grader.

[rtiff68]

8 more TD's for Newton at that point........with 1 less game played.


That's the most telling statistic from that list.

It's amazing what happens when you give a QB good-to-great OL play and a great defense.

What's even more infuriating for me as a Niners fan is how the team benched Kaepernick for "performance" (i.e. basically scapegoating him for the season when the roster as a whole has been poor and the coaching has been laughable), and then revealing he has a shoulder injury the next week and shutting him down for the season. Kaepernick has his flaws-- and I've pointed them out several times-- but he's also the best QB SF has had since Jeff Garcia (the span of a decade), and he's only 27.

Kicking him to the curb without an alternative is stupid. Kicking him to the curb without an alternative AND denting his trade value...mind-blowingly dumb.

[zombiesonics]

Kaep is undeniably talented, he needs to get the hell away from the 49ers. I'm thinking Philly.

[Robceltsfan]

Like I said, I don't like Kaep and I really like Cam Newton. I just think it's interesting when you see players with similar stats and one is at the bottom of the QB barrel in the league and the other is king of the world.

Winning is the end-all/be-all for QBs. Terry Bradshaw is in the HOF for christ's sake.

And again....8 more TD's in one less game played. That's 56 points.

Do you think if they switched teams, Kaep would still be benched?

I do think that Cam has way more confidence. Even when the Panthers were losing, Cam seemed to still enjoy playing football. Kaep has been a cocky prick most of his NFL career. Now that he's losing, he looks like a picked on 3rd grader.

Kaep would be doing just fine with that Carolina team. He may not have them undefeated, but he's somewhat interchangeable with Cam in that offense.

[rtiff68]

Like I said, I don't like Kaep and I really like Cam Newton. I just think it's interesting when you see players with similar stats and one is at the bottom of the QB barrel in the league and the other is king of the world.

Winning is the end-all/be-all for QBs. Terry Bradshaw is in the HOF for christ's sake.

And again....8 more TD's in one less game played. That's 56 points.

Do you think if they switched teams, Kaep would still be benched?

I do think that Cam has way more confidence. Even when the Panthers were losing, Cam seemed to still enjoy playing football. Kaep has been a cocky prick most of his NFL career. Now that he's losing, he looks like a picked on 3rd grader.

To your first question, I seriously doubt it.

To your point after that about confidence, I think there is something to that. That said, when Wilson struggled last year and this year, all you hear(d) about is how the SEA OL doesn't protect enough, they don't have enough receiving weapons, etc. When Cam struggled last year, you heard similar excuses. With Luck this year, all you hear about is how tough he's been playing through injuries and with a bad OL.

All three of those organizations apparently understood that their team and/or offensive struggles were happening for a lot of reasons, not exclusively due to play of their QB. They went out of their respective ways not to scapegoat their young QBs, probably because all 3 teams have been able to win with those guys, at times being carried by them, and a commodity like that isn't easily replaceable.

It started with the Harbaugh fiasco, and has continued to snowball-- the 49ers organization has been a decision making dumpster fire for over year. I'm not sure they could have handled all of these things worse. It's like watching a Cohan owned team...

[Kingcarl24]

Winning is the end-all/be-all for QBs. Terry Bradshaw is in the HOF for christ's sake.

And again....8 more TD's in one less game played. That's 56 points.

Do you think if they switched teams, Kaep would still be benched?

I do think that Cam has way more confidence. Even when the Panthers were losing, Cam seemed to still enjoy playing football. Kaep has been a cocky prick most of his NFL career. Now that he's losing, he looks like a picked on 3rd grader.

Kaep would be doing just fine with that Carolina team. He may not have them undefeated, but he's somewhat interchangeable with Cam in that offense.

So you do agree that it's strange that Kaep has been benched this season?

[Kingcarl24]

Winning is the end-all/be-all for QBs. Terry Bradshaw is in the HOF for christ's sake.

And again....8 more TD's in one less game played. That's 56 points.

Do you think if they switched teams, Kaep would still be benched?

I do think that Cam has way more confidence. Even when the Panthers were losing, Cam seemed to still enjoy playing football. Kaep has been a cocky prick most of his NFL career. Now that he's losing, he looks like a picked on 3rd grader.

To your first question, I seriously doubt it.

To your point after that about confidence, I think there is something to that. That said, when Wilson struggled last year and this year, all you hear(d) about is how the SEA OL doesn't protect enough, they don't have enough receiving weapons, etc. When Cam struggled last year, you heard similar excuses. With Luck this year, all you hear about is how tough he's been playing through injuries and with a bad OL.

All three of those organizations apparently understood that their team and/or offensive struggles were happening for a lot of reasons, not exclusively due to play of their QB. They went out of their respective ways not to scapegoat their young QBs, probably because all 3 teams have been able to win with those guys, at times being carried by them, and a commodity like that isn't easily replaceable.

It started with the Harbaugh fiasco, and has continued to snowball-- the 49ers organization has been a decision making dumpster fire for over year. I'm not sure they could have handled all of these things worse. It's like watching a Cohan owned team...

I have to tell you that I'm trying real hard to be sympathetic and all that but I can't help smiling at this post just a little. Sorry man.

[rtiff68]

Do you think if they switched teams, Kaep would still be benched?

I do think that Cam has way more confidence. Even when the Panthers were losing, Cam seemed to still enjoy playing football. Kaep has been a cocky prick most of his NFL career. Now that he's losing, he looks like a picked on 3rd grader.

Kaep would be doing just fine with that Carolina team. He may not have them undefeated, but he's somewhat interchangeable with Cam in that offense.

So you do agree that it's strange that Kaep has been benched this season?

It's not strange when you consider who is running the 49ers. This is an owner who pinched pennies in negotiations with one of the best coaches in the world, and ultimately lost him because of it. When that happened, the 49ers transformed from a team players took pay-cuts to play for in order to have a chance at a ring into a sinking ship that All Pros leaped off. As everybody was abandoning ship, this same owner thought it would be a good idea to name a guy Head Coach who wouldn't even be hired as a coordinator anywhere else. Rather than choosing someone with credibility, he opted for someone he could manipulate.

...now that the wheels are coming off, it's obviously the starting QBs fault, so it makes perfect sense to bench him screwing up both his confidence and his trade value in the process. York traded Harbaugh/Kaepernick for Tomsula/Gabbert.

[Robceltsfan]

Do you think if they switched teams, Kaep would still be benched?

I do think that Cam has way more confidence. Even when the Panthers were losing, Cam seemed to still enjoy playing football. Kaep has been a cocky prick most of his NFL career. Now that he's losing, he looks like a picked on 3rd grader.

Kaep would be doing just fine with that Carolina team. He may not have them undefeated, but he's somewhat interchangeable with Cam in that offense.

So you do agree that it's strange that Kaep has been benched this season?

No.

Again, winning is the end-all/be-all. The QB either gets the glory or the blame.

[rtiff68]

Kaep would be doing just fine with that Carolina team. He may not have them undefeated, but he's somewhat interchangeable with Cam in that offense.

So you do agree that it's strange that Kaep has been benched this season?

No.

Again, winning is the end-all/be-all. The QB either gets the glory or the blame.

Did you read my post earlier in this thread? How much blame did Cam get last season for a 7-8-1 record in a crap division and poor statistics? How much blame have Wilson and Luck gotten this year?

QB is the highest profile position and definitely a magnet for praise/blame, but the way Kaepernick was treated is completely different from the players above.

[Robceltsfan]

So you do agree that it's strange that Kaep has been benched this season?

No.

Again, winning is the end-all/be-all. The QB either gets the glory or the blame.

Did you read my post earlier in this thread? How much blame did Cam get last season for a 7-8-1 record in a crap division and poor statistics? How much blame have Wilson and Luck gotten this year?

QB is the highest profile position and definitely a magnet for praise/blame, but the way Kaepernick was treated is completely different from the players above.

Cam made the playoffs.......Kaep is on a 3-8 team. Cam went 12-4 the prior year.

I'm not saying Kaep is being treated fairly, but the comparison isn't completely there right now. Cam has outperformed Kaep where it counts this year (scoring and winning). That's all that matters in the NFL when it comes to keeping your job.

[rtiff68]

No.

Again, winning is the end-all/be-all. The QB either gets the glory or the blame.

Did you read my post earlier in this thread? How much blame did Cam get last season for a 7-8-1 record in a crap division and poor statistics? How much blame have Wilson and Luck gotten this year?

QB is the highest profile position and definitely a magnet for praise/blame, but the way Kaepernick was treated is completely different from the players above.

Cam made the playoffs.......Kaep is on a 3-8 team. Cam went 12-4 the prior year.

I'm not saying Kaep is being treated fairly, but the comparison isn't completely there right now. Cam has outperformed Kaep where it counts this year (scoring and winning). That's all that matters in the NFL when it comes to keeping your job.

Interestingly enough, do you know who else was 3-8?

The Carolina Panthers through their first 11 games last year, with Newton having the worst season of his career. There was never any talk of benching him.