This was ruled a clean steal by Lebron. Ref was right on top of it.

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lol

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Lebron destroyed Brook's soft ass. Lebron gets hacked harder on the other end with no call so it evens out.

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Someone needs to remind that ref that we are currently playing in the "cream puff" era where every actual foul gets called and hundreds of "fouls" that never would have been called 20 years ago get called every game.

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Someone needs to remind that ref that we are currently playing in the "cream puff" era where every actual foul gets called and hundreds of "fouls" that never would have been called 20 years ago get called every game.

That doesn't apply to the LeManufactured one....that play is the other way around....the refs are sporting headsets and camping in font of a monitor checking to see if they can justify a flagrant.

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Lebron destroyed Brook's soft ass. Lebron gets hacked harder on the other end with no call so it evens.

Link...?

[LeBronMonsterDunk]

Brooks got BTFO

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Lebron has made a career getting away with that bullshit.

On BOTH ends.

[rtiff68]

We all know that superstars tend to get the benefit of the doubt more often than not when it comes to the whistles.

After an MVP and a championship, I have noticed a significant difference in how refs treat Curry. I don't have hard data in front of me, so feel free to take this with a grain of salt, but the ole' eyeball test has definitely told me that Curry has been getting far more respect and/or favorable calls than in year's past.

[rtiff68]

We all know that superstars tend to get the benefit of the doubt more often than not when it comes to the whistles.

After an MVP and a championship, I have noticed a significant difference in how refs treat Curry. I don't have hard data in front of me, so feel free to take this with a grain of salt, but the ole' eyeball test has definitely told me that Curry has been getting far more respect and/or favorable calls than in year's past.

Warriors would be 16-2 if not for those bs calls/non-calls against the Nets and raptors, but it is what it is.

Yeah, we already had this discussion. Kobe would have 4 rings if it wasn't for one of the most ridiculously officiated playoff games in NBA history.

Ho hum.

[zombiesonics]

We all know that superstars tend to get the benefit of the doubt more often than not when it comes to the whistles.

After an MVP and a championship, I have noticed a significant difference in how refs treat Curry. I don't have hard data in front of me, so feel free to take this with a grain of salt, but the ole' eyeball test has definitely told me that Curry has been getting far more respect and/or favorable calls than in year's past.

Warriors would be 16-2 if not for those bs calls/non-calls against the Nets and raptors, but it is what it is.

Yeah, we already had this discussion. Kobe would have 3 rings if it wasn't for several of the most ridiculously officiated playoff games in NBA history.

Ho hum.

[rtiff68]

Warriors would be 16-2 if not for those bs calls/non-calls against the Nets and raptors, but it is what it is.

Yeah, we already had this discussion. Kobe would have 4 rings if it wasn't for one of the most ridiculously officiated playoff games in NBA history.

Ho hum.

Were you one of the posters that spent years on ESPN crying about those alleged bad calls? It'll be karma if you have to endure the same shit about your warriors going forward. It'll finally click for you that a fair game does not mean a game in which both teams take an equal amount of free throws. It won't click for your teams haters though.

No, I wasn't. I generally don't whine about the officials (also, I don't like the Kings at all, so you wouldn't eve catch me campaigning for them). Typically, the only time I bring up officiating is to point out someone else's hypocrisy...

...like in this thread.

[Thedictator]

Totally clean

[rtiff68]

Warriors would be 16-2 if not for those bs calls/non-calls against the Nets and raptors, but it is what it is.

Yeah, we already had this discussion. Kobe would have 4 rings if it wasn't for one of the most ridiculously officiated playoff games in NBA history.

Ho hum.

Were you one of the posters that spent years on ESPN crying about those alleged bad calls in 2002? It'll be karma if you have to endure the same shit about your warriors going forward. It'll finally click for you that a fair game does not mean a game in which both teams take an equal amount of free throws. It won't click for your teams haters though. Enjoy.

...oh, and I didn't only bring up the FT disparity. I also mentioned that the Warriors shot over 50% from the field, registered 30+ assists, and brought up what their record has been for the past year at home...in addition to shooting 11 fewer FTs.

...but, of course, your opinion was that a single bad call trumps all of that. Thanks for playing.

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[rtiff68]

Were you one of the posters that spent years on ESPN crying about those alleged bad calls in 2002? It'll be karma if you have to endure the same shit about your warriors going forward. It'll finally click for you that a fair game does not mean a game in which both teams take an equal amount of free throws. It won't click for your teams haters though. Enjoy.

...oh, and I didn't only bring up the FT disparity. I also mentioned that the Warriors shot over 50% from the field, registered 30+ assists, and brought up what their record has been for the past year at home...in addition to shooting 11 fewer FTs.

...but, of course, your opinion that a single bad call trumps all of that. Thanks for playing.

Two game deciding bad calls in two consecutive games. Past record doesn't matter. Warriors are a team with no coach with a giant bulls eye on them. Two teams stepped up to be the streak busters. They played all out, and got the victories, only to have the refs rip it away from them because the streak is a marketable storyline.

I'm rooting for your warriors, and for steph, but I'm also an unbiased realist.

You're not being a realist in this discussion Madnessss, you're simply being stubborn.

Based upon all of the facts we have at our disposal, no realist would argue that the Warriors were more aided by the officials in the TOR and BRK games than the Lakers were in Game 6 against the Kings.

Personally, I say the hell with all of that shit. If you don't want a call or calls to cost you the game, then don't put yourself in a position to lose on a single call (as in, don't let the best team in the league punish fuck your defense all game on their home floor where they've been unbeatable). The results are all that matter: Kobe has 5 rings, the Warriors are 18-0.

You decided to bring officiating into this by claiming that "w/o the refs, GS would be 16-2." Then, when I brought up the Kobe example, you deflected like TDK by asking me if I was a "whiner back on ESPN about bad calls."

You're not an unbiased realist, you're a guy with an agenda who won't concede that he's wrong no matter how much evidence is thrust in front of him.

[kobeunderbite]

Kobe has been screwed more often than not in the postseason, particularly against Dallas and OKC, so even if you want to pretend the Lakers were gifted g6 (false), if you remove refs from the equation Kobe still has 5 rings, maybe 6, and GSW has no streak.

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Two game deciding bad calls in two consecutive games. Past record doesn't matter. Warriors are a team with no coach with a giant bulls eye on them. Two teams stepped up to be the streak busters. They played all out, and got the victories, only to have the refs rip it away from them because the streak is a marketable storyline.

I'm rooting for your warriors, and for steph, but I'm also an unbiased realist.

You're not being a realist in this discussion Madnessss, you're simply being stubborn.

Based upon all of the facts we have at our disposal, no realist would argue that the Warriors were more aided by the officials in the TOR and BRK games than the Lakers were in Game 6 against the Kings.

Personally, I say the hell with all of that shit. If you don't want a call or calls to cost you the game, then don't put yourself in a position to lose on a single call (as in, don't let the best team in the league punish fuck your defense all game on their home floor where they've been unbeatable). The results are all that matter: Kobe has 5 rings, the Warriors are 18-0.

You decided to bring officiating into this by claiming that "w/o the refs, GS would be 16-2." Then, when I brought up the Kobe example, you deflected like TDK by asking me if I was a "whiner back on ESPN about bad calls."

You're not an unbiased realist, you're a guy with an agenda who won't concede that he's wrong no matter how much evidence is thrust in front of him.

I'm not deflecting. You're bringing up a playoff series from 13 years ago, and not citing any examples of bad calls. In the previous iteration of this debate, you claimed that the lakers were aided by refs as evidenced by the free throw disparity. i destroyed that argument.

I'm bringing up specific bad calls. Both happened in the waning moments of a close game, when bad calls are far more impactful than at any other time in a game. You don't argue that they weren't bad calls. You simply bring up lakers 2002. And free throw disparity again.....which simply is the most bottom of the barrel argument there is.

Warriors are 16-2. Last year they started 21-2. Last year was more impressive.....but they are still the best in the NBA so far, albeit by not a huge margin.

Where in God's name did you "destroy" any argument? I cited facts, you cited your opinion on two specific calls in two different basketball games.

Your argument is/was this: your opinion on a single call in a 48 minute basketball game trumps absolutely everything else, including FT disparity, how both teams performed statistically, the subjective opinion of everyone/anyone else on every other call in those games, etc.

In short, your argument was a fucking joke. This isn't personal man-- I think you're a good poster, and I especially like it when you choose to talk sports. That said, you're being an enormous hypocrite here. For example, why does it matter at all that the game was 13 years ago, especially when people on this board (including yourself) discuss Kobe and his legacy all of the time? You won't acknowledge that the refs had anything to do with one of Kobe's rings, yet you claim that the refs are the reason GS is 16-2.

Again, you're not an unbiased realist, you're just stubborn.

We can pick this up later if you want. I'm going to watch my Niners get smashed...