450 or 348... which is the "larger" number?

[thedangerouskitchen]

I'm asking because we still hear criticism about the 90's (allegedly) being "watered down" YET there were 29 teams back then and 12-man rosters... or 348 players in the NBA vs. 30 teams and 15 man rosters (ie; 450 players) today.

In other words there's 102 more players in the league today but only one (1) additional team added.. so how is today's NBA not even more 'watered down' than the 90's supposedly were?

Inquiring minds want to know...

Anyone? Anyone?



Bueller?? Bueller???

[Bush4Ever.]

It might have something to do with the NBA having 125 international players in 2024, and 23 international players in 1992, and having an international presence approximately 812x the international presence of the 1990s.

[thedangerouskitchen]

It might have something to do with the NBA having 125 international players in 2024, and 23 international players in 1992, and having an international presence approximately 812x the international presence of the 1990s.

International players were vastly inferior to NBA players in the 90's.. so those expansion teams (in the 90s) were made up of current NBA players (not guys from inferior leagues overseas, or kids coming out of High School, the way it is in the NBA today).

In fact the average NBA player drafted in the 80's/90's was VASTLY SUPERIOR to the average player drafted into the NBA today because back then Rookies had 3-4 years of College experience to learn fundamentals, discipline, hone their skills, etc. Today you're getting 18 and 19 year olds who can't do shit except dribble fancy.

So yeah, with an additional 102 players and only one (1) extra team, it's clearly today's NBA that's watered down... and we can actually see that with the teams in the league; 90% either 'bad to good', and 10% falling into the 'very good' category using the same "standard for greatness" that we used throughout the history of the league.

[Bush4Ever.]

International players were vastly inferior to NBA players in the 90's

No shit?

It's almost like when the talent POOL of players expands by stupefying degrees, you can add more players without decreasing quality compared to earlier eras. The expansion of the 90s added a bunch of new teams, with maybe 1-2 percent expansion of talent pool.

Wow! What a brain-buster!

Note: If expansion today (relative to talent pool) expanded to a degree to match the *quality* of teams in the 1990s, there would be approximately 250 teams today. Obviously that's not the case.

[_Vcsgrizzfan_]

Guys 1-5 on a roster in general are superior to the 90s. By a good margin. BUT, guys 6-12 on today's roster are vastly superior on average to guys 6-12 in the 1990s. It isn't even in the same area code.

[kobeunderbite]

You could be a successful NBA player in the 1990's without even possessing baseline basketball skills

[Bush4Ever.]

You could be a successful NBA player in the 1990's without even possessing baseline basketball skills

Anthony Mason made an all-star team and was actually, for a brief period of time, considered the prototypical "point forward".

I'm not even kidding.

[Robceltsfan]

You could be a successful NBA player in the 1990's without even possessing baseline basketball skills

That guy made an ALL-NBA team in the 90's. He wouldn't even start in today's NBA.

[thedangerouskitchen]

International players were vastly inferior to NBA players in the 90's

No shit?

It's almost like when the talent POOL of players expands by stupefying degrees, you can add more players without decreasing quality compared to earlier eras. The expansion of the 90s added a bunch of new teams, with maybe 1-2 percent expansion of talent pool.

Wow! What a brain-buster!

Note: If expansion today (relative to talent pool) expanded to a degree to match the *quality* of teams in the 1990s, there would be approximately 250 teams today. Obviously that's not the case.

More babbling and rambling with zero (0) fact to back up the drivel.

You're being exposed more and more as a fraud every day, bubski.

PS: Teams today are actually allowed up to 18 players on the roster.

18 x 30 teams = a whopping 540 players, the majority who come straight to the NBA from High School (lolol) or maybe 1 year of college, and would get murdered in an All Rookie game vs. 80''s/90's players entering the league with 3-4 years of College experience under their belts.

Facts.

Next...

[Bush4Ever.]

and would get murdered in an All Rookie game vs. 80''s/90's players entering the league with 3-4 years of College experience under their belts.

Facts.

Next...

"I'm 50 years old, and still don't know what a fact is."

-TDK

lol

[Titan18]

Mason was a great player. Essentially the same skillset as Giannis but he actually played during a time where other teams defended. If he played in today’s no defense open court shoot around style games he’d be dropping 30 a night with ease.

[kobeunderbite]

Mason was a great player. Essentially the same skillset as Giannis but he actually played during a time where other teams defended. If he played in today’s no defense open court shoot around style games he’d be dropping 30 a night with ease.

Mason was George Floyd but with slightly more height and better cardio

[_Vcsgrizzfan_]

International players were vastly inferior to NBA players in the 90's

No shit?

It's almost like when the talent POOL of players expands by stupefying degrees, you can add more players without decreasing quality compared to earlier eras. The expansion of the 90s added a bunch of new teams, with maybe 1-2 percent expansion of talent pool.

Wow! What a brain-buster!

Note: If expansion today (relative to talent pool) expanded to a degree to match the *quality* of teams in the 1990s, there would be approximately 250 teams today. Obviously that's not the case.

More babbling and rambling with zero (0) fact to back up the drivel.

You're being exposed more and more as a fraud every day, bubski.

PS: Teams today are actually allowed up to 18 players on the roster.

18 x 30 teams = a whopping 540 players, the majority who come straight to the NBA from High School (lolol) or maybe 1 year of college, and would get murdered in an All Rookie game vs. 80''s/90's players entering the league with 3-4 years of College experience under their belts.

Facts.

Next...

As usual, you are getting clocked and have no idea. Who cares what the size of the roster is, in general terms at least.

What you really care about, are the quality of your starters, and maybe up to the next 5 players on the roster who will see the floor for MEANINGFUL minute.

As far as that goes, today's NBA, like I pointed out already, makes the 90s look like the 90s makes the 70s look like (I use the 70s to include the dilution of the ABA). 1-5 are significantly superior, and the discrepancy gets larger from 6-10.

That is what matters.

[lettherebehouse]

Mason was a great player. Essentially the same skillset as Giannis but he actually played during a time where other teams defended. If he played in today’s no defense open court shoot around style games he’d be dropping 30 a night with ease.

Mason was George Floyd but with slightly more height and better cardio

Underrated post

[kobeunderbite]

Mason was a great player. Essentially the same skillset as Giannis but he actually played during a time where other teams defended. If he played in today’s no defense open court shoot around style games he’d be dropping 30 a night with ease.

Mason was George Floyd but with slightly more height and better cardio

Underrated post

Thanks brah

[Da Stars.]

International players are making the NBA, NHL and MLB all better leagues today than they were 30 years ago.

Enjoy, not condemn. Now Stars, listen to your last post.