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Sudanese Sensation wrote: Wed Jan 03, 2024 1:35 pm
elartman1973 wrote: Wed Jan 03, 2024 1:32 pm
Sudanese Sensation wrote: Wed Jan 03, 2024 1:29 pm

What if Paolo and Franz are Magic lifers?
They are
Bush needs to account for the possibility/probability that the core of Jalen, Franz, and Paolo will be the cornerstone of the Magic for years.
Thats the plan...it's pretty obvious
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elartman1973 wrote: Wed Jan 03, 2024 1:37 pm
Sudanese Sensation wrote: Wed Jan 03, 2024 1:35 pm
elartman1973 wrote: Wed Jan 03, 2024 1:32 pm

They are
Bush needs to account for the possibility/probability that the core of Jalen, Franz, and Paolo will be the cornerstone of the Magic for years.
Thats the plan...it's pretty obvious
That core isn't good enough to win a banner. Not in today's NBA with a multitude of stacked teams.
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elartman1973 wrote: Wed Jan 03, 2024 1:26 pm
kobeunderbite wrote: Wed Jan 03, 2024 1:17 pm
elartman1973 wrote: Wed Jan 03, 2024 12:54 pm Magic are ahead of schedule. Imagine the idiots acting like they are supposed to be elite contenders after winning 34 games last season

What the fuck is wrong with you OBSESSED losers?

Are you that triggered that I was right all along?
The best players are still years away from their primes. Not 1 or 2 or even 3 years but more like 5 or 6 .it's not a one year window dumbfucks. They will be better every season and on pace for 50+ as is
Grow up.
Theres many teams you can be bashing this season. The magic are definitely not among them.
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If they are 'ahead of schedule,' how many wins were they then scheduled for this season, after 34 last season?
More than the lakers
Way to go out on a limb with that prediction, fatso!
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kobeunderbite wrote: Wed Jan 03, 2024 2:03 pm
elartman1973 wrote: Wed Jan 03, 2024 1:26 pm
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If they are 'ahead of schedule,' how many wins were they then scheduled for this season, after 34 last season?
More than the lakers
Way to go out on a limb with that prediction, fatso!
How many all stars hall of famers world's greatest player and franchise on the lakers?
How many on the magic?

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vcsgrizzfan wrote: Wed Jan 03, 2024 2:00 pm
elartman1973 wrote: Wed Jan 03, 2024 1:37 pm
Sudanese Sensation wrote: Wed Jan 03, 2024 1:35 pm

Bush needs to account for the possibility/probability that the core of Jalen, Franz, and Paolo will be the cornerstone of the Magic for years.
Thats the plan...it's pretty obvious
That core isn't good enough to win a banner. Not in today's NBA with a multitude of stacked teams.
Not this year. They are years away from their primes, guy.
And have the most money in the NBA to spend in the offseason.
Keep up.
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Here's hoping they get off the schneid with a win over the 🤴s tonight.
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Be healthy...thats it literally
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elartman1973 wrote: Thu Jan 04, 2024 5:59 am Be healthy...thats it literally

Do you think they will make a push after the All Star game?
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What teams in the league right now are 100% healthy?
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vcsgrizzfan wrote: Wed Jan 03, 2024 2:00 pm
elartman1973 wrote: Wed Jan 03, 2024 1:37 pm
Sudanese Sensation wrote: Wed Jan 03, 2024 1:35 pm

Bush needs to account for the possibility/probability that the core of Jalen, Franz, and Paolo will be the cornerstone of the Magic for years.
Thats the plan...it's pretty obvious
That core isn't good enough to win a banner. Not in today's NBA with a multitude of stacked teams.
Yet you were all over the boards stroking Joker's stick for leading Denver to a Championship despite playing with (alleged) lackluster talent.

:L
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thedangerouskitchen wrote: Thu Jan 04, 2024 1:54 pm
vcsgrizzfan wrote: Wed Jan 03, 2024 2:00 pm
elartman1973 wrote: Wed Jan 03, 2024 1:37 pm

Thats the plan...it's pretty obvious
That core isn't good enough to win a banner. Not in today's NBA with a multitude of stacked teams.
Yet you were all over the boards stroking Joker's stick for leading Denver to a Championship despite playing with (alleged) lackluster talent.

:L
The Joker needs talent around him. Jamaal Murray is an an All-Star. However he is so good that you don't need super high level talent all around him. In any case Paolo, Franz, or Jalen aren't in the Joker's area code.
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elartman1973 wrote: Thu Jan 04, 2024 5:59 am Be healthy...thats it literally
STFU fatso and stop acting like the Magic's roster is full of PROVEN all star level talent and CONSISTENTLY productive role-players. They're not... not even close. In fact Paolo and Franz are the only two guys who have actually performed at a level where you could say with a fair amount of confidence that they're capable of being cornerstones on a Championship team. The rest of the roster is full of complete unknowns with respect to what they "could" or "might" develop into.

Put down the bong or the blunt and come back to reality, fool.

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You take leaps from "solid" to "great" on the back of superstars.

The Magic have no superstars, but have a healthy amount of C+ to B level talent.

Historically, that's almost always been associated with a ceiling that's capped way below the championship level.

And of course, anyone who develops into a superstar is going to GTFO at the first opportunity. The Magic will have to develop a superstar talent in a non-contract year to actually get that value.
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Bush4Ever. wrote: Thu Jan 04, 2024 2:03 pm You take leaps from "solid" to "great" on the back of superstars.

The Magic have no superstars, but have a healthy amount of C+ to B level talent.

Historically, that's almost always been associated with a ceiling that's capped way below the championship level.


Any thoughts on fatty's assertion that the Magic have "more money to spend" than any other team this summer, whatever he believes that to mean?

Which superstars do you predict Orlando will sign?
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Sudanese Sensation wrote: Thu Jan 04, 2024 1:59 pm
thedangerouskitchen wrote: Thu Jan 04, 2024 1:54 pm
vcsgrizzfan wrote: Wed Jan 03, 2024 2:00 pm

That core isn't good enough to win a banner. Not in today's NBA with a multitude of stacked teams.
Yet you were all over the boards stroking Joker's stick for leading Denver to a Championship despite playing with (alleged) lackluster talent.

:L
The Joker needs talent around him. Jamaal Murray is an an All-Star. However he is so good that you don't need super high level talent all around him. In any case Paolo, Franz, or Jalen aren't in the Joker's area code.
Jokic is in his 9th season though... Paolo, Franz and Jalen haven't hit their peak yet (or so you'd have to believe that, since they're still so young).

Regardless, Denver winning last year just throws grizz' statement out the window... as you do not need a stacked team to win a Championship in this era. That was my point. The 2022 Warriors weren't really "stacked" either, nor the 2021 Bucks.
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kobeunderbite wrote: Thu Jan 04, 2024 2:04 pm
Any thoughts on fatty's assertion that the Magic have "more money to spend" than any other team this summer, whatever he believes that to mean?

Which superstars do you predict Orlando will sign?
It's basically what I call a "multiply by zero" situation.

No matter how much money can be spent, it's rendered irrelevant because it's ran through the requirement of having to live in Orlando for a number of years.

10 times 0 = 0.
10,000 times 0 is still 0.

Framed another way and perhaps more relevant to Artman himself, a 500 pound man who can spend 2,500 dollars in a whorehouse is going to get much less attention than a 180 pound stud who only has 2,000 dollars.
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Bush4Ever. wrote: Thu Jan 04, 2024 2:08 pm
kobeunderbite wrote: Thu Jan 04, 2024 2:04 pm
Any thoughts on fatty's assertion that the Magic have "more money to spend" than any other team this summer, whatever he believes that to mean?

Which superstars do you predict Orlando will sign?
It's basically what I call a "multiply by zero" situation.

No matter how much money can be spent, it's rendered irrelevant because it's ran through the requirement of having to live in Orlando for a number of years.

10 times 0 = 0.
10,000 times 0 is still 0.

Framed another way and perhaps more relevant to Artman himself, a 500 pound man who can spend 2,500 dollars in a whorehouse is going to get much less attention than a 180 pound stud who only has 2,000 dollars.

Thanks for the thorough explanation. I suppose that would cover why the Magic have not signed a star free-agent in over 20 years.
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kobeunderbite wrote: Thu Jan 04, 2024 2:15 pm
Bush4Ever. wrote: Thu Jan 04, 2024 2:08 pm
kobeunderbite wrote: Thu Jan 04, 2024 2:04 pm
Any thoughts on fatty's assertion that the Magic have "more money to spend" than any other team this summer, whatever he believes that to mean?

Which superstars do you predict Orlando will sign?
It's basically what I call a "multiply by zero" situation.

No matter how much money can be spent, it's rendered irrelevant because it's ran through the requirement of having to live in Orlando for a number of years.

10 times 0 = 0.
10,000 times 0 is still 0.

Framed another way and perhaps more relevant to Artman himself, a 500 pound man who can spend 2,500 dollars in a whorehouse is going to get much less attention than a 180 pound stud who only has 2,000 dollars.

Thanks for the thorough explanation. I suppose that would cover why the Magic have not signed a star free-agent in over 20 years.
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They have a chance to turn things around against the Nuggets.
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